Argument Thread OOC Future Tech Only

[Strykla]

Noooo tentacle hentai

Didja' have to go there? Don't encourage him man!
Besides, how are you going to fit an anti-ship weapo- Actually,... I'm going to stop right here. With a warning and a ban: This is not Japan. Japan or Japanese nations are hereby banned from using this tech.

All I'm saying is, the potential for misuse is too great. BAN THIS SICK FILTH!

[Arteria Zoness]

Hater! You're just jealous of my tentacled brilliance! Hail! Bask in the radiance of my Uber Subs and their tendrils of brilliant black steel!
Tremble before my wrath, for the righteous crushing fury of Cephalopodian superiority is upon thee!

[Strykla]

Hater! You're just jealous of my tentacled brilliance! Hail! Bask in the radiance of my Uber Subs and their tendrils of brilliant black steel!
Tremble before my wrath, for the righteous crushing fury of Cephalopodian superiority is upon thee!

NOOO

[Thrashia]

Taggedly

[The Fedral Union]

So, whats the general speed of everyone's FTL drives?

[The 44th Indp Legion]

So, whats the general speed of everyone's FTL drives?

Phase-Jump/wormhole tech usually is (near-)instantaneous, but is normally limited in destinations in via a network-like fashion.
hypersapce-y stuff usually just goes at some multiple of C while throwing time dialation and such out of the window for ease of use and roleplay logic.

as for the stuff I use:
Hopskotch tech can propel ships at speeds of 5-200c for up to about a light-year, but causes structural damage relative to the speed used and the distance travelled.
Rift travel cares not for the distance when it comes to the time required to complete a single rift-in/out sequence. However, each sequence has a limit in how far it can go, and the drives must be (lengthily) recalibrated after each sequence.

[The Akasha Colony]

So, whats the general speed of everyone's FTL drives?

At the incredible speed of plot!

Not really a joke, since that's how fast they end up being regardless of the figures I've calculated (which are quite fast). Of course, there are also a half dozen different kinds in service so that's another factor.

[Vocenae]

Exactly. No faster than the story and your opponent agree to.

[The 44th Indp Legion]

Exactly. No faster than the story and your opponent agree to.

indeed. however, it is still nice to have a lore explanation for explaining such things ICly.

[Crucesignatorum]

Anyone have a link to the mech thread about why they dont work? I am trying to figure out why legged mechs apparently dont work, even though BigDog has four legs and does work. I am just confused haha.

Anyway, link anyone? I can't find it.

[Alexzonya]

Eh, I have two types of FTL.

My Origami Drives only work in areas where I'm familiar with the stellar geography and are relatively static, but are near-instantaneous regardless of distance. They also eat a large amount of energy, so a ship coming off an Origami jump isn't in an optimal combat position.

My Slipspace Drives, by contrast, work everywhere, but are slower and less reliable. The Slipspace Drives, since they are non-instantaneous, move at the speed of plot (although intra-system jumps are pretty much instantaneous anyway), and also eat far less energy. Thus, when jumping into combat, my ships tend to use their Slipspace Drives.

[The Akasha Colony]

Anyone have a link to the mech thread about why they dont work? I am trying to figure out why legged mechs apparently dont work, even though BigDog has four legs and does work. I am just confused haha.

Anyway, link anyone? I can't find it.

Which thread did you mean? In any event, the problem isn't that mechs are physically incapable of being built, they 'don't work' in that they are less practical, more expensive, and more vulnerable relative to conventional vehicles under almost every circumstance. At small-scale, infantry levels there may be some uses for legged vehicles with more advanced technology, but not in the traditional mech depiction as being a replacement for tanks or other armored vehicles.

[Crucesignatorum]

I was thinking of using something of like the BigDog as the infantry, they are just about the only legged mech I would have. Other than that it is all pretty much tracks. Maybe some fancy malleable track to fit to extreme terrain or something.

[The Akasha Colony]

I was thinking of using something of like the BigDog as the infantry, they are just about the only legged mech I would have. Other than that it is all pretty much tracks. Maybe some fancy malleable track to fit to extreme terrain or something.

BigDog itself is nowhere near ready for such purposes. Given a decade more development, it may be more useful as a combat supplement for infantry, but at the moment, it's still too fragile and noisy to see field use. Any enemy with working ears is going to hear that lawnmower engine coming at them from a mile away, and it'll still need to be either directly or remotely guided.

[Crucesignatorum]

BigDog itself is nowhere near ready for such purposes. Given a decade more development, it may be more useful as a combat supplement for infantry, but at the moment, it's still too fragile and noisy to see field use. Any enemy with working ears is going to hear that lawnmower engine coming at them from a mile away, and it'll still need to be either directly or remotely guided.

Well I was figuring on using it in a fairly far along future tech base, where there would've been at least a couple hundred years to develop it. And to solve the noise issue I was thinking of an electric motor with some sort of super capacitor, something really energy dense and quick charging.

[Inutoland]

So, whats the general speed of everyone's FTL drives?

I have a quasi-wormhole based drive, the "K-Drive", capable of near-instantaneous transit between two points anywhere from a few hundred metres apart to multiple lightyears distant. The catch is that this is the only drive system we use, apart from ion-drive manoeuvring thrusters for docking and the like, and it exhibits "jump lag" between transits, proportional to the distance travelled.

Which means that my ships can get nearly anywhere within the maximum jump radius of the drive fairly quickly, but they may be totally immobilised on the far end for anything up to a few hours, or even days in extreme cases.

