The 4th Thraice Convention [Closed]

[Vrnallia]

(OOC: Arpadesia better have agreed to their nation being completely terminated)
The First Minister raises objections to the plans to expand Agiptiota and Inonania: "The vast territory to the west of Inonania is already owned, I'm sure, and we should give the land of (former) Arpadesia to Agiptiota with so little consideration. It should be divided with western neighbours as well."

[Agiptiota]

Pachomius comments that north western Pandyssia is ruled by one man and his camel, who are between them the entire living population of the area.

[Inonania]

Poultry Pete likewise comments on how Arpadesia's former chief secretary of state, (the closest Arpadesia had to a leader) once said that if some horrific event were to somehow destroy the Arpadesian population, the lands should be, at the least, loaned to its neighbours of Agiptiota and Inonania, since the 'Western Neighbours' of Arpadesia were constantly hounding for the lands of the Arpads, until they were ravaged by plague and disease until only two remained, a legless man and a camel, who then rode off into the sunset together, only to be hit with a stray lightning bolt from heaven and destroyed.
Upon realising that he was rambling a little, the chicken reinforces the fact that A) the Arpadesian population had agreed that Inonania and Agiptiota would share in their lands should this event occur and B) The Western Neighbours do not exist.

[Dolorem]

Firslty, regarding Dragutinusan, a referendum would be desirable. The majority of the populace have a Doloremi heritage, due to Dolorem owning the land before the Great War. As well, the majority of citizens there speak Doloremi as either their primary or secondary language.

Next, Dolorem must object to transferral of control of the Kolzos canal to an independant party. The Asuran trade league as a delegation have maintained a neutral and efficient control of the canal. 90% of the exports of coal in Ljudmil-Dolorem relies on the canal for easy access to Asura. Dolorem fears that a new delegation in control of the canal will not be neutral in some matters, leading to a potential industry crash in Ljudmil, or for the new delegation to be inefficient, potentially harming the economy. Whilst Dolorem no longer controls Ljudmil as a colony, it is still within our best interest to ensure their economic well being.

[Agiptiota]

The Agiptiote Delegation maintains that it would like for Kolzos to leave Asuran hands. How can it be that Asura is more capable, and neutral with a greater certainty than a truly international entity? And surely, of the supra-national entities that exist, surely it would make geographic sense for the canal to be under Pandyssian or Levantine control?

[Vrnallia]

Concerning western expansion of the attendant Pandyssian nations and Dragutinusan, the First Minister has no more concerns.
As for the Kolzos canal region, he suggests that control be managed jointly by the Pandyssian and Levantine populations in that area.

[Agiptiota]

Agiptiota accepts the suggestion of joint control of the canal.

[Midrasia]

Control of the Kolzos canal, as it is known in Agiptiota is of the utmost importance to the Asuran Trade and Shipping Company in order to provide a neutral flowing passage of trade through the region. Nationalizing the canal would mean dissolving the company, which is controlled by a majority of shareholders throughout the region and the world. As of now we are unwilling to negotiate the transition of the canal to Agiptiota, however the original offer of citizenship rights for citizens living within the canal region remain.
Regarding Dragutinusan, if Delsola is co-operative in performing a plebiscite within the region, then it shall go ahead.
As for the situation of Arpadesia,i believe it is in both the Confederation and the Federal Unions interest to hear from the Arpadesian leadership before the country is negotiated with. Regarding the countries partition, Midrasia would be unable to agree to any measures, besides redrawing Agiptiotas western border to include territory inhabited by Agiptiotan majorities. In order to maintain the status-quo of North Pandyssia, a free independent Arpadesia must remain on the map. Any attempt by Inonanian or Agiptiotan authorities to aid rebels or occupy Arpadesian territory will be met with retaliation by Asuran authorities.

[Agiptiota]

From the Agiptiote understanding, there is no living Arpadesian leadership to consent to the changing of hands of land.

[Isolatonia]

Control of the Kolzos canal, as it is known in Agiptiota is of the utmost importance to the Asuran Trade and Shipping Company in order to provide a neutral flowing passage of trade through the region. Nationalizing the canal would mean dissolving the company, which is controlled by a majority of shareholders throughout the region and the world. As of now we are unwilling to negotiate the transition of the canal to Agiptiota, however the original offer of citizenship rights for citizens living within the canal region remain.
Regarding Dragutinusan, if Delsola is co-operative in performing a plebiscite within the region, then it shall go ahead.
As for the situation of Arpadesia,i believe it is in both the Confederation and the Federal Unions interest to hear from the Arpadesian leadership before the country is negotiated with. Regarding the countries partition, Midrasia would be unable to agree to any measures, besides redrawing Agiptiotas western border to include territory inhabited by Agiptiotan majorities. In order to maintain the status-quo of North Pandyssia, a free independent Arpadesia must remain on the map. Any attempt by Inonanian or Agiptiotan authorities to aid rebels or occupy Arpadesian territory will be met with retaliation by Asuran authorities.

