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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:43 amPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:44 amAlosteq Diin Nastja wrote:The Union of Klotecnia wrote:(Image)THE UNITED LEFTAPPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORMSECTION ONE
Nation Information
Official National Name: The People's Republic of the Union of Klotecnia
Short National Name: Klotecnia
Abbreviated Form: PRUK
National Population (RP): 82,345,960
National Tech Era: 21st century
Map: (Optional)
Regional Map: (Optional)SECTION TWO
Ambassador Information
Name: Jeliky Oleksandryov, Commissariat of Foreign Affairs
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Health concerns: n/a
Biography:
Birth: 18 August 1973
Office: 18 January 2015 -SECTION THREE
Economy Information
Economic System: Command (state-planned) economy
Economic Stage: Stable
Currency: Drezov (dR)
Exchange Rate to NSD: 1 NSD = 15.43 kD
GDP: 700,000,000,000 dR
GDP per capita: $11,367
HDI: 0.857SECTION FOUR
Society Information
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes, under state-control
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes, only in local oblast soviet elections.
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes (but death penalty is in place)
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): YesSECTION FIVE
Policy Information
GOVERNMENT
Government Type: Democratic Socialist
Head of State: Supreme Leader Nesludinu Mirkov
Head of Government: Supreme Leader Nesludinu Mirkov
Legislature: Klotecnian National People's Soviet
Head of Legislature: Bolahil Zovanodov
Judiciary: Klotecnian Supreme Court (criminal), Juvenile Court (criminal), Disputes Court (family, inheritance, personal issues).
Head of Judiciary: Dolivkh Kalazhdov
Political Ideologies: (Rank in order of dominance, if one, list one)
1. Democratic Socialism
2. Klotecnian left-wing nationalism
3. Communism
FOREIGN POLICY
Known enemies, rivals: n/a
DEFCON level: (If you provide a threat level, please define the threats to your nation.)
- Level 1-2: Low
- Level 3-4: Moderate
- Level 5-6: High
- Level 7-8: Very High
- Level 9-10: Extreme
- Level 11-12: Catastrophe (very urgent)
Known allied nations:
Other Alliance Memberships: (Alliance systems in NSG - UL, IFC, etc. etc.)
Foreign Policy: (Define your foreign policy the best you can, here.)SECTION SIX
Military Information
Name of Military:
Commander In Chief: Supreme Leader Nesludinu Mirkov
Active Military Personnel: 3,600,235
Reserve Military Personnel: 1,200,010
Military Budget: $4.8 billion
Military Black Budget: (Optional)SECTION SEVENDo you agree to abide by the People's Proclamation: Yes
OOC Information
Are there any reasons why you are applying to the UL: Because I am a Democratic Socialist
Why do you think the United Left is a good fit for you: I am against racism, xenophobia and homophobia. Also to combat far-right organisations that are racist, xenophobic and/or homophobic.
What do you think you can contribute to the UL: Whatever I can
Roleplay Examples: (Optional, but encouraged. Please use links - if you have to place the full text here, spoiler it.)
Have you had trouble with the Forum Moderators: n/a
If so, how severe was the situation, and why did it happen: n/aDo not remove - Social2478(Image)
Do you have any RP examples?
The Union of Klotecnia wrote:Can the United Left support my anti-USSR resistance movement 'National Revolutionary Liberation Movement (NRLM)'? More info about the NRLM and its aims are in the link below.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=338415&p=24260781#p24260781
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:46 amPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:15 amArdoki wrote:The High Lords wrote:
Basically, tyranny by majority. The uninformed majority.
Yeah.
I use to think democracy was good.
But then I realised how stupid people are, and watched how so many voted against their interests, how they voted for the internment of refugees in concentration camps, voted to stop supporting Indigenous populations, voted to drastically reduce welfare, and vote to cut taxes to the rich and corporations but increase them for themselves. They were ordinary people, voting against themselves and society. Plus the media was so biased against the Labour Party.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:17 amArdoki wrote:Alosteq Diin Nastja wrote:But when the people are informed, democracy can be wonderous.
