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Theocretes
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Postby Theocretes » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:51 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Theocretes wrote:I have what I think is a great idea:

The world is gonna end in one month
That's it!
No explanation!
Society is going crazy, governments are breaking down etc.
what are you gonna do for your last month alive?
The timeline takes place at actual real world speed (i.e: one day in game is one day IRL)

sound good?

One month? That is so little time! Though, really, all the violence will happen days 4-7.

Exactly!
It's so little time!
No explanation, just -world ended-
I think it would be fun, do you?
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The United States of American Patriots
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Ex-Nation

Postby The United States of American Patriots » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:20 pm

Does anyone want to start a Alternate History RP starting in 1865 where the CSA won their Independence and the Heavenly Kingdom succeeded in uniting China under Christianity?
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Postby Gurori » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:09 pm

I'm thinking of doing a RP where Gurori's Emperor and Empress consort were almost killed during an assassination attempt which ends in them either dying or surviving. Any ideas?
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Anarchy

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:26 pm

Gurori wrote:I'm thinking of doing a RP where Gurori's Emperor and Empress consort were almost killed during an assassination attempt which ends in them either dying or surviving. Any ideas?

CAN I BE PART OF THE ASSASSIN GROUP!?!

Nothing against you, I just like being an assassin. I guess I watched WAY too much CSI, Law and Order, and Criminal Minds.
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Postby Gurori » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:28 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gurori wrote:I'm thinking of doing a RP where Gurori's Emperor and Empress consort were almost killed during an assassination attempt which ends in them either dying or surviving. Any ideas?

CAN I BE PART OF THE ASSASSIN GROUP!?!

Nothing against you, I just like being an assassin. I guess I watched WAY too much CSI, Law and Order, and Criminal Minds.


Ok but good luck hiding yourself from Gurorian officials.

If the assassins are found, it will possibly cause war with your nation so be weary of that.
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The Manticoran Empire
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Anarchy

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:30 pm

Gurori wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:CAN I BE PART OF THE ASSASSIN GROUP!?!

Nothing against you, I just like being an assassin. I guess I watched WAY too much CSI, Law and Order, and Criminal Minds.


Ok but good luck hiding yourself from Gurorian officials.

If the assassins are found, it will possibly cause war with your nation so be weary of that.

Who said they'd be state sponsored or even Manticoran?
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Postby Gurori » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:34 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gurori wrote:
Ok but good luck hiding yourself from Gurorian officials.

If the assassins are found, it will possibly cause war with your nation so be weary of that.

Who said they'd be state sponsored or even Manticoran?



I said possibly. Besides, the thread is up now.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:39 pm

Gurori wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Who said they'd be state sponsored or even Manticoran?



I said possibly. Besides, the thread is up now.

COOL! Link, por favor?
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Postby Gurori » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:40 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gurori wrote:

I said possibly. Besides, the thread is up now.

COOL! Link, por favor?



Plop
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Darznia
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Postby Darznia » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:31 pm

The United States of American Patriots wrote:Does anyone want to start a Alternate History RP starting in 1865 where the CSA won their Independence and the Heavenly Kingdom succeeded in uniting China under Christianity?


I have been wanting to do an alternate history RP involving my nation, however I haven't thought all the way back to 1865. My nation's history is a vague idea starting with the Russia-Ukraine tension and, after war, ending in the creation of Darznia. This idea does sound intriguing however, and maybe we could collaborate somehow?
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The United States of American Patriots
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Postby The United States of American Patriots » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:20 pm

Darznia wrote:
The United States of American Patriots wrote:Does anyone want to start a Alternate History RP starting in 1865 where the CSA won their Independence and the Heavenly Kingdom succeeded in uniting China under Christianity?


I have been wanting to do an alternate history RP involving my nation, however I haven't thought all the way back to 1865. My nation's history is a vague idea starting with the Russia-Ukraine tension and, after war, ending in the creation of Darznia. This idea does sound intriguing however, and maybe we could collaborate somehow?

What do you propose?
Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail- Benito Mussolini

Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy- Benito Mussolini

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:35 pm

The United States of American Patriots wrote:Does anyone want to start a Alternate History RP starting in 1865 where the CSA won their Independence and the Heavenly Kingdom succeeded in uniting China under Christianity?

