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Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v. 2.0 -- CLOSED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Nukes?

Allow them and their use. Nuclear holocaust is inevitable. Opens possibility of post-apocalyptic RPs.
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Allow them but not their use. No nuclear holocaust, but nations can make empty threats.
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(Mish's plan) Allow their discovery, but not their use beyond initial tests, after which, the weaponized technology will be destroyed. Allows for Mish's research RP and for later nuclear power, but no nuclear weapons.
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Use alternative laws of physics that somehow prevent nuclear technology from functioning at all.
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Total votes : 173

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:25 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:Deutsch Allianz, the new alliance block. Open to all Germanic nations, promotes capitalism and federalism, and a distinct seperation of church and state. Course I'd have to work it out abit more, to make a true contender in the Vapor world. That and a charter to keep out racists and communists.

There is a difference between German & germanic.
German refers solely to Germans.
Germanic peoples refers to Scandinavians (Norwegians, Swedish, Danish, Icelanders, and Faroese), Germans, Austrians, Alemannic Swiss, Liechtensteiners, Luxembourgers, the Dutch, Flemings, Afrikaners, Frisians, the English and others who still speak languages derived from the ancestral Germanic dialects.


Which one sounds better the Germanische Allianz or the Deutsch Allianz?
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Gratia Infinita
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Postby Gratia Infinita » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:45 pm

Also, I would like to point out that the Fire and Madness IC thread is open to any nation that has interests in Southern Promethia. The events in here will form a basis for certain alliances...and hostilities, and just be fun.

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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:47 pm

Servoth wrote:Deutsch Allianz, the new alliance block. Open to all Germanic nations, promotes capitalism and federalism, and a distinct seperation of church and state. Course I'd have to work it out abit more, to make a true contender in the Vapor world. That and a charter to keep out racists and communists.

Why does there need to be an alliance of Germanic people? Are Germanic peoples under threat?

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Vitzenburg
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Postby Vitzenburg » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:54 pm

Well I'm not a neigh sayer like these other guys, I'll join the Deutsch Allianz!

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:57 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:Deutsch Allianz, the new alliance block. Open to all Germanic nations, promotes capitalism and federalism, and a distinct seperation of church and state. Course I'd have to work it out abit more, to make a true contender in the Vapor world. That and a charter to keep out racists and communists.

Why does there need to be an alliance of Germanic people? Are Germanic peoples under threat?


Why does there need to be a communist alliance, or a Christianity alliance, or a Pagan alliance? Because someone wanted one.

Vitzenburg wrote:Well I'm not a neigh sayer like these other guys, I'll join the Deutsch Allianz!


Thank you.
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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:01 pm

Servoth wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Why does there need to be an alliance of Germanic people? Are Germanic peoples under threat?


Why does there need to be a communist alliance, or a Christianity alliance, or a Pagan alliance? Because someone wanted one.

Vitzenburg wrote:Well I'm not a neigh sayer like these other guys, I'll join the Deutsch Allianz!


Thank you.


Said whom?

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:05 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Said whom?


I don't know, why did Sri Tschow need to have an Eastern conference with only communists and anti-westerners?
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:16 pm

Servoth wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Why does there need to be an alliance of Germanic people? Are Germanic peoples under threat?


Why does there need to be a communist alliance, or a Christianity alliance, or a Pagan alliance? Because someone wanted one.

Vitzenburg wrote:Well I'm not a neigh sayer like these other guys, I'll join the Deutsch Allianz!


Thank you.


I don't think there are Communist or Christian alliances.
A pagan alliance exists because Christendom is huge and threatening, and 'Pagandom' is small and stronger united. Therefore a pagan alliance to protect the few remaining pagan nations makes sense.

Pagan religions are under threat. Germanic peoples are not under threat. There is simply no need for an alliance of Germanic peoples.

An Anti-Communism Alliance/Pro-Capitalist Alliance would make sense. Communism & socialist ideas were on rise during the 1800s amongst the poor lower classes. Republics & wealth redistribution sounded like a good idea to many of the poor. 'tis threatening to the capitalist & monarchist orders in place in most nations.
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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:19 pm

Servoth wrote:
Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Said whom?


I don't know, why did Sri Tschow need to have an Eastern conference with only communists and anti-westerners?


Hmmm, i guess he's the only one who hate westerners. I'm what you'd consider communist however i don't hate westerners, I'm just distrustful of them. I mean, i don't have any bad relations with Fanaglia even though she's a westerner and I'm a communist-esque/eastern nation.
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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:24 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:
Why does there need to be a communist alliance, or a Christianity alliance, or a Pagan alliance? Because someone wanted one.



Thank you.


I don't think there are Communist or Christian alliances.
A pagan alliance exists because Christendom is huge and threatening, and 'Pagandom' is small and stronger united. Therefore a pagan alliance to protect the few remaining pagan nations makes sense.

Pagan religions are under threat. Germanic peoples are not under threat.


Fuck it. If you want to screw up my attempt at creating an alliance of Germanic nations then go on ahead. There will be no Deutsch Allianz, and I will not be joining in alliance or ally with any other nation until the war. Thank you for your time.
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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:32 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:-snip-

I edited my post.


