Stonewall Alliance Delegate Discussions (Members Only, IC)

[Oneracon]

"Equality for all."

The Stonewall Alliance is a civil rights organization that strives to achieve equal rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered peoples worldwide. By actively advocating LGBT rights and issues, the Stonewall Alliance works towards ending discrmination against LGBT citizens around the globe. The Stonewall Alliance is active in securing equal rights for those in the workplace, at local and national levels, and also in educating people about LGBT issues. By seeking to improve the lives of the international LGBT community, we reinforce our goal of achieving fundamental fairness and equality for all human beings.

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About Us

The Stonewall Alliance is an international organization that promotes LGBT and human rights around the world. The Stonewall Alliance maintains a large presence on the international level, actively campaigning for LGBT rights on a global scale. Regularly petitioning the World Assembly and governments, the Stonewall Alliance is not only an advocacy group, but also a political lobbying organization as well. The Stonewall Alliance is represented in 36 nations around the globe.

The founding tenets of the Alliance are based on several cornerstones, particulary several World Assembly Resolutions. All Stonewall Alliance member nations who are in the World Assembly should abide by the following regulations, which have been thoroughly researched and compiled by our resident WA Legal Attaché, Legate. Liu Ao-Khiao:

Section 2 of General Assembly Resolution #91, A Convention on Gender, stipulates that "no intersex, transgender or intergender person shall be considered diseased by the sole reason of being intersex, transgender or intergender." Additionally, Section 4 continues by stating that "no intersex, transgender or intergender person shall be forced to choose to fit in any gender." Furthermore, Section 5 concludes that "full recognition shall be given to gender changes & intersex/gender status in international/national personal documents, if they mention gender."

Section 1 of General Assembly Resolution #200, Foreign Marriage Recognition, "Requires every member state to provide every foreign marriage that meets all of the following conditions the same legal recognition as a domestic marriage: The marriage was performed legally under the jurisdiction of a foreign member state, and that marriage remains legally valid in that same foreign member state; The marriage does not violate World Assembly law; and The marriage would be legally valid if it had been performed domestically."

Article 3, Section A of General Assembly Resolution #16, the Sexual Privacy Act, stipulates that "no nation shall enact legislation prohibiting, criminalizing or otherwise regulating sexual acts between consenting individuals when practiced in the privacy of the home, or otherwise away from public exposure."

Article 1, Section A of General Assembly Resolution #35, the Charter of Civil Rights, stipulates that "all inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including ...sexual orientation or sexual identity."

General Assembly Resolution #15, the Freedom of Marriage Act opens with "CONVINCED that the union of two persons should be equally protected by the State regardless of gender or sexual orientation" then "DETERMINED to further the rights of persons that have been oppressed and discriminated against for ages". Article 3, Section A says that "no State shall restrict the right to enter into such unions to persons of a certain sex or sexual orientation, nor shall they require that they be of the same or different sex.", then b) "No State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects to unions of persons of the same or different sex."

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Secretary-General: Sir Charles Seydoux, GCBS (San Pellegrino Romana)

Deputy Secretary-General: TBA

Minister of International Cooperation:

Minister of Finance:

Minister of Economic Affairs: Little Duke Michaellus, Sérvór du Mastarch (Grittonia)

Minister of Public Information: Little Duke Michaellus, Sérvór du Mastarch (Grittonia)

World Assembly Legal Attaché: Lg. Liu Ao-Khiao (Phing Phong)

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(OOC: This is for discussions between Stonewall Alliance member states only, please sign up here if you are not a member of the Alliance yet.)

[New Matawan]

This is a good idea. We've got the main thread for signups and such, and this can kind of be our "IC" place.

[Oneracon]

This is a good idea. We've got the main thread for signups and such, and this can kind of be our "IC" place.