Considering the fact that the CSA was outnumbered, outgunned, starving, broke, and had no international support from anyone, there would need to be some major historical alterations and they would all need to be plausible ones otherwise it wouldn't work.

By the end of the American Civil War, the Union had drafted 2,213,363 men as compared to the Confederate Army drafting between 500,000 and 1,500,000 men. At their peaks, the US Army had 698,000 men in the field while the Confederates had 360,000 men in the field. The Confederates, by 1865, had lost 1 in 3 soldiers killed by conflict, while the Union had lost 1 in 4. And that isn't even accounting for the vast disparity in equipment. US troops were armed with factory built rifles, cannons, and ammunition. They could always count on fresh supplies of food, uniforms, weapons, and ammunition arriving by train from the North. The Confederate Army was haphazardly equipped with personal weapons, most often shotguns or modified Revolutionary War or Mexican War rifles, and weapons scavenged from the bodies of Union soldiers or from US POWs. They had a similar issue with ammunition, artillery, and horses. The US navy had blockaded their ports and the blockade was extremely effective. Additionally, Southern railroads were all different gauges, depending on the state they were in and the rail line that owned them. In contrast, Northern railways were all the same gauge, regardless of who owned them or what state they were in. As such, Northern armies could more rapidly receive reinforcements and supplies than the primarily horse and wagon Confederate Army.

You have four types of engagements in the ACW. Class A would be Decisive, which would involve tens of thousands of men and the victor would have accomplished vital strategic objectives at the end. Decisive battles are like Fort Sumter, First Bull Run/First Manassas, Wilson's Creek, Fort Donelson, Island Number 10 (New Madrid), Pea Ridge, Glorieta Pass, Shiloh, Fts Jackson and St. Phillip, Siege of Corinth, First Battle of Winchester, Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, Second Bull Run/Second Manassas, Antietam/Sharpsburg, Fredericksburg, Stones River, and Chancellorsville.
Class B would be Major battles, which would involve tens of thousands of men and a direct, observable effect on the direction, duration, conduct, or outcome of a campaign. Such battles are like Port Gibson, Second Fredericksburg, Salem Church, Raymond, Jackson (Mississippi), Big Black River, Brandy Station, and Second Winchester.
Class C battles are formative, involving divisions or large detachments such as brigades that accomplish limited campaign objectives, such as reconnaissance, disruption, defense, or occupation. These have an observable influence on the campaign. Such battles are like Big Bethel, Boonville, Blackburn's Ford, Hatteras Inlet Batteries, First Lexington, Santa Rosa Island, Camp Wildcat, Belmont, and Camp Allegheny.
Class D battles are limited, involving brigades, regiments, battalions, or simply companies rather than divisions or armies, and achieving limited tactical objectives, such as reconnaissance, defense, or occupation. These have no observable influence on the campaign. Limited battles in Our Timeline include Sewell's Point, Aquia, Philippi, Hoke's Run, Kessler's Cross Lanes, Dry Wood Creek, Liberty, Barbourville, Greenbrier River, Fredericktown, First Springfield, Ivy Mountain, and Round Mountain.

A full list of battles, their classification, and their outcomes can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_battles

It is also worth mentioning and understanding that modern estimates put the death toll at between 705,000-900,000+. At least 50,000 civilians were also killed. When adding the wounded and POWs, roughly 1,030,000 men or 3% of the US population were casualties of war.

So, in order to make the CSA win and to make that believable, the CSA basically needs to win all or most of the decisive battles. That would not be possible, simply due to lack of men and material. So, if Jackson doesn't die at Chancellorsville and instead is able to return to duty before Gettysburg, then the Army of Northern Virginia could win the Battle of Gettysburg, threatening Washington D.C. and forcing President Lincoln to recognize the CSA as an independent nation. With Washington so close to the new CS border, the US would move the capital back to Philadelphia and the relationship would be very tense. Quite likely, slavery would be abolished by the dawn of the 20th century due to external pressure. However, you would probably see a US-CS relationship like that of Europe during the same period.
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Postby Nova Sylva » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:57 pm

At the end of the Battle of First Mannasses, the Union Army was in a complete rout. Jackson's brigade and Hampton's Legion (plus a battery of artillery gunners under the name of a commander I do not remember) held off McDowell's corps long enough for the Confederates to counterattack and capture a battery of Union guns, after which McDowell was forced to cede the field. His retreat, which was poorly managed, was directed to Centerville instead of DC.