[Bajireyn]

Anyone have a link to the mech thread about why they dont work? I am trying to figure out why legged mechs apparently dont work, even though BigDog has four legs and does work. I am just confused haha.

Anyway, link anyone? I can't find it.

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5347

You mean this?

[SquareDisc City]

My usual drive is a warp drive, vaguely based on Star Trek. In the NSverse, its speeds are somewhat inconsistent due to shear-thinning subspace, a phenomenon where the faster other nations' craft are travelling at FTL (even if their drives don't use subspace), the faster UPT warp drives can propel their craft. My drives are unaffected by natural gravity.

I'm planning on bringing in a drive that offers instantaneous travel, even over intergalactic distances, but with some severe restrictions on its usage - few locations will be accessible, it'll lack precision for long-distance work, and sometimes it just won't be usable at all.

[Mini Miehm]

So, before I sidetrack someones intro with an OOC rant, I'm going to post this here, and link the....person...to this thread.

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Unread postby Demagan Empire » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:07 am
OOC: The simplicity of the Dark Star device in moderate detail so as to explain not only how it works but why its a diabolical weapon.

Encased in a 7 meter wide shell is a Zero Point Energy Matrix suspending a 15 Megaton Antimatter charge. Uniquely designed so as to Implode rather than explode, upon implosion the blast compresses a deuterium/dark matter core of roughly about 4 inches in diameter. This collapse creates a momentary singularity of definite size. Having a gravitational and radiological effect out to a limit of 30 feet.. beyond being absolutely negligible. Once said singularity is achieved the real power of the Device goes into effect. The Dark Matter is converted to Dark Energy and radiated into obviously a field surrounding the no longer "inert" munition. This Dark Energy Field is conductive of obviously dark energy and is supplied with a Field Negation Charge from a Mass Effect Generator in the munition.

This causes the singularity which has a mass of roughly 5 pounds, to have the effect of a black hole with a diameter of effect of 200,000 Km.

Meaning if your beyond 100,000 Km from point zero of the singularity... your ship could at most suffer some structural warp or radiological side effects based upon proximity, if your inside that range.. your far too close to the event horizon to escape without the use of some emergency jump or FTL acceleration, keep in mind a large portion of the ship would be damaged significantly.. Its also not used as a Anti Ship or Anti Fleet weapon although it will work quite well against fleets.. Its an Anti Planetary or Anti Stellar weapon.

Dont forget, Not every culture has your technological perspective or limitations.. Necron have been playing with Dark Matter and Mass Effect Fields for over 4 centuries


Discuss and mutilate this nonsense at your leisure.

[SquareDisc City]

Technobabble veneer on an artificial black hole. I'd be minded to suggest the stated size of the black hole is excessive - if the 200,000 km figure is the event horizon diameter, that's the size of a natural black hole of about 30 thousand solar masses.

[The 44th Indp Legion]

So, before I sidetrack someones intro with an OOC rant, I'm going to post this here, and link the....person...to this thread.

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Discuss and mutilate this nonsense at your leisure.

...
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I think I just had an aneurysm.
/rant
-'Zero Point energy' is basicly just random photons bouncing on the surface of something, it pulls stuff together, I see no way how this could be applied to containing antimatter (which would require a 'push' not a 'pull')
-Imploding antimatter (I mean really, a shaped charge could be handwaved into explaining this, but that's really stretching it)
-Dark matter being converted into Dark energy...which is useful how? if at all possible. Currently dark energy is best defined as 'not dark matter, not really energy, not matter, but still something'
-Said dark energy being used for ...something very ill-defined. Furthermore, dark energy is more likely to decrease the potency of a black hole rather than increase it - after all, it is the cause of the semi-inexplicable force which continues to accelerate the expansion of the universe, not something which slows the expansion down as this black hole amplifying-somethingemajiggy would suggest.
-AFAIK, the mass effect reduces one's 'resistance to acceleration' (id est, mass), which by doing so also also enables FTL travel because of they actually thought it through. This would decrease the effect of a black hole if such a field is applied to it, if that is possible to begin with.
- if under 100.00km is 'too close to the event horizon', then...what is it that's at 100.00km?
-The gravitational pull of a black hole is unlikely to cause structural damage on an object the size of a ship (unless they are something like the size of a planet or whatever). The whole 'your atoms will get ripped apart' bit is kinda true - but these effects don't start being deadly until you're far beyond the vent horizon.
-That is, if you actually manage to make it past the vent horizon without being reduced to subatomic dust by the firewall.
- (hawking) Radation that should supposedly eminate from a black hole, disregarding quasar-effects (which are concentrated into two beams, not an omnidirectional thing) is mild at best. Certainly several orders of magnitude weaker than that of any star. (if this had not been the case, we would already have detected such radiation)
./rant

[Sertian]

Oh hey guys.

[Vernii]

Oh hey guys.

Ooo, welcome back. That whole Riah matter still needs resolving btw. ; )

[Terraius]

Anyone have a link to the mech thread about why they dont work? I am trying to figure out why legged mechs apparently dont work, even though BigDog has four legs and does work. I am just confused haha.

Anyway, link anyone? I can't find it.

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5347

You mean this?

Are we really measuring FT's feasibility by draftroom now?

[Bajireyn]

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5347

You mean this?

Are we really measuring FT's feasibility by draftroom now?

I'm not,I just thought that was the article he was referring to.