Nationstates Landgrab (OOC) (CLOSED)

by **Quavv** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:19 am

Most of you have probably seen RPs like this. Basically we're just role playing as our nationstates nations only we're using a real map. Rps like this usually end up involving a lot of land grabbing and expansion, which ends up being pretty fun. I couldn't find a really good map with the states/provinces and stuff separated, so when you select a location for your country, just give me the name of the real world country. For the most part, I will only allow everyone to select one country. Also, your population size will kinda determine how large a plot of land I will allow you to have. Like a country with a population of 5 million isn't going to be allowed to claim Russia or China. Anyway, I'll post individual continents later, but you guys can go ahead and start claiming. Oh and sorry but I'm claiming China for myself

Accepted Claims

by **Nyani** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 am

RPs like this are always fun!

Nationstates name: Nyani
Name of country being claimed: Ethiopia
Population Size: 2.168 billion
Military Size: 108,400,000 (5% of my population)
Color: #228b22
Flag:

by **Quavv** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:54 pm

Accepted ^^^

Anybody else?

by **Wellonia** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:45 pm

Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:

by **Valrifell** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Nationstates name: Valrifell
Name of country being claimed: Indonesia, New Guinea, the Philippines (if I cannot claim multiple territories, Indonesia.)
Population Size: one billion
Military Size: three million (.003%)
Color: #00fa9a
Flag: Current flag (look)

by **Quavv** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:05 pm

Map is Updated!

Valrifell, as you can see, I just gave you Indonesia. One thing I wanted to mention though is that you got the military # incorrect. 0.003% of your total population (1.011 billion) is not 3 million, it's 30,330 (thirty thousand three hundred and thirty). If you want a military of three million then you have to increase the percentage. Just use google to figure out the exact numbers, that's what I do.

by **Rentalla** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:14 pm

Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag:

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:24 am

Rentalla wrote:Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag: (Image)

Switzerland is fairly small, so I'll give you Germany and Switzerland.

Wellonia wrote:Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:
(Image)

In case you haven't noticed, I made your nation color darker then the one you provided. This is because I realized that the color you provided was way too close to the color of the water, and Ukraine is right by a body of water so I didn't want any confusion.

by **Valrifell** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:38 am

Quavv wrote:Map is Updated!

Valrifell, as you can see, I just gave you Indonesia. One thing I wanted to mention though is that you got the military # incorrect. 0.003% of your total population (1.011 billion) is not 3 million, it's 30,330 (thirty thousand three hundred and thirty). If you want a military of three million then you have to increase the percentage. Just use google to figure out the exact numbers, that's what I do.

Err...
No, I didn't, (it's not possible for .003% of one billion have more than one digit other than zero, So one one thousandth of one billion cannot be that number.
Not to mention I used a calculator to check and figure it out.( I did use Google)
Also the thing that made other landgrabs better (in my opinion) is that they claimed territories. Not entire nations.

by **Tiami** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:12 am

Rentalla wrote:Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag: (Image)

Your military size, 36,072,000 is about 2.2% of your population, not 8% of your population. 133,600,000 is 8% of your population. As stated below, I'd recommend not going above 5%.

Wellonia wrote:Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:
(Image)

Wellonia, it is a common guideline that your military population may not exceed 5% of your total population; however, at 5%, you must take in some variables.
At 5%, you may have a very large military, but it will not be armed with state-of-the-art technology, nor will you superbly trained soldiers. While you are off fighting wars with 5% of your population, your manufacturing and other industry will suffer from a potential lack of employment, which further strains your economy. You see, having the biggest military may be cool, but there are severe consequences that go with it. This is why I keep a military size of about 1.5%(or about 110,000,000; roughly 109,125,000), which means I have well-trained soldiers and logistics personnel), super technology, and a professional force that can go up with just about anything. Never forget about the logistics side of warfare. Logistics are what run your war, not your soldiers. They fight it, but logistics sustain it. Without logistics, soldier will surely fail. I would take a smaller, better-trained and equipped force over a force three times larger but less equipped and trained any day.

So, I would suggest toning your military size down to around 2% of your total population. Again, the 5% rule is a guideline that many veteran and new RPers alike typically follow. You do not have to, but if you want to expand your RPing perimeter, toning your military population to under 5% may be fruitful to you, as many RPers may simply not RP with you.

Have any questions? Send me a TG and I will do my best to answer them.

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:16 am

Valrifell wrote:
Quavv wrote:Map is Updated!

