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Realistic Vietnam war (Sign Ups, OOC, Rules, Map)

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Realistic Vietnam war (Sign Ups, OOC, Rules, Map)

Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:03 am

The Vietnam war demonstrated the capabilities of commanders to fight under different conditions, with the new helicopter being used as a weapons and either using or countering guerrilla warfare and insurgency.

The following is the map to be used in the RP. Yes I realize Khe Sanh wasn't an island but it helps the RP.

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(HD Version can be found here: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125 ... heSanh.jpg)

Rules:
No more than five nations per side (Redfor vs Bluefor)
No weapons of mass destruction (Biological, chemical or nuclear. Exceptions may be made in EXTREME circumstances but ask first.)
Military strength must not exceed one regiment/brigade (Approx. 3-5 thousand or 3-8 battalions)
Deception, traps, ambushes and political intrigue are allowed so long as moderation and realism is thought of first
ALL Bluefor troops must base themselves at Khe Sanh airfield or they cannot receive supplies and logistic support.
ALL Redfor troops live off the land and enemy logistics, they gain forces slower but can recuperate anywhere on the map.
Bluefor must hold Khe Sanh AND force Redfor to surrender
Redfor must take Khen Sanh OR force Bluefor to surrender
Choose a branch, Marines, Mechanized, Armoured, Motorized, Air Force, Air Cavalry, Airborne etc.
ALL Military forces must be divided into Brigades/Regiments, Battalions and Companies using the following key:

Brigade/Regiment = 4 battalions
Battalion = 6 companies
Company = 4 platoons
platoon = 25 people

You don't need to know exact numbers of your troops, just remember the name of the section of troops you are using in the RP.

There are a lot of rules but you will always have a second chance if you break them, accidents happen and they're hard to remember.

If you have 4 battalions, 1 battalion may be support with a company dedicated to artillery (a Battery), 1 may be a mechanized section to transport troops, 1 may a helicopter section etc. While these together would not make a formal battalion, they are conglomeration
of several company strength sections which add up to a battalion.



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Name:
What real life nation will you RP:
Faction:
RP Sample:
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic:
Do you promise not to write one liner posts:
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be:
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:



My personal APP for example's sake:

Name: Vivoe
What real life nation will you RP: Australia
Faction: Blufor
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=285711
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Yes
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:

Regiment: Royal Australian Regiment
Battalions: 1RAR, 2RAR, 3RAR, 4RAR (Support Battalion)
Companies: 6 companies to 1RAR, 2RAR and 3RAR
Special sections, teams or units: 4RAR
Composed of: 1 transport helicopter company, 1 105mm howitzer battery, 1 M113 mechanized company, 1 Centurion tank company, 1 bushranger gunship company, 1 81mm mortar company

Good luck, remember if a town has a dozen houses in it, send a platoon or a company, not the whole regiment!

If you can say it with words, you can edit the map on MS Paint, diagrams and arrows look cool as well as conveying a movement of forces and troops more easily.

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In Character thread: viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=291893
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Postby Sharko Federation » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:22 am

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Name: The Arab State Of The Sharko Federation
What real life nation will you RP: North Vietnam/ NVA
Faction:RedFor
RP Sample: You Know Mee
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic:HOORAH
Do you promise not to write one liner posts:Course'
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be:HELL YEAH
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:


Regiment:33rd Imperial NVA Regiment
Battalions: 1INVAR 2INVAR 3INVAR(Support Ops Battalion) 4INVAR
Companies:1INVAR 2INVAR 4INVAR
Special sections, teams or units:3INVAR
Composed of: 1 Mil Transport Helicopter Company, 1 UAZ Transport company, 1 T-55 tank company, 1 Mil Attack gunship company, 1 Motorcycle Mounted Calvary Company
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:30 am

Sharko Federation wrote:APP:

Name: The Arab State Of The Sharko Federation
What real life nation will you RP: North Vietnam/ NVA
Faction:RedFor
RP Sample: You Know Mee
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic:HOORAH
Do you promise not to write one liner posts:Course'
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be:HELL YEAH
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:


Regiment:33rd Imperial NVA Regiment
Battalions: 1INVAR 2INVAR 3INVAR 4INVAR(Support Battalion)
Companies:1INVAR 2INVAR 4INVAR
Special sections, teams or units:3INVAR
Composed of: 1 Mil Transport Helicopter Company, 1 UAZ Transport company, 1 T-55 tank company, 1 Mil Attack gunship company, 1 Motorcycle Mounted Calvary Company


Accepted! Though I'm confused about your use of Support battalion after 4INVAR, wouldn't 3INVAR be considered your support battalion?
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Postby Sharko Federation » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:46 am

Vivoe wrote:
Sharko Federation wrote:APP:

Name: The Arab State Of The Sharko Federation
What real life nation will you RP: North Vietnam/ NVA
Faction:RedFor
RP Sample: You Know Mee
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic:HOORAH
Do you promise not to write one liner posts:Course'
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be:HELL YEAH
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:


Regiment:33rd Imperial NVA Regiment
Battalions: 1INVAR 2INVAR 3INVAR 4INVAR(Support Battalion)
Companies:1INVAR 2INVAR 4INVAR
Special sections, teams or units:3INVAR
Composed of: 1 Mil Transport Helicopter Company, 1 UAZ Transport company, 1 T-55 tank company, 1 Mil Attack gunship company, 1 Motorcycle Mounted Calvary Company


Accepted! Though I'm confused about your use of Support battalion after 4INVAR, wouldn't 3INVAR be considered your support battalion?
Oops, IMMA cHANge That
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:02 am

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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:19 am

Name: The Democratic Republic of Bulgar Rouge
What real life nation will you RP: NVA
Faction: RedFor
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=275683&start=225
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Duh
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:
  • 211th NVA Battalion:
    • 1st Company (mechanised infantry: PT-76, BTR-40)
    • 2nd Company (infantry)
    • 3rd Company (infantry)
    • 4th Company (support: ZSU-57-2, ZSU-23-4, M1937 A-19 122 mm guns, 82 mm mortars)
    • 5th Company (reconnaissance: BRDM-1, sniper units)
  • 212th NVA Battalion:
    • 6th Company (mechanised infantry: Type 59 medium tank, BTR-40)
    • 7th Company (infantry)
    • 8th Company (infantry)
    • 9th Company (engineering - mine layers, bridge layer, flamethrowers, etc.)
    • 10th Company (artillery: A-19 122 mm guns, 160 mm mortars)
  • HQ Battalion (S-60 AA guns, 3x Mi-8 helicopters, 1x Mi-24 helicopter)
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:32 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:Name: The Democratic Republic of Bulgar Rouge
What real life nation will you RP: NVA
Faction: RedFor
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=275683&start=225
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Duh
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:
211th NVA Battalion:
  • 1st Company (mechanised infantry: PT-76, BTR-40)
  • 2nd Company (infantry)
  • 3rd Company (infantry)
  • 4th Company (support: ZSU-57-2, ZSU-23-4, M1937 A-19 122 mm guns, 82 mm mortars)
  • 5th Company (reconnaissance: BRDM-1, sniper units)


Accepted, you can however have multiple Battalions if you want. You could add the extra battalions as just infantry units or specialize them, it's up to you.

In Character thread will be up as soon as there is either another Blufor player OR twelve hours pass.
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Postby Pulau Ubin » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:36 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:Name: The Democratic Republic of Bulgar Rouge
What real life nation will you RP: NVA
Faction: RedFor
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=275683&start=225
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Duh
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:
211th NVA Battalion:
  • 1st Company (mechanised infantry: PT-76, BTR-40)
  • 2nd Company (infantry)
  • 3rd Company (infantry)
  • 4th Company (support: ZSU-57-2, ZSU-23-4, M1937 A-19 122 mm guns, 82 mm mortars)
  • 5th Company (reconnaissance: BRDM-1, sniper units)
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Postby Pulau Ubin » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:36 am

Pulau Ubin wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:Name: The Democratic Republic of Bulgar Rouge
What real life nation will you RP: NVA
Faction: RedFor
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=275683&start=225
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Duh
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops:
211th NVA Battalion:
  • 1st Company (mechanised infantry: PT-76, BTR-40)
  • 2nd Company (infantry)
  • 3rd Company (infantry)
  • 4th Company (support: ZSU-57-2, ZSU-23-4, M1937 A-19 122 mm guns, 82 mm mortars)
  • 5th Company (reconnaissance: BRDM-1, sniper units)
Dude! IM THE NVA!
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:41 am

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Postby Pulau Ubin » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:43 am

Vivoe wrote:NVA has more than one regiment, it's alright. So long as everyone has a different regiment number then it's fine.

Just to keep the sign ups clean until the OOC actually starts, would it be possible for you to delete the previous two and then I'll delete this?
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Postby Tuva SSR » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:08 am

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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:12 am

Tuva SSR wrote:Reserving Laos.Wait,can the French win at Dien Bien Phu?


Hmm, lets say since the french inflicted so many casualties they forced a cease fire in the political side of things with SOME of the colony being given to the Vietnamese. Later, once the Americans and ANZACS got involved France saw an opportunity to reclaim lost land while building up a relationship with a major NATO force and the ANZUS treaty nations. Sound good? It means you can be the French with support back home to reclaim lost land and regain honour
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Postby Tuva SSR » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:18 am

Vivoe wrote:
Tuva SSR wrote:Reserving Laos.Wait,can the French win at Dien Bien Phu?


