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Communist Uprising & Attempted Coup in Peachany

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Moskovie
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Postby Moskovie » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:20 am

Latonos wrote:(Image)

This is the peace offer from Pechany. Since I represent the entirety of the communist group, I will lead the talks to ensure fair and just treatment for the people's cause.
I will respond to each point individually with my counter offer at the end.



Communist movement will be declared legal

Its hard to disagree. We agree fully with this.
Formation of a government of national unity (Communists-Liberals-Socialists and Conservatives)

I have to disagree here. Political confessionalism will not work here, mostly because it is considerably easy to construct social engineering policies that might negatively effect other political groups membership. We somewhat disagree.
Referendum about Monarchy (People can decide what they want Republic or Monarchy)

Not good enough. No monarchy at all. We want it completely abolished. We completely disagree.
Referendum about a People's Republic

Though a referendum would be nice, we should assess each region individually to see how well a People's Republic would hold. We somewhat agree.
Friendship treaty with communist countries

War is a messy option for most. There are terms to this, but we mostly agree.
New elections very soon

We'll hold on that.
FTA with all countries involved in this conflict

This too. There needs to be terms with this.
Red Army will be a part of the National Army of Peachany

Military unity is important. But it isn't really subjective to who's in power. We somewhat agree.



Here is the people's counter offer.



- Communist Movement will be declared legal, cannot be changed to illegal. Permanent.

- Formation of an national unity committee which will assess representation of the communists in the capital. May override regional elections if they are deemed a danger to the existence of the Communist Party, and its right wing counterpart (Democrats or what have you) to ensure that both parties have a large representation in government.

- Monarchy abolished. They may still keep their land and such, but their titles will not be recognised by the government and they must pay taxes like everyone else.

- Regional People's Republic Referendums - if a majority of regions in the nation want a reformation of the people's republic, then let it be so. This is more organised than a national referendum, and gives smaller voices a bigger say.

- Non-Aggression with all members of this communist coalition, who are to oversee reconstruction of Peachany with economic assistance and military protection and no interference by non-communists during the process.

- Establish another national committee (hereto referred as the Peachany Supreme Soviet) who will oversee transition, rebuilding, reconstruction and future elections - re-elections.

- Free Trade Association Pact with all members of this communist coalition, which will ensure cheap prices for everything - from food to gasoline - to ensure that Pechany gets the best return on its infrastructure investment to make it a fully productive command economy once again.

- Army will remain separate entity from government until the Peachany Supreme Soviet is disbanded by majority senate vote. This is to ensure neither the communists nor capitalists can split apart once again.

- It goes unsaid that all Quaxlogian and Ninian, as well as capitalist powers withdraw.


We await your response, acceptance or counter-offer.


I must speak with the peachany government, the operation is delayed. :eyebrow:

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Nicaro
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Postby Nicaro » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:26 am

Moskovie wrote:
Latonos wrote:(Image)

This is the peace offer from Pechany. Since I represent the entirety of the communist group, I will lead the talks to ensure fair and just treatment for the people's cause.
I will respond to each point individually with my counter offer at the end.




Its hard to disagree. We agree fully with this.

I have to disagree here. Political confessionalism will not work here, mostly because it is considerably easy to construct social engineering policies that might negatively effect other political groups membership. We somewhat disagree.

Not good enough. No monarchy at all. We want it completely abolished. We completely disagree.

Though a referendum would be nice, we should assess each region individually to see how well a People's Republic would hold. We somewhat agree.

War is a messy option for most. There are terms to this, but we mostly agree.

We'll hold on that.

This too. There needs to be terms with this.

Military unity is important. But it isn't really subjective to who's in power. We somewhat agree.



Here is the people's counter offer.





We await your response, acceptance or counter-offer.


I must speak with the peachany government, the operation is delayed. :eyebrow:


OOC: Well, then ignore my artillery attacks on the capital. :?

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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:20 am

OOC: Now what do we do? :unsure:

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Latonos
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Postby Latonos » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:21 am

Soviet Chernarus wrote:OOC: Now what do we do? :unsure:


OOC: We wait for Peachany to respond, counter or outright deny my proposal.
*Twiddles thumbs*
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Postby Nicaro » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:24 am

Soviet Chernarus wrote:OOC: Now what do we do? :unsure:


OOC: We could invade Quax if you're bored :D

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:25 am

Nicaro wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:OOC: Now what do we do? :unsure:


OOC: We could invade Quax if you're bored :D


OOC: Okay 8)

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Postby Nicaro » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:31 am

Two Illusions penetrated Quax air space, launched from the Quax Battle Group 190 kilometers off its coast. They were running a recon mission, checking for any Communist signs of where to begin deploying supplies and troops to assist the People's Revolution inside Quaxoglia. Additional measures are made so the Soviet Chernarus allies can catch up and support the landings, while the Quax navy has yet to be heard of it is expected to be laying in wait.