The thing is, humans are not perfect. They can be manipulated, with fear, hatred, etc. It isn't just politicians, but the media which manipulate the voters.
Look at the rise of the far-right in Europe today. They are becoming ever more powerful while the left is weakening, racism and xenophobia are on the rise. It's like 1933 all over again.
Democracy may be a good idea, but it is corruptible and requires each voter to vote rationally in order to work, something which never happens due to the complexities of the human brain.
Obviously don't support the people having no influence over the government. However there are people who would be more suited to rule a country than the masses. Democracy implies that an ordinary citizen knows more about economics than an economist, an ordinary citizen knows more about healthcare than someone in the industry.
Democracy allows the ordinary citizens to decide the policy of the government, why would we let those who are unqualified decide government policy. Not only do they butcher the government, the majority often supports the oppression of minorities (ethnic minorities, religious minorities, the poor, etc).
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:02 amThe Union of Klotecnia wrote:Alosteq Diin Nastja wrote:Do you have any RP examples?The Union of Klotecnia wrote:Can the United Left support my anti-USSR resistance movement 'National Revolutionary Liberation Movement (NRLM)'? More info about the NRLM and its aims are in the link below.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p24260781
EDIT: Yes, I do have my RP example. Link is below
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p24260781
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:46 pmZunkwentania wrote:Ardoki wrote:Yeah.
I use to think democracy was good.
But then I realised how stupid people are, and watched how so many voted against their interests, how they voted for the internment of refugees in concentration camps, voted to stop supporting Indigenous populations, voted to drastically reduce welfare, and vote to cut taxes to the rich and corporations but increase them for themselves. They were ordinary people, voting against themselves and society. Plus the media was so biased against the Labour Party.
As opposed to having one person who can be corrupted even more easily running things? Democracy is flawed, because humans are. But it's far less flawed than dictatorship. And power does corrupt.
Zunkwentania wrote:Ardoki wrote:The thing is, humans are not perfect. They can be manipulated, with fear, hatred, etc. It isn't just politicians, but the media which manipulate the voters.
Look at the rise of the far-right in Europe today. They are becoming ever more powerful while the left is weakening, racism and xenophobia are on the rise. It's like 1933 all over again.
Democracy may be a good idea, but it is corruptible and requires each voter to vote rationally in order to work, something which never happens due to the complexities of the human brain.
Obviously don't support the people having no influence over the government. However there are people who would be more suited to rule a country than the masses. Democracy implies that an ordinary citizen knows more about economics than an economist, an ordinary citizen knows more about healthcare than someone in the industry.
Democracy allows the ordinary citizens to decide the policy of the government, why would we let those who are unqualified decide government policy. Not only do they butcher the government, the majority often supports the oppression of minorities (ethnic minorities, religious minorities, the poor, etc).
And who picks the technocracy? They could get corrupt and not nominate the best people for the job.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:49 pmArdoki wrote:Zunkwentania wrote:As opposed to having one person who can be corrupted even more easily running things? Democracy is flawed, because humans are. But it's far less flawed than dictatorship. And power does corrupt.
I never said I favoured autocracy. It's just as bad as democracy; could be better but could also be worse.Zunkwentania wrote:And who picks the technocracy? They could get corrupt and not nominate the best people for the job.
Obviously you would have to have the correct qualifications for the position, and take a test with all of the other applicants.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:56 pmZunkwentania wrote:Ardoki wrote:I never said I favoured autocracy. It's just as bad as democracy; could be better but could also be worse.
Obviously you would have to have the correct qualifications for the position, and take a test with all of the other applicants.
Who grades the test? Who decides what's on the test?
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:02 pmArdoki wrote:Zunkwentania wrote:Who grades the test? Who decides what's on the test?