Isolatonia has invested heavily into the Kolzos canal and with the Financial Ministry for the Economy and Trade holding a significant number of shares in the Asuran Trade and Shipping Company, Isolatonia strongly supports the Midrasian notion to leave the Canal in the hands of the Company to further Asuran interests.

Isolatonia will always support freedom and self determination for all countries so to reaffirm Prime Minister de Rein's point, any breach of the peace will be met with force. Isolatonia hopes that the current conflict can be quickly and clenly resolved with minimum loss of life.

Regarding Dragutinusan, I firmly believe that a plebiscite should be carried out as the land did not historically belong to either Dolorem or Delsola so neither Nation has a claim in that respect.

[Vrnallia]

"Vrnallia strongly objects to continued Asuran control of the Kolzos Canal. We believe control should be a matter for the inhabitants of the area to decide."

[Midrasia]

"We remain clear on our decision wit the Canal, Midrasia, Dolorem and Isolatonia have made it clear that the canal will not be changing hands. However it is up to the Agiptiotan government whether to accept the citizenship terms or not. Any attempt to renegotiate will most likely be vetoed by a member of the opposition."
"As for the Arpadesian situation, i believe an Asuran task force should be sent into the region to secure peace, whilst we negotiate what to do. I believe it is in our best interest to secure a free and strong Arpadesia to increase the strength of the Confederation." The Prime minister stands to address the whole room. "Gentlemen, i believe our time for now is up, if you will join me in the hall, i believe it is time for today's meal. Afterwards we may look into the matter of officially forming the Pandyssian Confederation. Negotiations will recommence tomorrow, in the meantime, you are dismissed." The minister and his advisers pack their things and return to their rooms, to later re-emerge for the meal.

[Dolorem]

The Isolatonian delegation is incorrect regarding Dragutinisan. Although in the modern age it has been under Jopolonian control, this was only the case after the First World War, when Dragutinisan was ceded to Jopolis. Before then, Dragutinisan had a history in the early Doloremi empire, after being claimed from Phaedran territory.

[Isolatonia]

The Isolatonian delegation is incorrect regarding Dragutinisan. Although in the modern age it has been under Jopolonian control, this was only the case after the First World War, when Dragutinisan was ceded to Jopolis. Before then, Dragutinisan had a history in the early Doloremi empire, after being claimed from Phaedran territory.

Apologies. Our ignorance is due in part to the great many differing historical records throughout Asura. Isolatonia this calls for an establishment of a derivative history of the world to be developed

[Dolorem]

The Overlord, noting a disturbance outside the window silently stands and makes his way out to the hall, amidst all of the talk. He informs all of his honour guards to move to another part of the Palace.

With that done, the Overlord silently returns to his seat and sets himself down as if nothing had happened.

[Engortia]

A large commotion is heard outside, after a short silence a man bursts into the Thraice palace, adorned in many different pieces of military gear, covered in combat webbing and holding a smoking revolver, the man moves the delegate next to High Overlord Sollace before having a chair hastily brought over and seating himself.
After extinguishing his cigar in the same delegate's drink the man casually throws the revolver onto the table. "Don't let me stop you, carry on with... whatever was going on."

[Vrnallia]

"Can somebody please disarm the Engortian delegation?" interjects LJešmarad.

[Engortia]

"Don't worry, I unloaded it on the way in." Iosif slyly remarks.

[Dolorem]

The Overord, somewhat amused responds:

"Well, the gun is on the table... I don't see a problem."

[Agiptiota]

Pachomius, frustrated with a lack of progress returns to the Kolzos Canal debate "Midrasia, Dolorem and Isolatonia may have expressed a desire to retain the status quo, but Vrnalia and Agiptiota desire otherwise. It would be desirable for all nations to state their desires for the debate to conclude, and therefore a few nations still need to engage in the debate."

[Inonania]

Poultry Pete, after laying an egg on the table and realising that he is in fact a female, and therefore subsequently changing her name to Petunia, stands before the conference.
"This bickering is pointless. The plain fact of the matter is that the Canal is in Pandyssian territory, and should therefore be governed by a Pandyssian Union, or at the very least have joint ownership. Also, if the land that Inonania desires from the ruins of Arpadesia cannot be obtained due to vetoeing from other members of the Federal Union, then Inonania is perfectly happy to leave the Union altogether and establish colonies in the former state of Arpadesia."

[Engortia]

"Did that guy just drop a log on the table?"

[Dolorem]

Ultimately, there is an issue that we all have with Pandyssian control of the canal. Putting aside any altruistic farces nations may have put on here in regards to their intentions with the canal... money talks and that canal is worth a lot of money. Pandyssian control of the canal, honestly, could only be agreed upon, if a contribution was met that was equal to the worth of the canal, and it is unlikely for that to happen. As such, there will be great difficulty to enact change at all in regards to the delegation of the canal.

[Agiptiota]

Agiptiota has a problem with the current ownership of the canal and demands to be paid a large sum of money annually if Asura would like to continue occupying land on another continent.

[Dolorem]

But surely that is not necessary. Why not let Asura, or at the very least Dolorem help to solve your crisis with Agiptiote-Arpadesia, getting you the land, should you allow continued Asuran ownership of the Canal.