NationStates

War has begun!
Which side will you join?
There are two 'sides': the communist, Eastern Union or the capitalist, Democratic Alliance.
Back Story/History:
May 2015- Shallia invades the mostly uninhabited land of Atecista.The land is mostly filled with small tribes.
August 2015- Shallian soldiers begin executing tribesmen. The democratic west grows angry with this.
October 2015- After attempts to stop the conflict, the west declares war on Shallia and it's communist allies.

Rules:
Stay in character
First post should be your 'side' and your military numbers
Please don't go overboard with military numbers
No Nukes
It is not mandatory but we request you use ns tracker to get correct military numbers to make it as real as possible.

I have an army of 40,000 soldiers. I support the communist side. But I do not want to resort to violence unless neccesary.

ISAF will remain neutral.

OOC: For a number on my military check the link within my spoiler in the signature.

I have 125,000 Strag Military Personal I am willing to use to help the Democratic Alliance. President Loken as asked that no violence break out and to use politics to solve the problem but he has reassured if war is to break out, Strag will side with the Democratic Alliance.

I have an army of 20,000 Arvenian military personal and I join the Democratic Alliance, because I'm against communism.

The capitalist Bloc ofcourse

Ravenstvo is sided with the Communists, we have 20,000 military personnel active and 50,000 untrained and in reserve. Citizens of Ravenstvo have also noted that they would "fight for the glory of Communism," and threatening to torture Capitalists.

President Loken has declared any torturing of anyone during this conflict will result in hostile actions against whomever has commited the crime.

Shallia has aligned themselves with the communists.
We have an infantry of 10,010 and a Navy of 1,440 Destroyers and 100 Aircraft Carriers
We have declared that any attempt to stamp out communism is hostile.

one question I'd like to ask - is; how do you calculate the military numbers?

OOC: Interesting, wouldn't hurt to get some thread guidance and read the guides towards the top, oh and stop by the RP think tank as well. But this thread lacks details, back stories, why your country declared war on another nation, RL nations don't declare war without no reason.

Herargon wrote:one question I'd like to ask - is; how do you calculate the military numbers?

A good rule of thumb is 10% of your total population, a lot of nations either go to NS tracker or use only 7 or 4% of their total population.

Well, okay then: my military according to this website http://nstracker.web44.net/ is this big:

2,556,800 soldiers, of from which 767,040 are active.

My military budget is 32% and 0,096% (almost 0,1% of my population) consists of soldiers. That's not pretty much, but yeah, everything is relative.

I'm neutral, since there is no ''fascist'' side.

50,000 soldiers, ready to fight for the Democratic Alliance.

Herargon wrote:Well, okay then: my military according to this website http://nstracker.web44.net/ is this big:

2,556,800 soldiers, of from which 767,040 are active.

My military budget is 32% and 0,096% (almost 0,1% of my population) consists of soldiers. That's not pretty much, but yeah, everything is relative.

I'm neutral, since there is no ''fascist'' side.

The communists are sort of fascist. I know traditionally fascist hate communists but that is generally the Marxist form. The communist side are a new form called Vorchevism, which has views closely linked to fascist as well as communist.

Rabotnik soldiers set up base near Atecista. Rabotnik soldiers distribute food and supplies to Atecistans.

President Loken has declared Shallia a menace and if anyone is caught interacting with them, Strag will cut off all communication with that nation. President Loken has stated " Shallia's past is unacceptable for how they murdered tribes. It is an abomination that even that nation still stands to this day! The West will prevail victorious! "

Shallia's Premier, Orlek Vorchev, has stated in a recent interview that Strag shall die along with the other worthless capitalists.

In reply to the Rabotnik forces giving aid to Atecista, Shallia has sent 2 Marine companies to push through and drive away the Rabotniks

With 134,904,417 soldiers registered, The P.R. of Chernarovia is ready to join war with the communist powers.

50,000 solders to support communism. Any nation that is against it is a enemy to North Korea89.

Adampia wrote:

Herargon wrote:one question I'd like to ask - is; how do you calculate the military numbers?

A good rule of thumb is 10% of your total population, a lot of nations either go to NS tracker or use only 7 or 4% of their total population.

Some friendly advice... Not exactly.

On NS, there are two trains of thought on how numbers are generally created in regards to even semi realism. The first method, is generally known as the 5% rule. In a nutshell, a nation can have up to 5% of it's total population in it's military before it starts to wreck it's economy and have some serious negative impacts. The flip side however, is that the higher the % in your military, the worse trained and worse equipped they are as you will have less money per person to spend on to train and equip them.

So for example, a nation with <1% in it's military would be armed roughly equivalent to say a first world standard. Where as in comparison 5% is considered North Korean Standard.. and >5% is pretty much African/Somalia militia standard, with zero training and armed with an rifle that has seen better days.

The second method, as previously mentioned, is using a tracker of sorts. While generally accepted here on NS, some players don't like using trackers for military numbers as they can be manually manipulated on the parent sites and have been abused in the past by number wankers looking purely to "win" at NS.

Myself, I personally use a combination of the two. I use a tracker to number crunch all my economic numbers, then use <1% of my nations RP population for military numbers. I find this method works for me rather well here on NS.

Hope this helps, and if you lads have any further questions, more then happy to help or send up the bat signal for a mentor to take a peek in.

Ghost Ops wrote:

Adampia wrote:A good rule of thumb is 10% of your total population, a lot of nations either go to NS tracker or use only 7 or 4% of their total population.

Some friendly advice... Not exactly.

On NS, there are two trains of thought on how numbers are generally created in regards to even semi realism. The first method, is generally known as the 5% rule. In a nutshell, a nation can have up to 5% of it's total population in it's military before it starts to wreck it's economy and have some serious negative impacts. The flip side however, is that the higher the % in your military, the worse trained and worse equipped they are as you will have less money per person to spend on to train and equip them.

So for example, a nation with <1% in it's military would be armed roughly equivalent to say a first world standard. Where as in comparison 5% is considered North Korean Standard.. and >5% is pretty much African/Somalia militia standard, with zero training and armed with an rifle that has seen better days.

The second method, as previously mentioned, is using a tracker of sorts. While generally accepted here on NS, some players don't like using trackers for military numbers as they can be manually manipulated on the parent sites and have been abused in the past by number wankers looking purely to "win" at NS.

Myself, I personally use a combination of the two. I use a tracker to number crunch all my economic numbers, then use <1% of my nations RP population for military numbers. I find this method works for me rather well here on NS.

Hope this helps, and if you lads have any further questions, more then happy to help or send up the bat signal for a mentor to take a peek in.

It's pretty fun watching them though. I am wait to see who pulls the I nuked you card.

Due to extreme losses of oil Shallian Premier Orlek Vorchev has pulled out of the war stating: "We cannot fight without oil. Once our supplies are replenished we will successfully invade Atecista and crush the west."

The total military might of Alsheb currently is 358,000, of which 107,400 are currently active, and the rest in reserve.

It goes without saying the Revolutionary Arab Armed Forces of Alsheb stand ready to defend Communism at all times.