Computers would grade the exams. There would be several boards of examiners, who formulate all the different exams.
Anyway, Democracy is so much more corrupt than this system could be. You have political dynasties, and politicians need lots of money just to get elected so are literally in the pockets of big business and the super wealthy (http://www.businessinsider.com.au/election-cost-2-billion-2012-12).
Not to mention how the people are brainwashed as the corporate media always favours the more capitalist and right-wing candidate, along with the right-wing's tactics of appealing to more primitive emotions such as fear and hate to get votes.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:04 pmAlosteq Diin Nastja wrote:Ardoki wrote:Computers would grade the exams. There would be several boards of examiners, who formulate all the different exams.
Anyway, Democracy is so much more corrupt than this system could be. You have political dynasties, and politicians need lots of money just to get elected so are literally in the pockets of big business and the super wealthy (http://www.businessinsider.com.au/election-cost-2-billion-2012-12).
Not to mention how the people are brainwashed as the corporate media always favours the more capitalist and right-wing candidate, along with the right-wing's tactics of appealing to more primitive emotions such as fear and hate to get votes.
Media in dictatorships tend to brainwash their civilians as well. Look at the DPRK
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:06 pmArdoki wrote:Yes. That is a good thing, it can be used to eliminate rightist economic thought as well as racism, sexism, queerphobia, nationalism, etc.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:08 pmPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:12 pmPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:03 pmAlosteq Diin Nastja wrote:The High Lords wrote:
Yes.
As far as I know this is an ECONOMICALLY-ALIGNED alliance, not anything else. Refer to previous iterations of the UL thread for more evidence of economic alignment.
Emphasis with CAPS - not yelling
We're reforming as to make this a freer alliance. There is no need for dictatorship in the modern world.
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:51 pmNew Jordslag wrote:Alosteq Diin Nastja wrote:We're reforming as to make this a freer alliance. There is no need for dictatorship in the modern world.
Oh, really? Good. Then you can consider me interested in filling out an app. I'm a leftist like you guys, but I hate Dictatorships. In other words, I'm a Democratic Socialist.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:22 amPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:31 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:34 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:05 pmBack again?The High Lords wrote:-snip-
THE UNITED LEFTAPPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM
SECTION ONE
Nation Information
Official National Name: The Democratic Socialist Republic of Alairia and Algeria
Short National Name: Alairia and Algeria
Abbreviated Form: A&A
National Population (RP): Using NS Stats. Unrealistic, I admit.
National Tech Era: MT.
Map:
Regional Map: (Optional)
SECTION TWO
Ambassador Information
Name: Yusiddah Sayamn
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Health concerns: Back Problems
Biography: Yusiddah was born in Northern Algerian, before the unification of Algeria, lived under a Capitalist System, as a dirt poor girl. She was enlisted into the Algerian Nationalists, a terrorist group for Northern Algerian, by her father, who had formerly been accused of first-degree murder of her mother. She lived under the Algerian Nationalists as a poor girl, completely separated by her alcoholic father. She was later accused of killing her father, only to be acquitted by Matt Engarde, and she then went to school under Matt's guidance. She followed in Matt's steps, and was able to leave her father and soon left to Socialist Algerian, before the unification of Northern Algeria and Socialist Algeria. She grew up to be a successful defense attorney, and soon became a judge at age 34. Only five years later, her mentor, Matt Engarde, committed suicide, and she attempted to kill herself, only to fail. She was completely alone, and had a severe co-dependency problem, and soon got rid of that problem with therapy, and soon became attached with his son, James Engarde. They both became politicians, and she now works under him.
