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Postby New Reutlingen » Fri May 15, 2015 2:23 pm

How would one go about setting up an intelligence agency? I get the idea of reporting things that are possibly going to happen in the future, but it really feels like metagaming.

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Postby Lamoni » Fri May 15, 2015 2:40 pm

New Reutlingen wrote:How would one go about setting up an intelligence agency? I get the idea of reporting things that are possibly going to happen in the future, but it really feels like metagaming.


This is an area where you will be doing a lot of OOC discussion and negotiation with the affected other player (s) about what you can or cannot have your Intel agency know/say. That will prevent most calls of metagaming.
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Postby New Reutlingen » Fri May 15, 2015 6:02 pm

Lamoni wrote:
New Reutlingen wrote:How would one go about setting up an intelligence agency? I get the idea of reporting things that are possibly going to happen in the future, but it really feels like metagaming.


This is an area where you will be doing a lot of OOC discussion and negotiation with the affected other player (s) about what you can or cannot have your Intel agency know/say. That will prevent most calls of metagaming.


Alright, thanks Lamoni!

One more stupid question. I'm not sure if I should be posting this here, or in the factbook questions section. I think it could be applied to both threads.

How would I go about setting up an embassy, and what are they for other than encouraging discussion between players on the forums?

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri May 15, 2015 6:23 pm

How would I RP me dealing with a nation breaking conditions that I set out for them in their last RP? Basically:

I threatened to invade them, then retconned that to terms they had to follow. The terms had to do with executions. They then violated those terms. How should I go about this? :twisted:
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Postby Vancon » Fri May 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:How would I RP me dealing with a nation breaking conditions that I set out for them in their last RP? Basically:

I threatened to invade them, then retconned that to terms they had to follow. The terms had to do with executions. They then violated those terms. How should I go about this? :twisted:

If both RPs are in the same timeline and universe, then mention it to their soldiers/officers/boss and let the shitstorm snowball begin.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri May 15, 2015 6:26 pm

Vancon wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:How would I RP me dealing with a nation breaking conditions that I set out for them in their last RP? Basically:

I threatened to invade them, then retconned that to terms they had to follow. The terms had to do with executions. They then violated those terms. How should I go about this? :twisted:

If both RPs are in the same timeline and universe, then mention it to their soldiers/officers/boss and let the shitstorm snowball begin.

They both involve the same OP. I really don't want to have to use my precious supply of nukes on them.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri May 15, 2015 6:56 pm

New Reutlingen wrote:
Lamoni wrote:
This is an area where you will be doing a lot of OOC discussion and negotiation with the affected other player (s) about what you can or cannot have your Intel agency know/say. That will prevent most calls of metagaming.


Alright, thanks Lamoni!

One more stupid question. I'm not sure if I should be posting this here, or in the factbook questions section. I think it could be applied to both threads.

How would I go about setting up an embassy, and what are they for other than encouraging discussion between players on the forums?


You're welcome.

As for embassy threads, those go in F&NI, IIRC. One thing that i've seen people do with that kind of thread is to invite everyone who has an embassy to certain threads like parties, galas, and the like, or using them to expand the number of people that they RP with.
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Postby Tiami » Fri May 15, 2015 7:15 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Vancon wrote:If both RPs are in the same timeline and universe, then mention it to their soldiers/officers/boss and let the shitstorm snowball begin.

They both involve the same OP. I really don't want to have to use my precious supply of nukes on them.

For future knowledge, I would advise against ever using nuclear weapons given the propensity of the RPers in said RP generally lack the skill or willpower to properly RP a nuclear attack. For many younger nations, nuclear assets are seen as the do-it-all weapon. To answer with a nuke for them is to answer any threat with. Nuclear weapons take the joy out of worldbuilding and creating a story that will pique the interest of the readers of the thread.

I am in no means saying not to use nuclear weapons. I Am merely advising against its usage. Only in accordance with the other RPers consent and having the attack properly planned, should their usage ever be considered in a RP environment. Ask yourself: what is the best storyline for me- nukes or something else? RP should never be about winning. It should be about the story and the people involved. To me and many other RPers, nuclear weapons are a winner's tool. Besides, being on the losing end offers more excitement in the long run, in my opinion.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 16, 2015 9:49 am

Mind you, RPing the consequences to a society that has engaged in nuclear war is very interesting.

If, yknow, you actually bother to do it.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat May 16, 2015 9:50 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Mind you, RPing the consequences to a society that has engaged in nuclear war is very interesting.

If, yknow, you actually bother to do it.

I won't nuke them. I probably have the resources to deal with a nation that was founded two weeks ago ;)
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Postby The Electric Skull » Wed May 27, 2015 6:48 am

Uh, okay, I have read through this all,a nd all of it is good and well, but I still do not have any idea what the hell Role-Playing is....
I am really confused, please help me somebody!!!!

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Postby Dyelli Beybi » Wed May 27, 2015 7:03 am

RP stands for Role Play, basically its acting.

Most people start out be acting out the role of your National leader.

Then you can act out Government departments, the military etc.

Then there is 'character RP' which is acting out the life of one our your random denizens. They could be a random mook in the army or the King or whoever. If something is flagged as character RP the expectations for the level of storytelling will usually be higher, though this is not always the case.