(OOC: That was the plan)

[Oneracon]

As representative of the Kingdom of Oneracon to the Stonewall Alliance, His Royal Majesty wishes me to convey his belief that the Stonewall Alliance should issue a statement on this issue: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=204642

Regards,

The Hon. Preston Forthwright, MHA
Minister of International Relations and NGO Coordination - Kingdom of Oneracon
Oneracon Delegate to the Stonewall Alliance

[Grittonia]

Official message of the Four-Party Semi-Dictatorship of Grittonia and it's territories of the Palumi Triangle, The Pirpir Island Group and Grottiponia Island
Drawn up and Signed by Sérvór Michaellus du Mastarch, Little Duke of Mastarch and Representative to the Stonewall Alliance

It's simply the same as Mizialand, all try to distract from their own issues inside the nation. Some try it by a phony legalization and some do it by making it criminal. The point is, these nations don't change unless they get invaded and propagandized. And since no one has the balls here to do that except us, as we're always roaring for a good fisticuffs, let's do it the easy way and just state a negative response to it, condemning it and such.

In the mean time, we should get more people in official Stonewall posts. The Grittonian people hereby nominate myself, Sérvór Michaellus du Mastarch, for a economic and a propaganda post, as two shots at a victory are always better than one. People that question my abilities for these or any other posts, I gladly invite you to visit me for some personal persuasion.

With love and respect,

Sérvór Michaellus du Mastarch,
Prostator in Sexual Persuasion, Professor in Propaganda and Little Duke of Mastarch

[Gaveo]

"On the issue on the fool that kills homosexuals what should we do? I believe anything diplomatic is out of the question, we must act through blood."
(President Roberto Garcia)

[Oneracon]

"On the issue on the fool that kills homosexuals what should we do? I believe anything diplomatic is out of the question, we must act through blood."
(President Roberto Garcia)

There is already a coalition of nations willing to go to war, but His Royal Majesty's Government remains unsure that violence is the answer.

[New Matawan]

The USCNM is entirely against violence to solve this issue. We don't think it, as well as most things, is worth the bloodshed. An official condemnation and collective trade sanctions should do the trick.

~Ambassador Mombourquette

[Gaveo]

"On the issue on the fool that kills homosexuals what should we do? I believe anything diplomatic is out of the question, we must act through blood."
(President Roberto Garcia)

There is already a coalition of nations willing to go to war, but His Royal Majesty's Government remains unsure that violence is the answer.

"There is no other way"

The USCNM is entirely against violence to solve this issue. We don't think it, as well as most things, is worth the bloodshed. An official condemnation and collective trade sanctions should do the trick.

~Ambassador Mombourquette

"But it won't it will result in more bloodshed for the homosexuals, bisexuals, and transexuals in the other nation. We have to act with force."

[The Quadruple Alliance]

"On the issue on the fool that kills homosexuals what should we do? I believe anything diplomatic is out of the question, we must act through blood."
(President Roberto Garcia)

"My word!! The nation in question may be barbaric, but that does not mean we must be as well!! We must challenge them to a debate and extend offers to diplomacy, instead of immediately sinking to their level of savagery!! We must conduct ourselves as gentlemen, lest our message is as ungentemanly, as those of our enemies."

-Sister Sheelus G. Iron-Eagle,
Quadruple Alliance Ambassador to the Stonewall Alliance

[New Matawan]

You know what, why don't we just hold a vote? Whichever option gets the most vote is what we do.

Diplomacy and trade sanctions: 1
Bloodshed and violence: 0
Other: 0

[Gaveo]

"On the issue on the fool that kills homosexuals what should we do? I believe anything diplomatic is out of the question, we must act through blood."
(President Roberto Garcia)

"My word!! The nation in question may be barbaric, but that does not mean we must be as well!! We must challenge them to a debate and extend offers to diplomacy, instead of immediately sinking to their level of savagery!! We must conduct ourselves as gentlemen, lest our message is as ungentemanly, as those of our enemies."

-Sister Sheelus G. Iron-Eagle,
Quadruple Alliance Ambassador to the Stonewall Alliance

"As said earlier, there is no other way! More people in will die if we wait!"
Presidente Roberto Garcia de Gaveo

[The Quadruple Alliance]

You know what, why don't we just hold a vote? Whichever option gets the most vote is what we do.

