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Where should the peace talks be held

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The Union of Tentacles and Grapes
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:09 pm

Burleson wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:
Your federal government won't step in to stop cruel and unusual acts of punishment against innocent people, but will defend their right to do it?


It's cruel and a huge overreaction given the scale, yes, but it's in no way tyrannical ("dictatorshipish" is not a word). Tomahawk missiles kill indiscriminately, they don't commit genocide. The Ranch County government is the "dictatorshipish" one.

We are defending the people of this country from a foreign invasion. Killing civilians is what most people would call a war crime.

The Union does not carry out lethal attacks on civilian targets. However, you have previously stated that your civilians act as a militia force. They are not civilians when acting in this capacity.

Also, federal legislators in your nation have begun considering the Ranch county law as an addition to the "morality" law already passed, making it certainly an international issue.

If burleson does not overrule its component part with legislation of higher authority, granding all of its citizens basic human rights, we must resort to military action. Burleson has been given many chances.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:19 pm

Burleson wrote:
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Your federal government won't step in to stop cruel and unusual acts of punishment against innocent people, but will defend their right to do it?


It's cruel and a huge overreaction given the scale, yes, but it's in no way tyrannical ("dictatorshipish" is not a word). Tomahawk missiles kill indiscriminately, they don't commit genocide. The Ranch County government is the "dictatorshipish" one.

We are defending the people of this country from a foreign invasion.


And we'd like to think we could defend the people of the world from tyrannical governance. It's a shame, really. Some of the people in your country can't rely on it's own government to protect them, so they must rely on foreigners.

Killing civilians is what most people would call a war crime.


Even if we bothered with the weak, bureaucratic nonsense that defined "war crimes", the people in your nation are armed and, supposedly, ready to engage with any foreign invader. They are not civilians. They are militants without uniforms, making them legitimate targets.
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Postby Lingang » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:23 pm

The Dictatoral Federation of Lingang fully supports this measure, and further encourages Burleson to go further to outlaw all other disgraces of human nature. :clap:
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:28 pm

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:
Burleson wrote:We are defending the people of this country from a foreign invasion. Killing civilians is what most people would call a war crime.

The Union does not carry out lethal attacks on civilian targets. However, you have previously stated that your civilians act as a militia force. They are not civilians when acting in this capacity.

Also, federal legislators in your nation have begun considering the Ranch county law as an addition to the "morality" law already passed, making it certainly an international issue.

If burleson does not overrule its component part with legislation of higher authority, granding all of its citizens basic human rights, we must resort to military action. Burleson has been given many chances.

There are no official military personnel in Ranch County. An attack on the area would result in the deaths of children, the elderly, and the very people you're trying to protect, gays.
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The Union of Tentacles and Grapes
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:30 pm

Burleson wrote:
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:The Union does not carry out lethal attacks on civilian targets. However, you have previously stated that your civilians act as a militia force. They are not civilians when acting in this capacity.

Also, federal legislators in your nation have begun considering the Ranch county law as an addition to the "morality" law already passed, making it certainly an international issue.

If burleson does not overrule its component part with legislation of higher authority, granding all of its citizens basic human rights, we must resort to military action. Burleson has been given many chances.

There are no official military personnel in Ranch County. An attack on the area would result in the deaths of children, the elderly, and the very people you're trying to protect, gays.

Military advisors in the Union do not believe so. Our tactics are non-traditional. But again, any that take up arms are no longer civilians, be they the old or young. You cannot hide behind your shield wall of untrained soldiers.
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Postby Ranch County » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:31 pm

The government of Ranch County is open to negotiations and a reasonable compromise. Any foreign diplomats that wish to avoid war through diplomacy rather than whine about our laws like a bunch of three year olds are welcome to join discussions here.
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:36 pm

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Three more counties have created laws that would punish homosexual acts with the death penalty. These counties are Dunn, Houston, and Gaines. Similar laws are under consideration in the legislatures of Belle County and Dixie County.
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:38 pm

Ranch County wrote:The government of Ranch County is open to negotiations and a reasonable compromise. Any foreign diplomats that wish to avoid war through diplomacy rather than whine about our laws like a bunch of three year olds are welcome to join discussions here.