Valrifell, as you can see, I just gave you Indonesia. One thing I wanted to mention though is that you got the military # incorrect. 0.003% of your total population (1.011 billion) is not 3 million, it's 30,330 (thirty thousand three hundred and thirty). If you want a military of three million then you have to increase the percentage. Just use google to figure out the exact numbers, that's what I do.

Err...
No, I didn't, (it's not possible for .003% of one billion have more than one digit other than zero, So one one thousandth of one billion cannot be that number.
Not to mention I used a calculator to check and figure it out.( I did use Google)
Also the thing that made other landgrabs better (in my opinion) is that they claimed territories. Not entire nations.

Well I took .003% of your total population (1.011 billion) and got 30,330. 0.003% of 1 billion would be 30,000. At least that is what I keep getting on google. I literally put .003% of 1 billion in the search bar and that is what I got. Either way, I haven't gotten 3 million.

As far as the territory claim, the only reason I didn't do that is because 1) I couldn't find a good territory map and 2) Since I wanted to put nation names and flags rather than just colors, it would be much more difficult, especially if there came a time to delete a nation for any reason.

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:21 am

Tiami wrote:
Rentalla wrote:Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag: (Image)

Your military size, 36,072,000 is about 2.2% of your population, not 8% of your population. 133,600,000 is 8% of your population. As stated below, I'd recommend not going above 5%.

Wellonia wrote:Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:
(Image)

Wellonia, it is a common guideline that your military population may not exceed 5% of your total population; however, at 5%, you must take in some variables.
At 5%, you may have a very large military, but it will not be armed with state-of-the-art technology, nor will you superbly trained soldiers. While you are off fighting wars with 5% of your population, your manufacturing and other industry will suffer from a potential lack of employment, which further strains your economy. You see, having the biggest military may be cool, but there are severe consequences that go with it. This is why I keep a military size of about 1.5%(or about 110,000,000; roughly 109,125,000), which means I have well-trained soldiers and logistics personnel), super technology, and a professional force that can go up with just about anything. Never forget about the logistics side of warfare. Logistics are what run your war, not your soldiers. They fight it, but logistics sustain it. Without logistics, soldier will surely fail. I would take a smaller, better-trained and equipped force over a force three times larger but less equipped and trained any day.

So, I would suggest toning your military size down to around 2% of your total population. Again, the 5% rule is a guideline that many veteran and new RPers alike typically follow. You do not have to, but if you want to expand your RPing perimeter, toning your military population to under 5% may be fruitful to you, as many RPers may simply not RP with you.

Have any questions? Send me a TG and I will do my best to answer them.

I thought it was the regular limit was 7%. Cause as you can see, mine is at 7% and I usually have it that high. I guess it makes a bit more sense for Quavv though, and we have slaves and external financial assistance to support such a massive military.

by **Tiami** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:39 am

Quavv wrote:
Tiami wrote:
Your military size, 36,072,000 is about 2.2% of your population, not 8% of your population. 133,600,000 is 8% of your population. As stated below, I'd recommend not going above 5%.

Wellonia, it is a common guideline that your military population may not exceed 5% of your total population; however, at 5%, you must take in some variables.
At 5%, you may have a very large military, but it will not be armed with state-of-the-art technology, nor will you superbly trained soldiers. While you are off fighting wars with 5% of your population, your manufacturing and other industry will suffer from a potential lack of employment, which further strains your economy. You see, having the biggest military may be cool, but there are severe consequences that go with it. This is why I keep a military size of about 1.5%(or about 110,000,000; roughly 109,125,000), which means I have well-trained soldiers and logistics personnel), super technology, and a professional force that can go up with just about anything. Never forget about the logistics side of warfare. Logistics are what run your war, not your soldiers. They fight it, but logistics sustain it. Without logistics, soldier will surely fail. I would take a smaller, better-trained and equipped force over a force three times larger but less equipped and trained any day.

So, I would suggest toning your military size down to around 2% of your total population. Again, the 5% rule is a guideline that many veteran and new RPers alike typically follow. You do not have to, but if you want to expand your RPing perimeter, toning your military population to under 5% may be fruitful to you, as many RPers may simply not RP with you.

Have any questions? Send me a TG and I will do my best to answer them.

I thought it was the regular limit was 7%. Cause as you can see, mine is at 7% and I usually have it that high. I guess it makes a bit more sense for Quavv though, and we have slaves and external financial assistance to support such a massive military.

