International Freedom Coalition (SignUp2/OOC)

[Torrumbarry]

Krjder...

You, sir, got spunk...

[Valaran]

Guys.... what's wrong now?

My next post on the forums will be my last. Goodbye NS.

If you're certain, but I'm really sorry to see you go. Take care.

[New Aeyariss]

A word in your ears. Those are nuclear ICBMs, not just ICBMs.

1) Because US totally nuked China after Titan Rain. Titan Rain were biggest cyber-attacks in the world, and everybody accused china because of it - had US nuked china?

2) 8 ICBMs, even if nuclear - is not something that my BMD cannot deal with. Even with your 10 planes, you are hitting 9 billion nation with it - I can realistically speak that damage will be minor. In return I will counterattack with force that will turn Krjder into field of Glass.

3) If you ignore the attack, I believe that SACTO has better thing to do than exchange words with you.

[Torrumbarry]

I think I should form a petition for this thread to be retconned so that Krjder can hang around...

[Common Territories]

A word in your ears. Those are nuclear ICBMs, not just ICBMs.

So are the ones we are about to return to you in droves. If you cannot defend against cyber attacks, then you can count the millions upon millions of people we are about to target gone. We know how to defend against ICBMs. Do you?

Libraria and Ausitoria: I'd love to see how your nukes would make it past me. I'd love to see you explain how because quite frankly I doubt you could. Im not very conspiracy like in the thought you convinced him behind curtains - but I could be wrong in that - and im more then sure he took your constant nuke threats against us to heart as saying "Yes! I'll use nukes next time!" So if you're not directly responsible for giving him the idea, you are responsible for waving that idea around like suggesting a place to eat while with your friends.

[Valaran]

I think I should form a petition for this thread to be retconned so that Krjder can hang around...

I'd second this.


though I did love my news post on that thread.

[New Aeyariss]

Just a note: I proposed Krjder a RETCON some time ago on TG.

[Valaran]

Just a note: I proposed Krjder a RETCON some time ago on TG.

That had foresight then. I say we go with it, pending Krjder's own decision.

[Torrumbarry]

A word in your ears. Those are nuclear ICBMs, not just ICBMs.

So are the ones we are about to return to you in droves. If you cannot defend against cyber attacks, then you can count the millions upon millions of people we are about to target gone. We know how to defend against ICBMs. Do you?

Well, he did defend against your cyber-attacks...

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Didn't I read earlier that Krjder's entire internet has been shut down, destroying the entire banking sector and bringing the entire nation to a halt? Without internet most countries would run out of food in three days, never mind the end of the rest of modern society. Law and order would collapse. How do you think the US would react to that sort of thing?

Common Territories, very simply: firing a lot of them. Most ballistic missile submarines have a few hundred warheads. Any decent navy will have at least a dozen. But it's not about to happen, because I would stop the RP long before then as a complete time-waster.

Guys.... what's wrong now?

Driving RPers to leave NS is what's wrong.

[Valaran]

Guys.... what's wrong now?

Driving RPers to leave NS is what's wrong.

I never thought I'd say this (considering how I hard I argued against it), but Atlas' canon split is looking awfully tempting now.

I'm tired of hearing about these problems.

[New Aeyariss]

@Valaran: SACTO never tried to force Krjder out of NS.

[Valaran]

@Valaran: SACTO never tried to force Krjder out of NS.

But in so many RPs, these problems keep recurring, to the point I am tired of it, whoever is to blame (and really, I feel its collective, or at least a significant number of us).

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Driving RPers to leave NS is what's wrong.

I never thought I'd say this (considering how I hard I argued against it), but Atlas' canon split is looking awfully tempting now.

I know the feeling. I never thought I'd say this (considering how I vetoed it), but Hemithea's proposed canon split is also looking awfully tempting...

Should we name SACTO the destroyer of NS continuity, open RPs, and cosmopolitanism?