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Postby Valaran » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:38 am

Latonos wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:OOC: Now what do we do? :unsure:


OOC: We wait for Peachany to respond, counter or outright deny my proposal.
*Twiddles thumbs*



also did you see my response (last page?) :unsure:
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
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Postby Latonos » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:41 am

Valaran wrote:
Latonos wrote:
OOC: We wait for Peachany to respond, counter or outright deny my proposal.
*Twiddles thumbs*



also did you see my response (last page?) :unsure:


Sorry dear I must've missed it.
Upon reading it, I want to wait for Peachany to arrive. Advise him if you want, its his/her terms.
/[Long live Latonos]\

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Postby Valaran » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:44 am

Latonos wrote:
Valaran wrote:

also did you see my response (last page?) :unsure:


Sorry dear I must've missed it.
Upon reading it, I want to wait for Peachany to arrive. Advise him if you want, its his/her terms.


OOC:

Oh its fine, it happens :)
It was more along the lines of, 'what do you think of these amendments I have proposed?' but I'll advise Peachany then...
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:48 am

Nicaro wrote:Two Illusions penetrated Quax air space, launched from the Quax Battle Group 190 kilometers off its coast. They were running a recon mission, checking for any Communist signs of where to begin deploying supplies and troops to assist the People's Revolution inside Quaxoglia. Additional measures are made so the Soviet Chernarus allies can catch up and support the landings, while the Quax navy has yet to be heard of it is expected to be laying in wait.


OOC: I was just kidding lol :blink:

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Postby Nicaro » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:49 am

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Nicaro wrote:Two Illusions penetrated Quax air space, launched from the Quax Battle Group 190 kilometers off its coast. They were running a recon mission, checking for any Communist signs of where to begin deploying supplies and troops to assist the People's Revolution inside Quaxoglia. Additional measures are made so the Soviet Chernarus allies can catch up and support the landings, while the Quax navy has yet to be heard of it is expected to be laying in wait.


OOC: I was just kidding lol :blink:


OOC: Lmao, don't kid about stuff like that :p

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:04 am

Nicaro wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:
OOC: I was just kidding lol :blink:


OOC: Lmao, don't kid about stuff like that :p


OOC: Why not? :(

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American Soviet Socialist States
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Thanks!

Postby American Soviet Socialist States » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:47 am

Latonos wrote:
American Soviet Socialist States wrote:Could someone post a picture of a map of the most current situation, with the Communist controlled area in red?


Image
The American Soviet Socialist States' military: People's Volunteer Army (PVA)

It is broken down into different Armies. Each Army includes Land, Naval, Air, and Naval-Land Task Forces.

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Community of free peoples
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Postby Community of free peoples » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:11 am

the community of free peoples moves its troops forward

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Postby Peachany » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:20 am

Latonos wrote:(Image)

This is the peace offer from Pechany. Since I represent the entirety of the communist group, I will lead the talks to ensure fair and just treatment for the people's cause.
I will respond to each point individually with my counter offer at the end.



Formation of a government of national unity (Communists-Liberals-Socialists and Conservatives)

I have to disagree here. Political confessionalism will not work here, mostly because it is considerably easy to construct social engineering policies that might negatively effect other political groups membership. We somewhat disagree.

Why not?
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:57 am

Community of free peoples wrote:the community of free peoples moves its troops forward

Wait - we have the same flag!!!! :blink:
EDIT: I changed it to avoid confusion
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Postby Cedoria » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:07 pm

Latonos wrote:(Image)

This is the peace offer from Pechany. Since I represent the entirety of the communist group, I will lead the talks to ensure fair and just treatment for the people's cause.
I will respond to each point individually with my counter offer at



Here is the people's counter offer.



- Communist Movement will be declared legal, cannot be changed to illegal. Permanent.

- Formation of an national unity committee which will assess representation of the communists in the capital. May override regional elections if they are deemed a danger to the existence of the Communist Party, and its right wing counterpart (Democrats or what have you) to ensure that both parties have a large representation in government.