It is really only a guideline that many RP veterans follow for reasons mentioned in my last post. Economic strain is one of the major reasons why having such a large force can be a bane to your nation. This is why I keep my military around 1.5% so I can keep my economy healthy, have a trained force, and still keep a more-than-capable force. So, I would suggest you also tone your military population down, but you do not have to if you choose not to. I'll reiterate; 5% is only a guideline; it does not have to be followed, but expect backlash from the RP community.

On IIWiki · by **Astholm** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:41 am

Name of country being claimed: Belgium Astholm [Belgium] (in this case Belgium Astholm, using my nation's conventions of Astholm as prefix or suffix for nations within The Holmes
Population Size: (Don't lie because I will check your nation stats) 10.961 billion (Astholm's total); actual size of population for this nation is 11,439,584 (make it more densely populated than Belgium's real population which is 11,099,554)
Military Size: (Give me a number and what percentage it is of your total population) N/A, this nation does not have military, only police force and SWAT team. Assistance from Astholm is provided per agreement, an army is only permitted during times of war.
Color: (Please give me the HTML code from here >>> http://www.oultwood.com/programming/color.php) #00ff7f.
Flag: (Please post image)
Officially there are two flags for this nation

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:52 am

Astholm wrote:Name of country being claimed: Belgium Astholm [Belgium] (in this case Belgium Astholm, using my nation's conventions of Astholm as prefix or suffix for nations within The Holmes
Population Size: (Don't lie because I will check your nation stats) 10.961 billion (Astholm's total); actual size of population for this nation is 11,439,584 (make it more densely populated than Belgium's real population which is 11,099,554)
Military Size: (Give me a number and what percentage it is of your total population) N/A, this nation does not have military, only police force and SWAT team. Assistance from Astholm is provided per agreement, an army is only permitted during times of war.
Color: (Please give me the HTML code from here >>> http://www.oultwood.com/programming/color.php) #00ff7f.
Flag: (Please post image)
Officially there are two flags for this nation
(Image)
(Image)

You've confused me with all the extra, so let me get this strait.

Nationstates Nation: Astholm
Name of Country Being claimed: Belgium
Population Size: 10.961 billion
Military Size: No official military
Color: #00ff7f
Flag:

Is this correct?

On IIWiki · by **Astholm** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:57 am

Quavv wrote:
Astholm wrote:Name of country being claimed: Belgium Astholm [Belgium] (in this case Belgium Astholm, using my nation's conventions of Astholm as prefix or suffix for nations within The Holmes
Population Size: (Don't lie because I will check your nation stats) 10.961 billion (Astholm's total); actual size of population for this nation is 11,439,584 (make it more densely populated than Belgium's real population which is 11,099,554)
Military Size: (Give me a number and what percentage it is of your total population) N/A, this nation does not have military, only police force and SWAT team. Assistance from Astholm is provided per agreement, an army is only permitted during times of war.
Color: (Please give me the HTML code from here >>> http://www.oultwood.com/programming/color.php) #00ff7f.
Flag: (Please post image)
Officially there are two flags for this nation
(Image)
(Image)

You've confused me with all the extra, so let me get this strait.

Nationstates Nation: Astholm
Name of Country Being claimed: Belgium
Population Size: 10.961 billion
Military Size: No official military
Color: #00ff7f
Flag:

Is this correct?

Yes, that is correct apart from the population size which is; I added the extra for explanatory purposes only.

Edited version below.
Nationstates Nation: Astholm
Name of Country Being claimed: Belgium
Population Size: 11,439,584
Military Size: No official military
Color: #00ff7f
Flag:

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:05 am

Well my intention was to keep the population size the same. I wasn't allowing people to choose their population size.

by **Zaldakki** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 am

Nationstates name: Zaldakki
Name of country being claimed: Philippines
Population Size: 82 million (see my sig)
Military Size: To be updated
Color: #daa520
Flag: To be updated

On IIWiki · by **Astholm** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:16 am

Quavv wrote:Well my intention was to keep the population size the same. I wasn't allowing people to choose their population size.

Thank you for explaining that; I misunderstood it!

by **Wellonia** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:53 pm

Quavv wrote:
Rentalla wrote:Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag: (Image)

Switzerland is fairly small, so I'll give you Germany and Switzerland.

Wellonia wrote:Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:
(Image)

In case you haven't noticed, I made your nation color darker then the one you provided. This is because I realized that the color you provided was way too close to the color of the water, and Ukraine is right by a body of water so I didn't want any confusion.