SECTION THREE
Economy Information
Economic System: Socialist
Economic Stage: Slight Growth
Currency: Alairian Peso/Algerian Dinar
Exchange Rate to NSD: .72->1.00
GDP: Math
GDP per capita: More math
HDI: Much More Math
SECTION FOUR
Society Information
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes
SECTION FIVE
Policy Information
GOVERNMENT
Government Type: Democratic Oligarchies (Five different Councils0 mixed with a Congressional Republic
Head of State: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algera
Head of Government: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Legislature: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Legislature: Juniper Moore(Only de-facto)
Judiciary: Supreme Court of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Judiciary: Niyassa Batista
Political Ideologies: Socialism, Secularism, Nationalism, Communism
FOREIGN POLICY
Known enemies, rivals: N/A
DEFCON level: N/A
Known allied nations: N/A
Other Alliance Memberships: N/A
Foreign Policy: Peaceful and quaint, until actions deemed necessary are levied upon
SECTION SIX
Military Information
Name of Military:
Commander In Chief: Major-General Qudsiyah Shadiyah
Active Military Personnel: 121,000
Reserve Military Personnel: 79,000
Military Budget: 2.12 Million NSD
SECTION SEVENDo you agree to abide by the People's Proclamation: Yes
OOC Information
Are there any reasons why you are applying to the UL: Not much other than to come back here
Why do you think the United Left is a good fit for you: Because I'm a Socialist, both IC and OOC
What do you think you can contribute to the UL: Lots. For one thing, Propaganda
I believe Alo knows about said transaction.
Roleplay Examples: Hej
Do not remove - Social2478
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:29 pmFurry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Back again?The High Lords wrote:-snip-
I might as well fill out my app.THE UNITED LEFTAPPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORMSECTION ONE
Nation Information
Official National Name: The Democratic Socialist Republic of Alairia and Algeria
Short National Name: Alairia and Algeria
Abbreviated Form: A&A
National Population (RP): Using NS Stats. Unrealistic, I admit.
National Tech Era: MT.
Map:
Regional Map: (Optional)SECTION TWO
Ambassador Information
Name: Yusiddah Sayamn
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Health concerns: Back Problems
Biography: Yusiddah was born in Northern Algerian, before the unification of Algeria, lived under a Capitalist System, as a dirt poor girl. She was enlisted into the Algerian Nationalists, a terrorist group for Northern Algerian, by her father, who had formerly been accused of first-degree murder of her mother. She lived under the Algerian Nationalists as a poor girl, completely separated by her alcoholic father. She was later accused of killing her father, only to be acquitted by Matt Engarde, and she then went to school under Matt's guidance. She followed in Matt's steps, and was able to leave her father and soon left to Socialist Algerian, before the unification of Northern Algeria and Socialist Algeria. She grew up to be a successful defense attorney, and soon became a judge at age 34. Only five years later, her mentor, Matt Engarde, committed suicide, and she attempted to kill herself, only to fail. She was completely alone, and had a severe co-dependency problem, and soon got rid of that problem with therapy, and soon became attached with his son, James Engarde. They both became politicians, and she now works under him.SECTION THREE
Economy Information
Economic System: Socialist
Economic Stage: Slight Growth
Currency: Alairian Peso/Algerian Dinar
Exchange Rate to NSD: .72->1.00
GDP: Math
GDP per capita: More math
HDI: Much More MathSECTION FOUR
Society Information
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): YesSECTION FIVE
Policy Information
GOVERNMENT
Government Type: Democratic Oligarchies (Five different Councils0 mixed with a Congressional Republic
Head of State: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algera
Head of Government: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Legislature: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Legislature: Juniper Moore(Only de-facto)
Judiciary: Supreme Court of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Judiciary: Niyassa Batista
Political Ideologies: Socialism, Secularism, Nationalism, Communism
FOREIGN POLICY
Known enemies, rivals: N/A
DEFCON level: N/A
Known allied nations: N/A
Other Alliance Memberships: N/A
Foreign Policy: Peaceful and quaint, until actions deemed necessary are levied uponSECTION SIX
Military Information
Name of Military:
Commander In Chief: Major-General Qudsiyah Shadiyah
Active Military Personnel: 121,000
Reserve Military Personnel: 79,000
Military Budget: 2.12 Million NSDSECTION SEVENDo you agree to abide by the People's Proclamation: Yes
OOC Information
Are there any reasons why you are applying to the UL: Not much other than to come back here
Why do you think the United Left is a good fit for you: Because I'm a Socialist, both IC and OOC
What do you think you can contribute to the UL: Lots. For one thing, Propaganda
I believe Alo knows about said transaction.
