Region Practice War (OOC/MT/NCSA only)

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Ahem. Alright. This is the promised thread for the Practice War for NeoConfederate States of America. In here will be the rules, the OOC, and the discussions. I will post the IC later today.

IC

Notes:

Since NSTracker uses Divisions as it's base army unit I think we need to come up with a standard division. Doing a little math with my NSTracker page I found that one of their divisions is about 12,490 men (Wikipedia places a division as between 10,000–15,000 soldiers, so that's fair). I think for ease of math though we'll go 12,500.

OK, now what is in a division according to Wikipedia. A generic U.S. division is composed of four maneuver brigades, an aviation brigade, an engineer brigade, and division artillery.

Maneuver Brigades I'm going to assume are rifle toting soldiers.

4 brigades of those with 2,695 soldiers each.

Aviation Brigade: In the army this means helicopters. The U.S. since 2010 has begun using this as their model for one of those. This doesn't tell exactly how many men, but we do get a nice list of equipment. I count somewhere around 50 helicopters, say each one has a crew of 2 that puts us at around 100, add in another 50 ground crew and 50 people in the command we'll say 200 people for this unit. This may be low balling this unit but I'm trying to save people for the gun toters.
Headquarters and Headquarters Company
Attack Reconnaissance Battalion or ARB (three companies with 8 AH-64 Apache each)
Attack Reconnaissance Squadron or ARS (three troops with 7 OH-58D Kiowa Warrior each, and a UAS company with two platoons with 4 RQ-7B Shadow UAV each)
Assault Helicopter Battalion or AHB (three companies with 10 UH-60 Black Hawk each, and a pathfinder company)
General Support Aviation Battalion or GSAB (a Command Aviation Company or CAC with 4 UH-60 Black Hawk and 4 EUH-60 equipped with AN/ASC-38 Army Airborne Command and Control System [A2C2S], a Heavy Helicopter Company or HvyHC with three platoons with 4 CH-47 Chinook each, an Air Ambulance Medical Company or AAMC with four platoons with 3 HH-60M each equipped with MEDEVAC mission equipment, and an Air Traffic Services or ATS company)
UAS company (three platoons with 4 MQ-1C Gray Eagle UAV each)
Aviation Support Battalion or ASB

Engineer Brigade: These are the people who build bridges for your soldiers and tanks when you need it, landing strips or pads, etc. The largest number I could find for one of these when deployed was 500 soldiers.

Division Artillery: I'm going to assume this is a catchall for Tanks, artillery pieces, and rocket launchers. I couldn't find numbers for the U.S. for these but did find them for the U.S.S.R. We'll make this a brigade size unit with the following

Two Tank Battalions with 135 personnel and 31 tanks each, with each tank company consisting of 10 tanks total.

Two Artillery Battalions consisting of a battalion headquarters, a headquarters platoon, a maintenance and supply platoon and three firing batteries of eighteen artillery pieces and numbering 250 personnel each.

One Rocket launcher artillery battalion consisting of a headquarters and headquarters platoon, a service battery and three firing batteries for a total of 255 personnel.

You could of course swap out a tank brigade for a mechanized infantry brigade (APCs) if you wished.

For navy, I think that is simple. Just for reference to what I'm saying, this link will help tremendously: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_o ... ion#Navies

Now, NStracker uses the standard as squadrons. Vaguely, a squadron is a small number of ships. That leaves us for some individual customization. So, given the fact that a squadron includes at least one capital ship, we can argue that a capital ship is a battleship or aircraft carrier, or both.

Now, given the fact that there is a rear admiral in charge of the navy squadron, at least in America, that means that he's going to want a flagship. Page really, the flagship will be the Aircraft carrier.

Now, an aircraft carrier or a battleship is slow. So if we include both of them in the squadron, we need some escorts. So, generally, you can argue that a battleship will generally have one heavy cruiser as an escort, two light cruisers, and maybe ten destroyers. As a maximum. At the bare minimum, maybe five destroyers.

That means six ships. Now, we're just going from two ends of the spectrum. At most 14 ships for the battleship.

For an aircraft carrier, we're going to need a little bit more, because an aircraft carrier cannot protect against capital ships if her planes are out. So, we're talking maybe one or two heavy cruisers, max four light cruisers, and around maybe 12 destroyers. So, at bare minimum, ten destroyers. Which is 11 ships minimum. So, that would be, once again, 18 ships maximum.

So, now combine them together, that's 17-18 ships minimum, and 32 ships maximum. Just accounting for escorts. This isn't even including submarines or smaller craft. Taking that into account, I'd say around 40 ships maximum for the squadron, with about 100 maximum logistical civilian ships behind.

As for the Air wing, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_o ... Air_forces

Now, one air wing, which is what the standard is, is composed of around 300-5000 personnel. Now, I didn't put any personnel in the first part because I know you all have different ships, so I left room for customization.

According to wiki, that's about 15(for math's sake. Reality 17) to 100 planes in there. Now, taking into account how many pilots you need for one plane, that's about 30-200 pilots if it's just fighters. Usually, an air wing is just one set of planes. So, for bombers, that could be anywhere from 30 crew members, to 500 crew members.

That would leave the rest for maintenance and military police. That's just one air wing. I'm not even going into the bigger parts.

This is the practice war for the region. If anyone wants to join, read the rules and gameplay. Then, make an App.

Rules:
1. No Godmods
2. Must not attack allied nations no matter what
3. Must use NS tracker
4. Absolutely NO WMDs. Mustard gas shells are fine.
5. All OOC must be in a separate thread.