OK that's fine.

Tiami wrote:
Rentalla wrote:Nationstates name: Imperial Republic of Rentalla
Name of country being claimed: Germany. Can i have Austria and Switzerland too?
Population Size: 1.67 billion
Military Size: 36,072,000 (8%)
Color: #191970
Flag: (Image)

Your military size, 36,072,000 is about 2.2% of your population, not 8% of your population. 133,600,000 is 8% of your population. As stated below, I'd recommend not going above 5%.

Wellonia wrote:Might as well help fill up your map.

Nationstates name: Wellonia
Name of country being claimed: Give me Ukraine
Population Size: 5.757 billion
Military Size: Six percent = 345420000
Color: #1e90ff
Flag:
(Image)

Wellonia, it is a common guideline that your military population may not exceed 5% of your total population; however, at 5%, you must take in some variables.
At 5%, you may have a very large military, but it will not be armed with state-of-the-art technology, nor will you superbly trained soldiers. While you are off fighting wars with 5% of your population, your manufacturing and other industry will suffer from a potential lack of employment, which further strains your economy. You see, having the biggest military may be cool, but there are severe consequences that go with it. This is why I keep a military size of about 1.5%(or about 110,000,000; roughly 109,125,000), which means I have well-trained soldiers and logistics personnel), super technology, and a professional force that can go up with just about anything. Never forget about the logistics side of warfare. Logistics are what run your war, not your soldiers. They fight it, but logistics sustain it. Without logistics, soldier will surely fail. I would take a smaller, better-trained and equipped force over a force three times larger but less equipped and trained any day.

So, I would suggest toning your military size down to around 2% of your total population. Again, the 5% rule is a guideline that many veteran and new RPers alike typically follow. You do not have to, but if you want to expand your RPing perimeter, toning your military population to under 5% may be fruitful to you, as many RPers may simply not RP with you.

Have any questions? Send me a TG and I will do my best to answer them.

Sounds good. Quavv, do 3% of my population instead.

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:57 pm

Wellonia wrote:
Quavv wrote:
Switzerland is fairly small, so I'll give you Germany and Switzerland.

In case you haven't noticed, I made your nation color darker then the one you provided. This is because I realized that the color you provided was way too close to the color of the water, and Ukraine is right by a body of water so I didn't want any confusion.

OK that's fine.

Tiami wrote:
Your military size, 36,072,000 is about 2.2% of your population, not 8% of your population. 133,600,000 is 8% of your population. As stated below, I'd recommend not going above 5%.

Wellonia, it is a common guideline that your military population may not exceed 5% of your total population; however, at 5%, you must take in some variables.
At 5%, you may have a very large military, but it will not be armed with state-of-the-art technology, nor will you superbly trained soldiers. While you are off fighting wars with 5% of your population, your manufacturing and other industry will suffer from a potential lack of employment, which further strains your economy. You see, having the biggest military may be cool, but there are severe consequences that go with it. This is why I keep a military size of about 1.5%(or about 110,000,000; roughly 109,125,000), which means I have well-trained soldiers and logistics personnel), super technology, and a professional force that can go up with just about anything. Never forget about the logistics side of warfare. Logistics are what run your war, not your soldiers. They fight it, but logistics sustain it. Without logistics, soldier will surely fail. I would take a smaller, better-trained and equipped force over a force three times larger but less equipped and trained any day.

So, I would suggest toning your military size down to around 2% of your total population. Again, the 5% rule is a guideline that many veteran and new RPers alike typically follow. You do not have to, but if you want to expand your RPing perimeter, toning your military population to under 5% may be fruitful to you, as many RPers may simply not RP with you.

Have any questions? Send me a TG and I will do my best to answer them.

Sounds good. Quavv, do 3% of my population instead.

Done.

Map is updated everyone!

by **Valrifell** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:06 pm

I withdraw my app...
I no longer wish to be in this.

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:I withdraw my app...
I no longer wish to be in this.

It's not really going anywhere anyway because nobody seems to be interested.

by **Quavv** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:21 pm

Map updated. Valrifell removed.

by **Blue Cross Island** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:00 pm

Nationstates name: Blue Cross Island
Name of country being claimed: Australia, could I also claim New Zealand if thats okay?
Population Size: 421 million
Military Size: At peak strength, it can reach 2 million, approximately 0.5% of the population
Color: #0000cd
Flag:

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