There are heaps of RP threads on the forum, just pop into a few and see what people are doing.

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Postby Aquitayne » Wed May 27, 2015 7:40 am

The Electric Skull wrote:Uh, okay, I have read through this all,a nd all of it is good and well, but I still do not have any idea what the hell Role-Playing is....
I am really confused, please help me somebody!!!!


Roleplaying is the act of playing out a role (hence Roleplaying) within a story. In NationStates, this can mean anything from a Head of State (President, Dictator, Regime, etc) to a regular folk caught in the midst of an economic downturn or catastrophic natural disaster or one whom is caught in the middle of an invading foe.

NationStates' beauty derives from its ability to be anything and nothing at the same time. You will not find game mechanics that tell you how many soldiers you have, how many people you have, how much money you have. You have to decide all of these things yourself, and I urge you to look at the many, many guides here on International Incidents and GE&T to get a feel for how the game works, and avoid trackers like NSTracker and the like.

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Postby Rhodevus » Wed May 27, 2015 8:42 am

The Electric Skull wrote:Uh, okay, I have read through this all,a nd all of it is good and well, but I still do not have any idea what the hell Role-Playing is....
I am really confused, please help me somebody!!!!


How I like to think of Roleplaying, is that it basically is telling a story, but from multiple points of view. Each person writes a single chapter of the story from your own personal character's point of view (a character can be a person, or even the entire country) and then another person rights another chapter from their character's point of view. Each person builds on the other, creating a story
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Postby Abserdia » Wed May 27, 2015 3:20 pm

The Electric Skull wrote:Uh, okay, I have read through this all,a nd all of it is good and well, but I still do not have any idea what the hell Role-Playing is....
I am really confused, please help me somebody!!!!

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Postby Grand Nicholia » Sun May 31, 2015 7:27 pm

Does grave digging count if it is done by the original poster?
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Postby Vancon » Sun May 31, 2015 7:28 pm

Grand Nicholia wrote:Does grave digging count if it is done by the original poster?

Pretty much. If you want to bring back up a topic, you could reboot it, but if it died it probably did so for a reason.
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Postby Grand Nicholia » Sun May 31, 2015 7:28 pm

Vancon wrote:
Grand Nicholia wrote:Does grave digging count if it is done by the original poster?

Pretty much. If you want to bring back up a topic, you could reboot it, but if it died it probably did so for a reason.

Ok, just wondering.
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Postby Vancon » Sun May 31, 2015 7:33 pm

Grand Nicholia wrote:
Vancon wrote:Pretty much. If you want to bring back up a topic, you could reboot it, but if it died it probably did so for a reason.

Ok, just wondering.

No problem.
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Maltropia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:05 am

Grand Nicholia wrote:Does grave digging count if it is done by the original poster?

Well, it depends on the context. If it's an old RP that you and other participants are reviving, I think gravedigging's usually okay. Storefronts can be bumped after years of inactivity. I don't know what the deal is in F&NI but I imagine your own embassy would also be bumpable.
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Postby Kusia » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:02 pm

Did I do anything wrong in the summary me and Suyalia are having a war RP but no one isn't joining

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=343388

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Postby Vancon » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:08 pm

Kusia wrote:Did I do anything wrong in the summary me and Suyalia are having a war RP but no one isn't joining

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 5&t=343388

The most obvious thing is that it doesn't seem all that welcoming. There's nothing really saying that you want people to join.

Minus the part that's in the title, but there's nowhere people can write themselves in.
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Kusia » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:20 pm

Vancon wrote:
Kusia wrote:Did I do anything wrong in the summary me and Suyalia are having a war RP but no one isn't joining

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=343388

The most obvious thing is that it doesn't seem all that welcoming. There's nothing really saying that you want people to join.

Minus the part that's in the title, but there's nowhere people can write themselves in.


So send a message to nations that have heard about the news and have Kusia ask for help.

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Postby Vancon » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:23 pm

Kusia wrote:
Vancon wrote:The most obvious thing is that it doesn't seem all that welcoming. There's nothing really saying that you want people to join.

Minus the part that's in the title, but there's nowhere people can write themselves in.


So send a message to nations that have heard about the news and have Kusia ask for help.

Uh, sure. That is, if I get what you're saying. You probably want to put more content. Here's an older RP of mine. It's not that good, but at least it has a well-ish done OP and an OOC that generated interest first. You need to make something interesting so that people want to join.
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Santheres » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:44 pm

Kusia wrote:Did I do anything wrong in the summary me and Suyalia are having a war RP but no one isn't joining

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 5&t=343388


What Vancon has said is worthwhile to consider. Many RPers like more detail and more places to easily insert themselves into the story. Not every RPer wants to just "send message, start fighting" or similar; and even if many do, there are a hundred other RPs that are just the same that someone can do. There's more supply than demand, quite honestly.

When I look at your post, the only one with any modicum of interesting content is the first one, and it's not very much. You mention some things, but you don't actually write about them. The post could almost be formatted with bullet points. I think you should consider putting more work into your posts. That may help with quantity of responses, but most definitely will improve the quality of them.

I also don't think it helps that you and the other post thought it necessary to post "no godmodding." That should be a given.
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