- Monarchy abolished. They may still keep their land and such, but their titles will not be recognised by the government and they must pay taxes like everyone else.

- Regional People's Republic Referendums - if a majority of regions in the nation want a reformation of the people's republic, then let it be so. This is more organised than a national referendum, and gives smaller voices a bigger say.

- Non-Aggression with all members of this communist coalition, who are to oversee reconstruction of Peachany with economic assistance and military protection and no interference by non-communists during the process.

- Establish another national committee (hereto referred as the Peachany Supreme Soviet) who will oversee transition, rebuilding, reconstruction and future elections - re-elections.

- Free Trade Association Pact with all members of this communist coalition, which will ensure cheap prices for everything - from food to gasoline - to ensure that Pechany gets the best return on its infrastructure investment to make it a fully productive command economy once again.

- Army will remain separate entity from government until the Peachany Supreme Soviet is disbanded by majority senate vote. This is to ensure neither the communists nor capitalists can split apart once again.

- It goes unsaid that all Quaxlogian and Ninian, as well as capitalist powers withdraw.


We await your response, acceptance or counter-offer.


We would accept this particular peace treaty, if Peachany is willing to accept it themselves. It would be a fitting end to such a violent and bloody conflict that full enfranchisement and representation be achieved by dispossessed groups such as communists. I for one am not prepared to negotiate on the Monarchy point, a fully representative parliamentary democracy is acceptable to us however, if that is the option that Peachany citizens choose during their referendum.
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Eastern Kirgyzstan
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Postby Eastern Kirgyzstan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:34 pm

Peachany wrote:
Latonos wrote:(Image)

This is the peace offer from Pechany. Since I represent the entirety of the communist group, I will lead the talks to ensure fair and just treatment for the people's cause.
I will respond to each point individually with my counter offer at the end.





Why not?


Comrade, I can guarantee Latonos does not speak for Eastern Kirgyzstan.

ON ANOTHER NOTE

Eastern Kirgyzstan is glad to hear the chaotic fighting has ended, we will then take back all our equipment, armour, air support, and troops, and we will open up embassies and possibly a military base when it becomes all Communist territory, the revolutionaries are to keep all the heavily armoured AP vehicles we have gave to them, it is not even a speck of dust to us, but not only that, if any problems do arise again they will have top of the class military vehicles.

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American Soviet Socialist States
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Connect the Communist cities

Postby American Soviet Socialist States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:38 pm

I think that the Communists should be allowed to have 3 more states or provinces connected so that it will be easier to travel and go about their daily lives. Think about it, a country that is spread out but is not connected, the Communists should be allowed Armon-Aton, Memorya and Urnianburg. I think that is would make things easier b/c the monarchy has a huge part of the land already.

im not sure if the leading Communist countries have come to a complete agreement over what will happen
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The American Soviet Socialist States' military: People's Volunteer Army (PVA)

It is broken down into different Armies. Each Army includes Land, Naval, Air, and Naval-Land Task Forces.

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Community of free peoples
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Postby Community of free peoples » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:44 pm

Wait who won?

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Postby American Soviet Socialist States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:01 pm

Community of free peoples wrote:Wait who won?



I thought there was a ceasefire?
The American Soviet Socialist States' military: People's Volunteer Army (PVA)

It is broken down into different Armies. Each Army includes Land, Naval, Air, and Naval-Land Task Forces.

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Latonos
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Postby Latonos » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:37 am

Eastern Kirgyzstan wrote:
Peachany wrote:Why not?


Comrade, I can guarantee Latonos does not speak for Eastern Kirgyzstan.

American Soviet Socialist States wrote:
Community of free peoples wrote:Wait who won?



I thought there was a ceasefire?


I am leading the peace talks.
I represent the communist coalition.
/[Long live Latonos]\

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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:29 am

Latonos wrote:
Eastern Kirgyzstan wrote:
Comrade, I can guarantee Latonos does not speak for Eastern Kirgyzstan.

American Soviet Socialist States wrote:

I thought there was a ceasefire?


I am leading the peace talks.
I represent the communist coalition.


Like hell you represent our nation.
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Latonos
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Postby Latonos » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:00 am

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Latonos wrote:

I am leading the peace talks.
I represent the communist coalition.


Like hell you represent our nation.
United Russia will accept nothing less than the total shift of control given to the Peachany communists and the abolition of monarchy.
OoC: Sorry it's a small post, is early in the morning


Maybe you should read what Latonos is demanding from Peachany before you accuse us of under representation in the talks.
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