If Boreguard had pressed his advantage, and marched on Washington, it's entirely possible the war could have ended right then and there.

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Postby The United States of American Patriots » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:59 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
The United States of American Patriots wrote:Does anyone want to start a Alternate History RP starting in 1865 where the CSA won their Independence and the Heavenly Kingdom succeeded in uniting China under Christianity?

Considering the fact that the CSA was outnumbered, outgunned, starving, broke, and had no international support from anyone, there would need to be some major historical alterations and they would all need to be plausible ones otherwise it wouldn't work.

By the end of the American Civil War, the Union had drafted 2,213,363 men as compared to the Confederate Army drafting between 500,000 and 1,500,000 men. At their peaks, the US Army had 698,000 men in the field while the Confederates had 360,000 men in the field. The Confederates, by 1865, had lost 1 in 3 soldiers killed by conflict, while the Union had lost 1 in 4. And that isn't even accounting for the vast disparity in equipment. US troops were armed with factory built rifles, cannons, and ammunition. They could always count on fresh supplies of food, uniforms, weapons, and ammunition arriving by train from the North. The Confederate Army was haphazardly equipped with personal weapons, most often shotguns or modified Revolutionary War or Mexican War rifles, and weapons scavenged from the bodies of Union soldiers or from US POWs. They had a similar issue with ammunition, artillery, and horses. The US navy had blockaded their ports and the blockade was extremely effective. Additionally, Southern railroads were all different gauges, depending on the state they were in and the rail line that owned them. In contrast, Northern railways were all the same gauge, regardless of who owned them or what state they were in. As such, Northern armies could more rapidly receive reinforcements and supplies than the primarily horse and wagon Confederate Army.

You have four types of engagements in the ACW. Class A would be Decisive, which would involve tens of thousands of men and the victor would have accomplished vital strategic objectives at the end. Decisive battles are like Fort Sumter, First Bull Run/First Manassas, Wilson's Creek, Fort Donelson, Island Number 10 (New Madrid), Pea Ridge, Glorieta Pass, Shiloh, Fts Jackson and St. Phillip, Siege of Corinth, First Battle of Winchester, Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, Second Bull Run/Second Manassas, Antietam/Sharpsburg, Fredericksburg, Stones River, and Chancellorsville.
Class B would be Major battles, which would involve tens of thousands of men and a direct, observable effect on the direction, duration, conduct, or outcome of a campaign. Such battles are like Port Gibson, Second Fredericksburg, Salem Church, Raymond, Jackson (Mississippi), Big Black River, Brandy Station, and Second Winchester.
Class C battles are formative, involving divisions or large detachments such as brigades that accomplish limited campaign objectives, such as reconnaissance, disruption, defense, or occupation. These have an observable influence on the campaign. Such battles are like Big Bethel, Boonville, Blackburn's Ford, Hatteras Inlet Batteries, First Lexington, Santa Rosa Island, Camp Wildcat, Belmont, and Camp Allegheny.
Class D battles are limited, involving brigades, regiments, battalions, or simply companies rather than divisions or armies, and achieving limited tactical objectives, such as reconnaissance, defense, or occupation. These have no observable influence on the campaign. Limited battles in Our Timeline include Sewell's Point, Aquia, Philippi, Hoke's Run, Kessler's Cross Lanes, Dry Wood Creek, Liberty, Barbourville, Greenbrier River, Fredericktown, First Springfield, Ivy Mountain, and Round Mountain.

A full list of battles, their classification, and their outcomes can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_battles

It is also worth mentioning and understanding that modern estimates put the death toll at between 705,000-900,000+. At least 50,000 civilians were also killed. When adding the wounded and POWs, roughly 1,030,000 men or 3% of the US population were casualties of war.