[New Aeyariss]

@Valaran: SACTO never tried to force Krjder out of NS.

But in so many RPs, these problems keep recurring, to the point I am tired of it, whoever is to blame (and really, I feel its collective, or at least a significant number of us).

Well ironically we never had such problems with Guadalupador (and we fought him for really like long time), heck, even Souriya Al-Assad was not problematic.....

It are always people from the "Atlas Group" which cause problems....

[Valaran]

I never thought I'd say this (considering how I hard I argued against it), but Atlas' canon split is looking awfully tempting now.

I know the feeling. I never thought I'd say this (considering how I vetoed it), but Hemithea's proposed canon split is also looking awfully tempting...

Should we name SACTO the destroyer of NS continuity, open RPs, and cosmopolitanism?

Unlucky :/

But maybe it might be best.

I still think its collective, and the balme certainly isn't down a single group though. Its a general intractability mixed with confrontation... and honestly a lack of trust, reasonableness and cooperation.

[Valaran]

Well ironically we never had such problems with Guadalupador (and we fought him for really like long time), heck, even Souriya Al-Assad was not problematic.....

It are always people from the "Atlas Group" which cause problems....

That's funny, because laying blame like that is exactly what you asked us not to do to you


And considering I've just its not one group, that's awfully like finger pointing.

[New Aeyariss]

Ironically SACTO has not destroyed a single thing..... As one guy on SACTO chat spoke a seconds ago: "I really get the vibe that IFC does not want to fight us, that the feel antagonized by us, and that our persistence in doing so is pissing them off a great deal OOCly."

[Krjder]

I'll defend both parties now.

Most of this boils down to Inyursta's constant harrryinh of me. My only real anger is for him. New Aeyariss, you've bugged me ICly, but I like you OOCly, you're a really nice guy. But I'm fed up of SACTO's warmongering. So, like one might throw sticks at a wasps nest expecting some resistance but laughable at that, I'm about to unleash the swarm. Those ICBMs are a mere warning, a last chance for you to backdown.

Krjder, doubtless will go down in flames. Centuries of culture, history and bravery flushed away, but hopefully SACTO have learned a small lesson. I've got RL stuff to deal with, now is an opportunity to let Krjder go.

[Valaran]

Ironically SACTO has not destroyed a single thing..... As one guy on SACTO chat spoke a seconds ago: "I really get the vibe that IFC does not want to fight us, that they feel antagonized by us, and that our persistence in doing so is pissing them off a great deal OOCly."

Honestly? It kinda is. Though I certainly don't speak for every IFC member, and was happy for a war once, the arguing is ridiculous, and makes it rather plain that this will never be as fun as anyone hoped.

[New Aeyariss]

Well I have to confirm that this arguing is something neither SACTO nor IFC wants.

[Valaran]

Well I have to confirm that this arguing is something neither SACTO nor IFC wants.

At least we can agree on that

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Ironically SACTO has not destroyed a single thing..... As one guy on SACTO chat spoke a seconds ago: "I really get the vibe that IFC does not want to fight us, that the feel antagonized by us, and that our persistence in doing so is pissing them off a great deal OOCly."

Well, ICly I think you've suddenly decided you want to destroy us, and OOCly we don't want to be destroyed, as we kinda like our nations, so... surprise surprise, you're not about to get what you want.

That's my explanation, anyway. There are many possible solutions to that problem.

[Mizrad]

Well I have to confirm that this arguing is something neither SACTO nor IFC wants.

Indeed. Why don't we all focus on working together and fighting the organizations that are really screwing things up if we want to fight somebody?

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Well I have to confirm that this arguing is something neither SACTO nor IFC wants.

Indeed. Why don't we all focus on working together and fighting the organizations that are really screwing things up if we want to fight somebody?

Well, when some SACTO members see a liberal, they immediately start yelling 'communists!' until eventually all of Ausitorian society starts rolling around on the floor laughing and handing out drama awards.