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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:03 am

I need a name for a Catholic criminal hate group, similar to the KKK. I currently want to call it the Sacred Cross (SC), although I'm unsure if this is offensive. The name must also be something that a Catholic group would realistically choose. Any suggestions?
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Postby Pharthan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:34 am

West Aurelia wrote:I need a name for a Catholic criminal hate group, similar to the KKK. I currently want to call it the Sacred Cross (SC), although I'm unsure if this is offensive. The name must also be something that a Catholic group would realistically choose. Any suggestions?

It's going to offend Catholics no matter what you choose, just as athiests might get offended if you had a group aimed at attacking all religions.

Are they more militant or just hateful and commuting KKK like acts? In my experience the more zealous fundamentalists with little actual biblical knowledge either manage to find one little biblical reference with or without context, like, I dunno, "Pillar of Fire" or " Sword and Shield" or whatnot, whereas a more levelheaded, practicing religious group - though they obviously wouldn't commit these acts if they actually practiced Christianity - would pick something more like Sacred Cross or something more docile.
If they are highly political they might have a wise enough leader to pick something more "Family friendly" though.
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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:51 am

Pharthan wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:I need a name for a Catholic criminal hate group, similar to the KKK. I currently want to call it the Sacred Cross (SC), although I'm unsure if this is offensive. The name must also be something that a Catholic group would realistically choose. Any suggestions?

It's going to offend Catholics no matter what you choose, just as athiests might get offended if you had a group aimed at attacking all religions.

Are they more militant or just hateful and commuting KKK like acts? In my experience the more zealous fundamentalists with little actual biblical knowledge either manage to find one little biblical reference with or without context, like, I dunno, "Pillar of Fire" or " Sword and Shield" or whatnot, whereas a more levelheaded, practicing religious group - though they obviously wouldn't commit these acts if they actually practiced Christianity - would pick something more like Sacred Cross or something more docile.
If they are highly political they might have a wise enough leader to pick something more "Family friendly" though.


They have been designated as a criminal group by the Department of Justice and are far more militant than the KKK (although they wouldn't be considered a terrorist group). And no, they aren't highly political.

If it's too offensive, or a suitable name can't be found, I'm completely fine with having a nameless group.
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Postby Pharthan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:09 am

West Aurelia wrote:
Pharthan wrote:It's going to offend Catholics no matter what you choose, just as athiests might get offended if you had a group aimed at attacking all religions.

Are they more militant or just hateful and commuting KKK like acts? In my experience the more zealous fundamentalists with little actual biblical knowledge either manage to find one little biblical reference with or without context, like, I dunno, "Pillar of Fire" or " Sword and Shield" or whatnot, whereas a more levelheaded, practicing religious group - though they obviously wouldn't commit these acts if they actually practiced Christianity - would pick something more like Sacred Cross or something more docile.
If they are highly political they might have a wise enough leader to pick something more "Family friendly" though.


They have been designated as a criminal group by the Department of Justice and are far more militant than the KKK (although they wouldn't be considered a terrorist group). And no, they aren't highly political.

If it's too offensive, or a suitable name can't be found, I'm completely fine with having a nameless group.

The name Sacred Cross wouldn't be too offensive. I myself am Protestant, not catholic, so I can't be one hundred percent sure, but you'd probably have to search a bit more to find something offensive. Anything with the name Christ or Jesus in it, or possibly "Holy" could be over the line, but most wouldn't care.
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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:16 am

Pharthan wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:
They have been designated as a criminal group by the Department of Justice and are far more militant than the KKK (although they wouldn't be considered a terrorist group). And no, they aren't highly political.

If it's too offensive, or a suitable name can't be found, I'm completely fine with having a nameless group.

The name Sacred Cross wouldn't be too offensive. I myself am Protestant, not catholic, so I can't be one hundred percent sure, but you'd probably have to search a bit more to find something offensive. Anything with the name Christ or Jesus in it, or possibly "Holy" could be over the line, but most wouldn't care.


A quick Google search revealed that the name has already been taken by an Anglican order, so that rules it out. I may end up choosing a name that doesn't reference Catholicism at all.

Anyway, thanks for your response.
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Postby Zhongguoaodaliya » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:18 pm

Hello again,

I've been wondering recently about how to get involved in someone else's RP. I know the basic rules and conventions, but are just wondering whether it is a good idea to give minor support to a small, new nation that's probably another civil war or terrorist attack scenario?