So, in order to make the CSA win and to make that believable, the CSA basically needs to win all or most of the decisive battles. That would not be possible, simply due to lack of men and material. So, if Jackson doesn't die at Chancellorsville and instead is able to return to duty before Gettysburg, then the Army of Northern Virginia could win the Battle of Gettysburg, threatening Washington D.C. and forcing President Lincoln to recognize the CSA as an independent nation. With Washington so close to the new CS border, the US would move the capital back to Philadelphia and the relationship would be very tense. Quite likely, slavery would be abolished by the dawn of the 20th century due to external pressure. However, you would probably see a US-CS relationship like that of Europe during the same period.

Okay Manticoran, anything with the Heavenly Kingdom to make it plausible?
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Postby Nova Sylva » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:00 pm

See above.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:52 am

The United States of American Patriots wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Considering the fact that the CSA was outnumbered, outgunned, starving, broke, and had no international support from anyone, there would need to be some major historical alterations and they would all need to be plausible ones otherwise it wouldn't work.

By the end of the American Civil War, the Union had drafted 2,213,363 men as compared to the Confederate Army drafting between 500,000 and 1,500,000 men. At their peaks, the US Army had 698,000 men in the field while the Confederates had 360,000 men in the field. The Confederates, by 1865, had lost 1 in 3 soldiers killed by conflict, while the Union had lost 1 in 4. And that isn't even accounting for the vast disparity in equipment. US troops were armed with factory built rifles, cannons, and ammunition. They could always count on fresh supplies of food, uniforms, weapons, and ammunition arriving by train from the North. The Confederate Army was haphazardly equipped with personal weapons, most often shotguns or modified Revolutionary War or Mexican War rifles, and weapons scavenged from the bodies of Union soldiers or from US POWs. They had a similar issue with ammunition, artillery, and horses. The US navy had blockaded their ports and the blockade was extremely effective. Additionally, Southern railroads were all different gauges, depending on the state they were in and the rail line that owned them. In contrast, Northern railways were all the same gauge, regardless of who owned them or what state they were in. As such, Northern armies could more rapidly receive reinforcements and supplies than the primarily horse and wagon Confederate Army.

You have four types of engagements in the ACW. Class A would be Decisive, which would involve tens of thousands of men and the victor would have accomplished vital strategic objectives at the end. Decisive battles are like Fort Sumter, First Bull Run/First Manassas, Wilson's Creek, Fort Donelson, Island Number 10 (New Madrid), Pea Ridge, Glorieta Pass, Shiloh, Fts Jackson and St. Phillip, Siege of Corinth, First Battle of Winchester, Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, Second Bull Run/Second Manassas, Antietam/Sharpsburg, Fredericksburg, Stones River, and Chancellorsville.
Class B would be Major battles, which would involve tens of thousands of men and a direct, observable effect on the direction, duration, conduct, or outcome of a campaign. Such battles are like Port Gibson, Second Fredericksburg, Salem Church, Raymond, Jackson (Mississippi), Big Black River, Brandy Station, and Second Winchester.
Class C battles are formative, involving divisions or large detachments such as brigades that accomplish limited campaign objectives, such as reconnaissance, disruption, defense, or occupation. These have an observable influence on the campaign. Such battles are like Big Bethel, Boonville, Blackburn's Ford, Hatteras Inlet Batteries, First Lexington, Santa Rosa Island, Camp Wildcat, Belmont, and Camp Allegheny.
Class D battles are limited, involving brigades, regiments, battalions, or simply companies rather than divisions or armies, and achieving limited tactical objectives, such as reconnaissance, defense, or occupation. These have no observable influence on the campaign. Limited battles in Our Timeline include Sewell's Point, Aquia, Philippi, Hoke's Run, Kessler's Cross Lanes, Dry Wood Creek, Liberty, Barbourville, Greenbrier River, Fredericktown, First Springfield, Ivy Mountain, and Round Mountain.

A full list of battles, their classification, and their outcomes can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_battles

It is also worth mentioning and understanding that modern estimates put the death toll at between 705,000-900,000+. At least 50,000 civilians were also killed. When adding the wounded and POWs, roughly 1,030,000 men or 3% of the US population were casualties of war.

So, in order to make the CSA win and to make that believable, the CSA basically needs to win all or most of the decisive battles. That would not be possible, simply due to lack of men and material. So, if Jackson doesn't die at Chancellorsville and instead is able to return to duty before Gettysburg, then the Army of Northern Virginia could win the Battle of Gettysburg, threatening Washington D.C. and forcing President Lincoln to recognize the CSA as an independent nation. With Washington so close to the new CS border, the US would move the capital back to Philadelphia and the relationship would be very tense. Quite likely, slavery would be abolished by the dawn of the 20th century due to external pressure. However, you would probably see a US-CS relationship like that of Europe during the same period.