The passed legislation that condemns homosexuals to death is illegal and contrary to the obligations of your federal government. As a member of the World Assembly, its passage and likely signage are meaningless. Ranch Country does not have the authority to carry out this law. Any attempts to do so will be met with overwhelming force to protect human rights in accordance with international law that Burleson willingly accepted as part of its World Assembly member state conditions.

The law in question is invalid and a gross abridgement of human rights. Cease and desist or Ranch County will not long have a say in the matter.

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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:42 pm

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If you want to change the law, your best option would be to move to Ranch County and vote for liberal candidates for the county legislature that would support a repeal of this law.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:23 pm

Burleson wrote:To: International Community

If you want to change the law, your best option would be to move to Ranch County and vote for liberal candidates for the county legislature that would support a repeal of this law.

"We needn't argue. Even if you want to enforce this, you can't. WA isn't some petty organisation that ignores people who don't comply. They are in your police force, your army, your leadership. They will grant these prisoners clemency at every turn, they will not arrest people in the act, they will overlook corruption. Seriously, did you honestly think the WA was a weak group of nations that had no power? Not to mention, they do this all on the budget of a shoestring."
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:40 pm

Burleson wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:In response to this law, Faustin Land invades Distruzio.

Distruzio???


I was confused as well.
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Nocturnalis
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Postby Nocturnalis » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:18 pm

--To: The Republic of Burleson--

The Imperial Federation of Nocturnalis hereby supports this legislation. We do not support the 'rights' of those who both betray their ancestors and reject Holy Lune's Gift to Humankind. Guilty, too, are these nations that would seek to destroy your wond'rous nation over the 'rights' of a few sick, perverted Hedonists; after all, He who is Most Condemnable is He who begins with violence.

Nocturnalis extends an offer of friendship to the Republic of Burleson in these troubled times.

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Gallifrey Secundaria
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Postby Gallifrey Secundaria » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:02 am

As more counties have adopted similar laws, there is but one thing to do.

Lamaredia gives the nations of Burleson exactly 10 hours to veto all of the laws proposing the death penalty for LGBTQ people, lest war will be declared. Diplomacy has been tried, and it has failed. We will not allow this extreme breach of human rights to continue.
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Postby Ranch County » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:09 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Burleson wrote:To: International Community

If you want to change the law, your best option would be to move to Ranch County and vote for liberal candidates for the county legislature that would support a repeal of this law.

"We needn't argue. Even if you want to enforce this, you can't. WA isn't some petty organisation that ignores people who don't comply. They are in your police force, your army, your leadership. They will grant these prisoners clemency at every turn, they will not arrest people in the act, they will overlook corruption. Seriously, did you honestly think the WA was a weak group of nations that had no power? Not to mention, they do this all on the budget of a shoestring."

The WA actually doesn't have much power to enforce their laws beyond condemnation.
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Postby Burleson » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:12 am

Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:As more counties have adopted similar laws, there is but one thing to do.

Lamaredia gives the nations of Burleson exactly 10 hours to veto all of the laws proposing the death penalty for LGBTQ people, lest war will be declared. Diplomacy has been tried, and it has failed. We will not allow this extreme breach of human rights to continue.

You have not tried diplomacy. Diplomacy does not mean making demands and threatening war without even considering any kind of compromise. Doing that is called immaturity. I am completely willing to make compromise to prevent violence.
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Postby Dewhurst-Narculis » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:14 am

Burleson wrote:
Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:As more counties have adopted similar laws, there is but one thing to do.

Lamaredia gives the nations of Burleson exactly 10 hours to veto all of the laws proposing the death penalty for LGBTQ people, lest war will be declared. Diplomacy has been tried, and it has failed. We will not allow this extreme breach of human rights to continue.

You have not tried diplomacy. Diplomacy does not mean making demands and threatening war without even considering any kind of compromise. Doing that is called immaturity. I am completely willing to make compromise to prevent violence.


Actually that's a tier of Diplomacy called Coercion
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Postby Lynion » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:22 am

TO: The Government of the Republic of Burleson.
FROM: The Stratocracy Shadow Kingdom of Lynion, High King Vamp Kingston
RE: Homosexuality

To whom it may concern,

Greetings from the Stratocracy Shadow Kingdom of Lynion, I am writing to you with concern for both your well being as a nation and also your method of dealing with the homosexual problem that has emerge from within your nation. I understand we all have different approaches to this idea, whether its killing them or embracing them. We would like to offer you our rehabilitation program that can be adjusted to deal with your homosexual issue. Our rehabilitation program has being used on prisoners, helping ex-servicemen/women adapt into civilian life and also used on terrorists. At the moment, we sit on a 90.5% success rate.