Any advice for that?
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:21 pm

Pharthan wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:I need a name for a Catholic criminal hate group, similar to the KKK. I currently want to call it the Sacred Cross (SC), although I'm unsure if this is offensive. The name must also be something that a Catholic group would realistically choose. Any suggestions?

It's going to offend Catholics no matter what you choose, just as athiests might get offended if you had a group aimed at attacking all religions.

Are they more militant or just hateful and commuting KKK like acts? In my experience the more zealous fundamentalists with little actual biblical knowledge either manage to find one little biblical reference with or without context, like, I dunno, "Pillar of Fire" or " Sword and Shield" or whatnot, whereas a more levelheaded, practicing religious group - though they obviously wouldn't commit these acts if they actually practiced Christianity - would pick something more like Sacred Cross or something more docile.
If they are highly political they might have a wise enough leader to pick something more "Family friendly" though.

Atheists would be "offended if you had a group aimed at attacking all religions"?

I'm an atheist and I would not be offended at all, as long as each one is persecuted equally.
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Postby Stahn » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:59 am

I am agnostic. I don't believe in persecution but I am also not completely sure that it doesn't exist either.

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Postby Kylarnatia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:51 am

Zhongguoaodaliya wrote:Hello again,

I've been wondering recently about how to get involved in someone else's RP. I know the basic rules and conventions, but are just wondering whether it is a good idea to give minor support to a small, new nation that's probably another civil war or terrorist attack scenario?

Any advice for that?


Talk with the player in question about their roleplay, see if they're open to your participation, and see if you can figure out with them what the best way for your nation to get involved is. At the end of the day, the only one who's going to know enough about their nation in order to determine whether it's worth getting involved is them, so they're the ones you should be asking.
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Postby Astholm » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:43 pm

I have a RP here which centres around a hostage situation, however, what makes it different is it covers two countries, the building it is in straddles the border.

How could I make this workable? Is the premise interesting enough?

I've left things like the bordering nation etc. to be decided, since I'm building a canon as it is, but what do you think?
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Postby Potsburg » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:40 pm

West Aurelia wrote:I need a name for a Catholic criminal hate group, similar to the KKK. I currently want to call it the Sacred Cross (SC), although I'm unsure if this is offensive. The name must also be something that a Catholic group would realistically choose. Any suggestions?


I have a couple of ideas. The key to making it non-offensive is to A) don't make the character two dimensional and B) Make it clear they are not representatives of mainstream or even traditionalist Catholics. Anyway, what you should name your group depends on the nature of said group. Are they a lobbying group? a armed militant group etc. Now, the KKK is a secret society that regularly uses violence (although more historically then recently) So the Catholic version of the KKK (the KKK is staunchly anti-catholic) would I think choose a name that flouts their Catholicity. Something that refers to devotion to Mary and Saints. Using the term knights is also good, as that alludes to the KKK. Religious orders are still common in Catholicism, so it would make sense to mimic the names of those groups.

Something like the Most Sacred Knights of Our Lady of the Sword. You may want to have a reference to nationalism, if they are nationalist, or whatever their values are. You could call them the True Knights etc. if they are primarily concerned with opposition to other more moderate Catholics.
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Postby Rhodevus » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:27 pm

Astholm wrote:I have a RP here which centres around a hostage situation, however, what makes it different is it covers two countries, the building it is in straddles the border.

How could I make this workable? Is the premise interesting enough?

I've left things like the bordering nation etc. to be decided, since I'm building a canon as it is, but what do you think?


Reading over your OP, I may be able to pick out a few reasons why people are not flocking to your banner (so to speak). The idea that the building straddles two different countries is unique, but that is it. Why does it matter that it lies on a border? Will it affect how people inside react to hostage situations?

The main premise that you have is that there are hostages in a building. That is it. There needs to be a catch, or something that can liven it up. Lengthen the OP a bit to include reactions of people. Explain what you want to do/accomplish in the thread.

From personal experience with terrorist RPs and hostage crisis', try to add a twist to it. Mine was that instead of playing as the hostages, people played as their body guards trying to save them.

Hostage situation RPs tend to be difficult to gain interest for (from my experience), but once they do, they generally do very well. So again to recap, lengthen the OP, explain what you want to do in the RP (general overview) and finally try to add a twist to the normal scenario.
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Postby Jenrak » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:02 pm

Astholm wrote:I have a RP here which centres around a hostage situation, however, what makes it different is it covers two countries, the building it is in straddles the border.