Diplomacy and trade sanctions: 1
Bloodshed and violence: 0
Other: 0

Quadruple Alliance Decorum votes Diplomacy Only, First.

[Gaveo]

You know what, why don't we just hold a vote? Whichever option gets the most vote is what we do.

Diplomacy and trade sanctions: 1
Bloodshed and violence: 0
Other: 0

"Intervention... Or in your words bloodshed and violence."

[Grittonia]

You know what, why don't we just hold a vote? Whichever option gets the most vote is what we do.

Diplomacy and trade sanctions: 1
Bloodshed and violence: 0
Other: 0

Who gave you the power to hold votes? If anyone is to hold votes or give out a official statement of the alliance, it should be SPR.

[Not as harshly meant as it sounds]

[Oneracon]

Why do we need to go for violence and bloodshed, I'm sure some members of the Alliance possess stealth aircraft and sea vessels. Why not attempt a non-violent (as possible) stealth evacuation?

His Royal Majesty's Government is willing to lend some of the Royal Coast Guard's Imperceptible-class stealth ships for this purpose (see: here)

[Gaveo]

Why do we need to go for violence and bloodshed, I'm sure some members of the Alliance possess stealth aircraft and sea vessels. Why not attempt a non-violent (as possible) stealth evacuation?

His Royal Majesty's Government is willing to lend some of the Royal Coast Guard's Imperceptible-class stealth ships for this purpose (see: here)

Thats actually sounds like a plan...

[Oneracon]

Thats actually sounds like a plan...

Well not to say that the Imperceptible-class ships aren't armed... but they'll only be used for self defense

[New Matawan]

Eh, I can agree to that.

[The Quadruple Alliance]

"Attempts at our nation's diplomacy has failed. We are now attempting to use subterfuge. Please do not be alarmed if any of ye intercept and decode any Q.A. diplomatic missives."

After a few seconds

"Actually, nevermind. Tamriela is not the type to accept aid, it seems, and an assassination attempt no longer seems viable. Since all of our personal attempts at diplomacy and chicanery has failed, we now back the proposed stealth rescue plan."

OOC: Heads up. This guy seems to be a bit of a godmodder...

[Oneracon]

OOC: Heads up. This guy seems to be a bit of a godmodder...

OOC: You don't say. Like how suddenly there are tourists from my country trapped there... Like any self-respecting Oneran would visit such a country

[The Quadruple Alliance]

OOC: Heads up. This guy seems to be a bit of a godmodder...

OOC: You don't say. Like how suddenly there are tourists from my country trapped there... Like any self-respecting Oneran would visit such a country

OOC: Exactly!! The guy's got a tourism score of -54, and he claims that there are over 500 of thy tourists there =|:}S

[Oneracon]

The Kingdom of Oneracon wishes to inquire if any other Alliance members are willing for a humanitarian mission.

[The Quadruple Alliance]

The Kingdom of Oneracon wishes to inquire if any other Alliance members are willing for a humanitarian mission.

"We art a third world nation. We could provide men to fight, but not transportation equipment. At least not for a stealth operation."

[Teddy Bear Republic]

OOC: Naturally, it's probably not best to get involved if such godmodding continues.

Although you probably know this already, stealth doesn't mean entirely invisible, since they can still see us coming, and radar cross-section doesn't disappear completely - it's just minimized. If we're detected, any such affront to their national sovereignty and incursion of their territory may be seen as an act of war, which would result in them responding in a violent manner, so blood's going to spill anyways. That's not to say that we can't use a stealth approach, it's just not a trump card by itself.

Needless to say, the TBRE still supports an armed intervention/raid, and also believes that such an action should be legitimized through the vote by a council. We would also be willing to support a neutral humanitarian intervention, through the Ministry of Refugian Affairs.

Regarding the charter / constitution of the alliance, would any others be interested in contributing to it? Like we've stated before, we'll be happy to write up a draft, but it would be more democratic (and admittedly, lessen our workload) if others could help. Sorry if I sound like I've given myself too much authority in this matter, or am wrong about there not being one in the first place - I just feel that a clear purpose or way of doing things would benefit.