Roleplay Examples: HejDo not remove - Social2478
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:40 pmFurry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Back again?The High Lords wrote:-snip-
I might as well fill out my app.THE UNITED LEFTAPPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORMSECTION ONE
Nation Information
Official National Name: The Democratic Socialist Republic of Alairia and Algeria
Short National Name: Alairia and Algeria
Abbreviated Form: A&A
National Population (RP): Using NS Stats. Unrealistic, I admit.
National Tech Era: MT.
Map:
Regional Map: (Optional)SECTION TWO
Ambassador Information
Name: Yusiddah Sayamn
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Health concerns: Back Problems
Biography: Yusiddah was born in Northern Algerian, before the unification of Algeria, lived under a Capitalist System, as a dirt poor girl. She was enlisted into the Algerian Nationalists, a terrorist group for Northern Algerian, by her father, who had formerly been accused of first-degree murder of her mother. She lived under the Algerian Nationalists as a poor girl, completely separated by her alcoholic father. She was later accused of killing her father, only to be acquitted by Matt Engarde, and she then went to school under Matt's guidance. She followed in Matt's steps, and was able to leave her father and soon left to Socialist Algerian, before the unification of Northern Algeria and Socialist Algeria. She grew up to be a successful defense attorney, and soon became a judge at age 34. Only five years later, her mentor, Matt Engarde, committed suicide, and she attempted to kill herself, only to fail. She was completely alone, and had a severe co-dependency problem, and soon got rid of that problem with therapy, and soon became attached with his son, James Engarde. They both became politicians, and she now works under him.SECTION THREE
Economy Information
Economic System: Socialist
Economic Stage: Slight Growth
Currency: Alairian Peso/Algerian Dinar
Exchange Rate to NSD: .72->1.00
GDP: Math
GDP per capita: More math
HDI: Much More MathSECTION FOUR
Society Information
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): YesSECTION FIVE
Policy Information
GOVERNMENT
Government Type: Democratic Oligarchies (Five different Councils0 mixed with a Congressional Republic
Head of State: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algera
Head of Government: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Legislature: Honorary Council of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Legislature: Juniper Moore(Only de-facto)
Judiciary: Supreme Court of Alairia and Algeria
Head of Judiciary: Niyassa Batista
Political Ideologies: Socialism, Secularism, Nationalism, Communism
FOREIGN POLICY
Known enemies, rivals: N/A
DEFCON level: N/A
Known allied nations: N/A
Other Alliance Memberships: N/A
Foreign Policy: Peaceful and quaint, until actions deemed necessary are levied uponSECTION SIX
Military Information
Name of Military:
Commander In Chief: Major-General Qudsiyah Shadiyah
Active Military Personnel: 121,000
Reserve Military Personnel: 79,000
Military Budget: 2.12 Million NSDSECTION SEVENDo you agree to abide by the People's Proclamation: Yes
OOC Information
Are there any reasons why you are applying to the UL: Not much other than to come back here
Why do you think the United Left is a good fit for you: Because I'm a Socialist, both IC and OOC
What do you think you can contribute to the UL: Lots. For one thing, Propaganda
I believe Alo knows about said transaction.
Roleplay Examples: HejDo not remove - Social2478
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:44 pmThe UL Administrator wrote:Alairia and Algeria is Accepted, as long as they can agree to not actively cause OOC drama.
-Zunkwentania, United Left Commissar
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:48 pmPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:31 pm
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