Why exactly did you feel it was necessary to question my idea, then go back and suggest that I do exactly what I said in the first place of having an alliance of capitalists and federalists, that are against communists?!!??
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:33 pm

Servoth wrote:
Conscentia wrote:I edited my post.


Why exactly did you feel it was necessary to question my idea, then go back and suggest that I do exactly what I said in the first place of having an alliance of capitalists and federalists, that are against communists?!!??

I felt it was necessary to question an alliance of Germanic peoples. Not an alliance of pro-federalism capitalists against communism.
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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:37 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:
Why exactly did you feel it was necessary to question my idea, then go back and suggest that I do exactly what I said in the first place of having an alliance of capitalists and federalists, that are against communists?!!??

I felt it was necessary to question an alliance of Germanic peoples. Not an alliance of pro-federalism capitalists against communism.


The idea was to appeal to more than just that, but to Germanic nations who wouldn't support the other groups.
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:48 pm

Servoth wrote:
Conscentia wrote:I felt it was necessary to question an alliance of Germanic peoples. Not an alliance of pro-federalism capitalists against communism.


The idea was to appeal to more than just that, but to Germanic nations who wouldn't support the other groups.

But it locks out non-Germanic nations like Inoroth, "The Black Isles", & Novairia.
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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:50 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Servoth wrote:
The idea was to appeal to more than just that, but to Germanic nations who wouldn't support the other groups.

But it locks out non-Germanic nations like Inoroth, "The Black Isles", & Novairia.


Just forget it. I'll be the neutral and join no one, until the war.
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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:52 pm

I feel I should repost this:

I say that I have a large air and naval force because I'm an island, and it would make quite a lot of sense for my air and naval units to see more development, leaving the ground force out in the cold.

You haven't seen my navy... I guess I never put it up, but now's a good time.

Dragon-Class Destroyer

Minotaur-Class Battleship

Fortress-Class Ironclad

Leviathan-Class Dreadnought

Defender-Class Heavy Ironclad

Some of my navy.
"Asking NSG about military strategy is like asking Stephen Hawking about running hurdles."~Blazedtown

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"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

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Social Libertarian|Authoritarian: -6.87
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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:14 pm

Sri Tschow wrote:I feel I should repost this:

I say that I have a large air and naval force because I'm an island, and it would make quite a lot of sense for my air and naval units to see more development, leaving the ground force out in the cold.

You haven't seen my navy... I guess I never put it up, but now's a good time.

Dragon-Class Destroyer

Minotaur-Class Battleship

Fortress-Class Ironclad

Leviathan-Class Dreadnought

Defender-Class Heavy Ironclad

Some of my navy.


I just found out i have an ingrown toenail. C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.

No seriously, i have one that's slowly going on in the beginning stage. what should i do?


IC for this OOC: ships are great an all, but landships tis nice too.

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:22 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
I just found out i have an ingrown toenail. C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.

No seriously, i have one that's slowly going on in the beginning stage. what should i do?



Grind it off, use nail clippers, go to the doctor?
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Fanaglia
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Postby Fanaglia » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:27 pm

Servoth wrote:
Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
I just found out i have an ingrown toenail. C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.

No seriously, i have one that's slowly going on in the beginning stage. what should i do?



Grind it off, use nail clippers, go to the doctor?


Kill it with fire?

But seriously, I usually just force a blade under it to lift the edge of the nail up above the side of the nail bed. Just make sure you wipe the knife with alcohol first.
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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:32 pm

Servoth wrote:
Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
I just found out i have an ingrown toenail. C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.

No seriously, i have one that's slowly going on in the beginning stage. what should i do?



Grind it off, use nail clippers, go to the doctor?


Planning to do that tomarrow after school.

For Fanaglia, i was going to do that, however i don't want the pus (which is minimal but hanging on to the side of the nail) to splat/ get into pockets of skin which i can't see. it's my fault since i cut it too much (i like my nail to be without rough scratchy cuts which is what usually happens with my left big toenail so i overdid it. I never noticed until now because i chose to cut my nail today) and so hopefully it isn't at a bad stage right now.

I'm going to try a salt bath to kill off some germs for the meantime. I just wanted some hints on what else to do.

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Vitzenburg
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Postby Vitzenburg » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:38 pm

Awwwww, no germanic alliance... cuz yknow, people sharing a common cultural heritage don't really need a reason to ally themselves with one another...

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:39 pm

Sorry to hear about your injury, Cyprum. I'll just look up how to treat it on Web MD and... OMG, YOU'VE GOT CANCER!!!
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Postby Mishmahig » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:40 pm

Well, this is an awkward time to return to the thread. I'll make a detailed post on the history here in a little bit. How long ago was the Roth Empire?

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:42 pm

Vitzenburg wrote:Awwwww, no germanic alliance... cuz yknow, people sharing a common cultural heritage don't really need a reason to ally themselves with one another...


According to Conscentia. I tried to make it work for Germanic nations but no. Give me enough support and I'll reconsider rebuilding the the Deutsch Allianz, making sure that Conscentia is not allowed for particular reasons.
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