Okay Manticoran, anything with the Heavenly Kingdom to make it plausible?

My focus has mainly US and European history. I know little of Asian history.
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Postby Nova Sylva » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:26 pm

From above :

At the end of the Battle of First Mannasses, the Union Army was in a complete rout. Jackson's brigade and Hampton's Legion (plus a battery of artillery gunners under the name of a commander I do not remember) held off McDowell's corps long enough for the Confederates to counterattack and capture a battery of Union guns, after which McDowell was forced to cede the field. His retreat, which was poorly managed, was directed to Centerville instead of DC; furthermore, the disorganization in the Union Army was so severe it was a full week before it had been reorganized into an actual fighting force.

If Boreguard had pressed his advantage, and marched on Washington, it's entirely possible the war could have ended right then and there. The CSA would most have certainly been able to take Washington, and the civil war would have been a civil battle - for whatever terms you believe the two sides would come to (either a united America under Confederate rule, or a split nation) is still up for debate, and for you to decide, I guess.
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Postby Wudrye » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:34 pm

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=370972

This is going to be the first RP for this nation and it basically involves the release of a computer virus, the OP in the OOC is fairly short and explains the gist of the story I am planing. The entire thing is going to be free-form and I'll craft the story around who actually participates.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:40 am

Nova Sylva wrote:From above :

At the end of the Battle of First Mannasses, the Union Army was in a complete rout. Jackson's brigade and Hampton's Legion (plus a battery of artillery gunners under the name of a commander I do not remember) held off McDowell's corps long enough for the Confederates to counterattack and capture a battery of Union guns, after which McDowell was forced to cede the field. His retreat, which was poorly managed, was directed to Centerville instead of DC; furthermore, the disorganization in the Union Army was so severe it was a full week before it had been reorganized into an actual fighting force.

If Boreguard had pressed his advantage, and marched on Washington, it's entirely possible the war could have ended right then and there. The CSA would most have certainly been able to take Washington, and the civil war would have been a civil battle - for whatever terms you believe the two sides would come to (either a united America under Confederate rule, or a split nation) is still up for debate, and for you to decide, I guess.

I usually start at Chancellorsville because let's face: Beauregard was a moron. He wouldn't press his advantage for several reasons: He didn't notice it, his army was a bunch of conscripts with literally that one battle of experience against an equally novice army, and he had his army spread all across Manassas. So, I start at Chancellorsville. Stonewall Jackson isn't injured during his night reconnaissance mission. The CS troops still fire at him but they miss. Then, in July of 1863, when Lee's army reaches Gettysburg, Jackson, commanding Third Corps, is ordered to take Culp's Hill and Cemetery Hill. Stonewall Jackson being Stonewall Jackson, Culp's Hill is seized by the Stonewall Brigade and artillery is positioned at the summit, raining shellfire down on the Union lines on Cemetery Hill, allowing the rest of Jackson's men to take Cemetery Hill, effectively routing the Union Army before it can arrive. By July 4th, General Meade is forced to retreat and Washington D.C. is threatened by the Army of Northern Virginia, forcing Lincoln to sue for Peace, creating two separate American nations. However, fighting continues, particularly in West Virginia and the West.
For: Israel, Palestine, Kurdistan, American Nationalism, American citizens of Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and US Virgin Islands receiving a congressional vote and being allowed to vote for president, military, veterans before refugees, guns, pro choice, LGBT marriage, plural marriage, US Constitution, World Peace, Global Unity.

Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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The Manticoran Empire
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10506
Founded: Aug 21, 2015
Anarchy

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:26 pm

This is based on an RP I set up earlier (somewhat unsuccessfully) that I'm seeking to refresh. I'm here gauging interest.

It is 2016. The world is on a knife edge, dealing with international conflicts, terrorism, and growing ethnic strife. Will peace be maintained or will World War III begin? The world is yours to shape. Shape it wisely.