Gameplay:
1. Plays in rounds
2. Each round lasts 50 pages.
3. If there is more than one enemy nation in the game by the time the round ends, the points are totaled, and the most determines the winner.
4. If your country is invaded YOU ARE NOT OUT OF THE ROUND. You can hide your soldiers in the allied lands.
5.You must post how many people died during your battles. Example: 1000 Soldiers, 5 civilians, 2 officers killed by Die erworbenen Namen
6. Gameplay will be judged by moderators.
7. If you want to join the round, make an app. Only a few can join the round.

Points:
1. Kill a civilian: 0.0001
2. Kill a soldier: 0.001
3. Kill an officer: 0.01
4. Kill a General: 0.1
5. Destroy an armoured vehicle/Artillery: 0.05
6. Destroy a tank/plane/bomber: 0.15
7. Destroy a ship (Light cruiser or smaller): 1
8. Destroy a heavy ship (Heavy cruiser to Battleship):1.5
9. Destroy an Aircraft Carrier: 2
10. Capture a villiage: 10
11. Capture a city: 100
12. Capture a nation/kill its leader: 1000
13. War crimes: -10

App:

Nation:
Alliance:
Resources:
Place on the Map:
Soldiers:
Tanks:
Ships:
Planes:
Leaders:

[KASSRD]

Finally it begins!
Nation:KASSRD
Alliance: The Rebellion
Resources: Oil, Natural gas, lumber, Food
Place on map: Southern/Eastern Texas
Soldiers: 31,200 (including engineer brigade, artillery brigade,Ted.)
Tanks:77
Ships: 40 (plus five submarine)
Planes: 100
Leaders: King Gage, General Kevin Rhag, Supreme Admiral Daniel Leme, Colonol James Piercemen, General Laurel Svago, High Marchal of the Air Force Kennedy Jwerd

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Accepted!

[States of North Atlantic]

I have a huge military budget so that's why stats are so high
Nation:States of North Atlantic
Alliance: The Rebellion
Resources: Uranium
Place on map: Delaware, New Jersey, part of Virginia
Soldiers: 73,260
Tanks: 744
Ships: 78
Planes: 1,220
Leaders: Leader Vahku, Admiral Juerston, General Lacy, Marchal Urakke

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Accepted!

[Amero Union]

Where are we getting these stats?

[KASSRD]

From NSTracker. However since you are so large you should probrably do what Missouri did. That away the war isn't between two superpowers and a few minor inconveniences.

[Amero Union]

This is practice so I am going to act in the way I would if a real case situation came up, I will not be crazy about it though. Like I will never go more then 3/1 on someone.

[KASSRD]

Okay

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Alright. So now, it's AU and I against you two. Gonna set up IC today!

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=286212

IC here

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Goddamn it...

USE THE OOC TO DISCUSS

[New Dothan]

Calm down... Just a declaration of war. I don't plan on fighting until Amero pops in anyways.
Nation: New Dothan
Alliance: Rebels
Resources: Oil, Lumber, Food, Steel
Place on the Map: South Alabama (Some divisions are in North Alabama due to a current conquest)
Soldiers: 1.1 million (358 thousand active)
Tanks: 2000
Ships: 67
Planes: 1011
Leaders: James Barnahm Sr. (governor), Collin Pennington, Richard Woolworth

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Calm down... Just a declaration of war. I don't plan on fighting until Amero pops in anyways.
Nation: New Dothan
Alliance: Rebels
Resources: Oil, Lumber, Food, Steel
Place on the Map: South Alabama (Some divisions are in North Alabama due to a current conquest)
Soldiers: 1.1 million (358 thousand active)
Tanks: 2000
Ships: 67
Planes: 1011
Leaders: James Barnahm Sr. (governor), Collin Pennington, Richard Woolworth

Okay. I know. You are accepted (I would accept you anyways, just saying.)

[KASSRD]

First off, I didn't know this was where discussions were held, I thought we would abbaddon this thread once the war started. I would have if I had known, sorry.
Secondly, I never said it was a day, and this was planned, after all. For all you know, these troops could have been camped a mile away from the border for the past month, waiting to see if we needed to invade. Also, I had assumed the fortresses were around Fairbanks, and the general area, not near a town of 1,500 people. I can change it to a fort if you want.
And SONA gave me permission to use those regiments.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

First of all, no. You don't have people stationed there for a month or so. I would've known. No, it wasn't planned. It couldn't be planned a month ahead. Once again, this is just taking place now. The news just reached everyone now. Do try to keep to that. You can have troop movements a day before this happened. Not a month.

[KASSRD]

The war started today, but tension has been brewing for months, if not years. It makes perfect sense that I would have troops stationed in the case on conflict. And you said you have naval bases in KASSRD, so by that logic we all have military bases in each other's territory. I could have ordered them to attack.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

First off all, No. As rule, I am the OP. Now, that's just a godmod. A clear and outright godmod. I RPed having bases there as a treaty. You didn't. Besides, I wasn't going to use them as an offensive. It would be like the civil war.

Also, this is the reason why we're having this. To get better at RPing.

I also intended this to be diplomatic at first, to flex our diplomacy skills/

[KASSRD]

What would you prefer me to do with them then? Attack one of your fortresses? Reset that part and just have an air strike? Anything?
Also like you said this is practice for a reason, to figure out the kinks.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

First I would like you to RP riots. Thats where I send in troops to secure my fort, k?

[KASSRD]

The one in KASSRD? No problem. I'll just edit my war post.
Oh well, looks like ill have to wait a while to invade.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

We weren't planning on fighting a defensive war. Remember, you have to RP your troops crossing the continent, via plane, or simply by car. Another thing, I sorta intended it to be fought defensively on your side, then for the next time, vice versa?

[KASSRD]

Okay. I edited my attack post to a more realistic battle. You have a few hours left to state you troops.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

I'm a little tired... I'll get to it later....

[KASSRD]

I'm going away for weeklong.