Hmm, lets say since the french inflicted so many casualties they forced a cease fire in the political side of things with SOME of the colony being given to the Vietnamese. Later, once the Americans and ANZACS got involved France saw an opportunity to reclaim lost land while building up a relationship with a major NATO force and the ANZUS treaty nations. Sound good? It means you can be the French with support back home to reclaim lost land and regain honour

OK! Reserving France!
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:12 am

I will create the In Character thread first thing tomorrow, at the moment I am really tired and don't want to create it, let people post on it but be absent from it for half a day or however long.
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Postby Great Britonia » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:17 am

Name: The United Kingdom of Great Britonia
What real life nation will you RP: United States
Faction: BLUFOR
RP Sample: You know me.
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes.
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes.
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Yes.
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops: STILL EDITING
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Postby Taffy 3 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:24 am

Great Britonia wrote:Name: The United Kingdom of Great Britonia
What real life nation will you RP: United States
Faction: BLUFOR
RP Sample: You know me.
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes.
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes.
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Yes.
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops: STILL EDITING

Britonia, do you mind if I RP the US Navy's portion? I won't touch your army or AF, I just want to do the whole Yankee station part of the RP if that's OK with you.
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Postby Great Britonia » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:49 am

Taffy 3 wrote:
Great Britonia wrote:Name: The United Kingdom of Great Britonia
What real life nation will you RP: United States
Faction: BLUFOR
RP Sample: You know me.
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes.
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes.
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Yes.
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops: STILL EDITING

Britonia, do you mind if I RP the US Navy's portion? I won't touch your army or AF, I just want to do the whole Yankee station part of the RP if that's OK with you.


Sure..
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:43 pm

You'll both be accepted so long as you post a breakdown of the forces you are bringing since I know you two
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Postby Taffy 3 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:52 pm

Vivoe wrote:You'll both be accepted so long as you post a breakdown of the forces you are bringing since I know you two

Gotcha. I'm bringing 3 carriers into Yankee station plus their escort force, but that screening force only shot down 2 aircraft in the entire war as it was deemed to be a bad move politically by the Vietnamese to target a carrier.

The 3 carriers on station will rotate in and out so they won't always be the same carriers (once again in keeping with realism of the situation a carrier will be on station for 6 months, go home, and be replaced by another one at Yankee Station. During rare moments, the number of carriers may surge to 6, but that is only for a short time and for something mirroring Operation Linebacker II. 90% of the time, I should have 3 carriers at Yankee station running ops in a cycle of 1 carrier midnight to noon, a 2nd carrier doing noon to midnight, and a 3rd carrier operating exclusively during daylight.

For example, I can have Enterprise, Oriskany, and Forrestal all on Yankee station with each vessel covering one of those 3 windows. Overtime, Enterprise can leave and be replaced by Kitty Hawk or another carrier. I do know my Forrestal will suffer some sort of flight deck catastrophe.
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:58 pm

Okay, sounds good. Just work out how many of each type of aircraft you are using and how many will be on each carrier (assuming you want a different combination of aircraft types and numbers on the 3 different carriers).

Now that we have more Blufor players I will be setting up the In Character thread which I will link both in a comment below and edit into the original post.
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Postby Taffy 3 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:03 pm

Vivoe wrote:Okay, sounds good. Just work out how many of each type of aircraft you are using and how many will be on each carrier (assuming you want a different combination of aircraft types and numbers on the 3 different carriers).

Now that we have more Blufor players I will be setting up the In Character thread which I will link both in a comment below and edit into the original post.

I'll work that out, I have some old books I can dust off that detail the make-up of an airwing of the era. I do know that some of the smaller carriers (WWII era leftovers) such as the Oriskany would have a different make-up than the supercarriers of the Forrestal, Kitty Hawk, and Enterprise classes. The airwings will change throughout the war though as I'll begin with A-4's in the light attack role until the A-7's replace them. The A-6 will remain in the medium attack role. The F-4 will be the primary fighter, but the smaller Essex and Midway class carriers may still carry F-8s
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:11 pm

It doesn't matter if the set up of the wings aren't perfect, just so long as there is a set number of aircraft that you can bring into combat and everyone knows the strength of your forces
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:25 pm

in Character thread is up, please only post there once you have made a decision on how your military force will be arranged:

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=291893
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Postby Lubby » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:36 pm

APP:

Name: lubby
What real life nation will you RP: Soviet Union
Faction: REDforust
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289619&start=450
Do you promise to keep troop density realistic: Yes
Do you promise not to write one liner posts: Yes
Do you promise to try to be as realistic as YOU can be: Yes
Explain your order of battle and arrangement of troops: I am not sending troops, just commanders to train. (If I do, I will contact you)

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