Alternate History: A woman is President of the United States since 2012, Palestine is recognized by the US and Israel, The People's Republic of China fell in 1992 after successful Tienanmen Square Protests in 1989, joining with Taiwan to form the Republic of China, Kurdistan is recognized by the UN and most of the world; Turkey, Iran, and Russia are the only real exceptions, and the fascist Golden Dawn party has come to power in Greece, due to the economic crisis in 2010.
For: Israel, Palestine, Kurdistan, American Nationalism, American citizens of Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and US Virgin Islands receiving a congressional vote and being allowed to vote for president, military, veterans before refugees, guns, pro choice, LGBT marriage, plural marriage, US Constitution, World Peace, Global Unity.

Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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Foundation Empire
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 102
Founded: May 08, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Foundation Empire » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:29 pm

About five years ago I set up an FT mystery-type RP, link here, and as that plot was never resolved, I'm interested in giving it a reboot. It's character-based, going from planet to planet asking questions and trying to discover a plot beneath otherwise mundane events that get progressively more sinister.

Mostly I'm just probing around to see if anyone would be interested in playing this sort of plot. Obviously it's not a military or truly political storyline; it's mostly world-exploration and mystery geared towards foreign detectives and investigators looking to cash in on rewards.

"PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this
narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempt-
ing to find a moral in it will be banished; persons
attempting to find a plot in it will be shot."

-Mark Twain

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Sjovenia
Senator
 
Posts: 4391
Founded: Jan 05, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Sjovenia » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:12 am

Hey guys, had an interest in a Medieval RP, was wondering if anybody would like to join? It would take place over the course of the 5th-15th century and the setting would be an NS version of the World. TG me if you are interested!
Leader: Autarch Ferdinand Tennfjord
Capital: Sova Mesto
National Animal: Tyto Owl (Barn Owl)
Currency: Tolar

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Athletes

Official Sjovene Youtube

Self Advertising

"No one loves a warrior until the enemy is at the gate."

"You know dying is often a cry for attention"

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Zocra
Diplomat
 
Posts: 874
Founded: Feb 21, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Zocra » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:00 pm

Your leader is impeached by the legislature for *insert reason here*.

While impeachment proceedings commence, half your leader's administration resigns.

Your leader gets a call from a neighboring country's king offering political asylum (because your leader is most definitely guilty) and a high position in government.

What now?
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Kolchecyistan
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 3
Founded: Mar 31, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Kolchecyistan » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:56 pm

During the final stages of the Kolchecyistani Civil War, the ousted government had just failed in their attempt to reclaim control of the country. As the counter-revolutionaries scattered into the civilian population, one rebel commander decided to make a vindictive last strike at the perpetrators of the successful coup.

It had been pure luck that such an apparently-easy target had made itself available so quickly. As soon as the sub was fully prepped for departure, that's when they would make their move...


So basically, it'd be RPing an attempted takeover of one of your nation's nuclear missile submarines, by a bitter former military officer and his men. The general prelude to the actual RP would be the soldiers seizing the sub and attempting to prep it for a launch, which would take time. The balance of forces and available equipment would obviously be heavily in favour of the defending nation.

PM me if you're at all interested in anything like this.
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Hetrica
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1452
Founded: Feb 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Hetrica » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:23 pm

Hi! In an upcoming RP me, two nations that I have invaded and some other nations will be involved with the social reform of my nation. Hetrica will undergo a new form of government, a government type that nobody I know has ever done. This form of government is a fascist democracy of sorts. The military is divided into a groups, Army, navy, airforce, space and police. All of those then divide into smaller groups, such as for the army they'll have artillery, tanks, soldiers, black ops e.t.c. Then in the top group will be the elected general's, admirals e.t.c. All being voted into power by the public with elected leaders of lower groups taking power of lower positions. Political freedoms and civil rights will remain and the economy will still be privatised. I am looking to the wider community on your opinion on wether or not it will work, if it needs changing or just a comment in general.

The glorious people of hetrica are greater than all others, and no matter the costs, they are put first.
Headline News: The Great General is now dead. DEFCON lowered to 1. Hetrican Bioweapon used by Unnamedland on Sjmick. Quarantine zone initiated. Admiral Major to take control. Military forces patrol the streets. Cans of Coka Calo are actually healthy says bribed doctor.

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