I want to be clear we are not threatening you with war. If you do accept this matter, we will dispatch a size able team to help you. If you do accept this offer, we humbly desire for you to not kill any of the homosexuals (regardless if you have decided or not) until our rehabilitation program has begun. In addition to the program, you will have a good workforce return to your nation to help progress it.

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Postby The Nexus of Man » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:31 am

Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:As more counties have adopted similar laws, there is but one thing to do.

Lamaredia gives the nations of Burleson exactly 10 hours to veto all of the laws proposing the death penalty for LGBTQ people, lest war will be declared. Diplomacy has been tried, and it has failed. We will not allow this extreme breach of human rights to continue.


Since we support Burleson, it'll be a nice glass roasting.

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Postby Koopaville » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:34 am

The government of Koopaville supports this law entirely.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:46 am

Burleson wrote:Florence News 4

The county executive of Ranch County has announced that he will sign the "Leviticus 18:22 Enforcement Act" on October 20 at 12:00 PM (14:00 GMT). The law will be signed at a special ceremony at Southland Stadium in Lafayette.


Her Majesty's Government also presumes that a law will subsequently be passed prohibiting the consumption of pork products and certain other foodstuffs as per the stipulations of Leviticus 11:7-8.
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Postby Cuatro » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:35 am

I just heard some children at a playground in our Capital playing and chanting "Burleson, Burleson, country of no on'; they kill all the gay, a county rules they." Just toddlers, imagine what adults chant at stadiums.

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Following reports of a severely unjust law, the National and Civil Conclaves today have ordered all the citizens of Burleson to return home, and even offered free flights home, and likewise there has been requests for all CNA citizens to return from there on the same aircraft. This is following concerns about possible Burlesonian extremists trying to deal a blow to the Conclaves, due to their nation's apparent hatred of "libralism". One citizen, who requested to remain nameless, has been quoted as saying "If they hate Socialism and other non-Conservative parties so much, maybe those damned hillbilly, redneck, hicks should learn to use the internet to research and learn about other places before going there". It is worth noting that the CNA does NOT have anything against Conservatives, and this does not show racism, but rather that ignorance of any kind is not tolerated.

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Postby Defwa » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:12 am

Burleson wrote:
Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:As more counties have adopted similar laws, there is but one thing to do.

Lamaredia gives the nations of Burleson exactly 10 hours to veto all of the laws proposing the death penalty for LGBTQ people, lest war will be declared. Diplomacy has been tried, and it has failed. We will not allow this extreme breach of human rights to continue.

You have not tried diplomacy. Diplomacy does not mean making demands and threatening war without even considering any kind of compromise. Doing that is called immaturity. I am completely willing to make compromise to prevent violence.

What value does diplomacy truly have to a nation that already ignores international obligations.
And what compromise could there be? We've already attempted all possible evacuation. Now the only remaining thing is either you start recognizing human rights or nations respond with a liberating force.

Ranch County wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:"We needn't argue. Even if you want to enforce this, you can't. WA isn't some petty organisation that ignores people who don't comply. They are in your police force, your army, your leadership. They will grant these prisoners clemency at every turn, they will not arrest people in the act, they will overlook corruption. Seriously, did you honestly think the WA was a weak group of nations that had no power? Not to mention, they do this all on the budget of a shoestring."

The WA actually doesn't have much power to enforce their laws beyond condemnation.

OOC: The WA isn't like the UN (due to a rather pointed request from that very organization) and is not so easily ignorable.
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Postby Gallifrey Secundaria » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:49 am

Ranch County wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:"We needn't argue. Even if you want to enforce this, you can't. WA isn't some petty organisation that ignores people who don't comply. They are in your police force, your army, your leadership. They will grant these prisoners clemency at every turn, they will not arrest people in the act, they will overlook corruption. Seriously, did you honestly think the WA was a weak group of nations that had no power? Not to mention, they do this all on the budget of a shoestring."

The WA actually doesn't have much power to enforce their laws beyond condemnation.

"The World Assembly is the world's governing body. It's your chance to mold the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations.) In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing."
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