How could I make this workable? Is the premise interesting enough?

I've left things like the bordering nation etc. to be decided, since I'm building a canon as it is, but what do you think?


Have you tried asking a few friends? Sometimes signups are momentum-based.

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Postby Zhongguoaodaliya » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:03 am

Kylarnatia wrote:
Zhongguoaodaliya wrote:Hello again,

I've been wondering recently about how to get involved in someone else's RP. I know the basic rules and conventions, but are just wondering whether it is a good idea to give minor support to a small, new nation that's probably another civil war or terrorist attack scenario?

Any advice for that?


Talk with the player in question about their roleplay, see if they're open to your participation, and see if you can figure out with them what the best way for your nation to get involved is. At the end of the day, the only one who's going to know enough about their nation in order to determine whether it's worth getting involved is them, so they're the ones you should be asking.


Ahhhh, ok. Thank you!
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Postby Vancon » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:17 am

Zhongguoaodaliya wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
Talk with the player in question about their roleplay, see if they're open to your participation, and see if you can figure out with them what the best way for your nation to get involved is. At the end of the day, the only one who's going to know enough about their nation in order to determine whether it's worth getting involved is them, so they're the ones you should be asking.


Ahhhh, ok. Thank you!

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Postby Draica » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:25 pm

Am I a good rper? Here is one of my posts

Anything to work on?
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Postby Insaeldor » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:03 am

Draica wrote:Am I a good rper? Here is one of my posts

Anything to work on?

Substance, you need more substance. You've got detail and the like but it to little and what you do have is good. Add more things like sensor details (possibly one of if not most importent parts or writing narativly) and add in things like internal monologues and more detail conversations between your characters.

A lot of the post you have could be 3 even 4 times as long given these little additives. These are just my suggestions however and as a person who typically RP's in the first person you can modify it to fit what you need for your typical style.
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:14 am

Adding to Insaeldor, you can provide a background to your character. By describing that person's history, their motivations, and similar details you can make us feel sympathetic towards the character, or you can make us dislike the character. If done well, readers can become emotionally invested in your story.
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Postby Sunset » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:09 am

I also recently wanted to create an RP about art, a new element of Toopoxican society becomes a worldwide smash or the like, but I found it lacked purpose or direction, is it essential to have these things when creating an RP?


No, not necessarily. It depends on if you want to RP with other people or not, and I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes you can write for the sake of writing, to build background, to flesh out ideas in a neutral environment. Sometimes you'll want to write and just see where things go without having someone else nudge things or even steer them in one direction or another.

I try to write one post, every day, even when I'm in the depths of the WoWCrack just to keep things flowing and ideas percolating. Writing up something about a new artist, or a pseudo-news documentary about such, or similar is just that kind of 'brewing' that I like to do. And you never know when you'll have something like that bleed over into a full-scale role-play. It can also be the start of a good factbook. So, write, see where it takes you, and at worse it becomes part of your nation's background color.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:05 am

What is the forum policy on what should and should not be tagged mature at risk of bannings?
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Postby Oppressorion » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:12 am

Vogega wrote:What do all the buttons mean when you're posting? They are on top of where ypu type.

They're BBCodes, which offer text formatting - bold, italic, urls, colours, and so on. Simply highlight the text you want to affect, and click the right button.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:19 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:What is the forum policy on what should and should not be tagged mature at risk of bannings?

Tagging material as "mature" doesn't protect you against banning. If it's "mature" enough to deserve that label then it's probably forbidden outright, whether with or without the label.

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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:01 am

Oppressorion wrote:
Vogega wrote:What do all the buttons mean when you're posting? They are on top of where ypu type.

They're BBCodes, which offer text formatting - bold, italic, urls, colours, and so on. Simply highlight the text you want to affect, and click the right button.

This thread should also help out a lot
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:46 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:What is the forum policy on what should and should not be tagged mature at risk of bannings?

Tagging material as "mature" doesn't protect you against banning. If it's "mature" enough to deserve that label then it's probably forbidden outright, whether with or without the label.

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I apologise, I have just occasionally seen a "Mature" label added to certain threads and thought it had some official grounding. No, it seems what I was inquiring about will be within limits.
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