Santiago Anti Communist Treaty Organisation (SEMI OPEN)

[El Cuscatlan]

Congratulations, you've made it past the first round of application. You'll be given an interview via El Cuscatlan or another founder tomorrow, or during a time period that follows. If you have any questions, feel free to ask any of the founders, myself included.

I admire your flag.

Themisclesia, I do not mean to offend you, but this thread is not a chat. I would be very thankful if such trival matters would be told via TG.

That said, if you have any stuff connected to the SACTO, feel free to post.

[Themiclesia]

I admire your flag.

Themisclesia, I do not mean to offend you, but this thread is not a chat. I would be very thankful if such trival matters would be told via TG.

That said, if you have any stuff connected to the SACTO, feel free to post.

I thought members are automatically inherited from version to version?

[El Cuscatlan]

Themisclesia, I do not mean to offend you, but this thread is not a chat. I would be very thankful if such trival matters would be told via TG.

That said, if you have any stuff connected to the SACTO, feel free to post.

I thought members are automatically inherited from version to version?

You were member of Axis GEN II?

Then my apologizes. I will check and if you are - you shall be added. Again, sorry for the situation.

[Themiclesia]

I thought members are automatically inherited from version to version?

You were member of Axis GEN II?

Then my apologizes. I will check and if you are - you shall be added. Again, sorry for the situation.

Again, I'm sorry for this intrusion; I won't fault you if my membership has lapsed due to inactivity. I may have participated with my puppets in the past.

[Transoxthraxia]

Congratulations, you've made it past the first round of application. You'll be given an interview via El Cuscatlan or another founder tomorrow, or during a time period that follows. If you have any questions, feel free to ask any of the founders, myself included.

I admire your flag.

Thank you! And no, please stay.

[Themiclesia]

I was added as a member on Mar. 23rd, 2014, to wit here, by Asigna, and here confirmed, and here carried over into the second incarnation, and here into the third incarnation.

[El Cuscatlan]

You are free to post here. Questions like that about Asigna are legitimate ones, I just want to ensure that this thread will not degenerate into F7 like what happened to UL.

And only GEN II members inherit membership in SACTO. After GEN II was formed, we decided to put less on amount of members, and more on quality and active people. GEN II is de sacto separate organisation, inheriting the name but working on different rules. SACTO is continuing it.

[Themiclesia]

You are free to post here. Questions like that about Asigna are legitimate ones, I just want to ensure that this thread will not degenerate into F7 like what happened to UL.

And only GEN II members inherit membership in SACTO. After GEN II was formed, we decided to put less on amount of members, and more on quality and active people. GEN II is de sacto separate organisation, inheriting the name but working on different rules. SACTO is continuing it.

I see. Thanks for the accommodation.

[El Cuscatlan]

You are free to post here. Questions like that about Asigna are legitimate ones, I just want to ensure that this thread will not degenerate into F7 like what happened to UL.

And only GEN II members inherit membership in SACTO. After GEN II was formed, we decided to put less on amount of members, and more on quality and active people. GEN II is de sacto separate organisation, inheriting the name but working on different rules. SACTO is continuing it.

I see. Thanks for the accommodation.

No problem also. Thanks and glad to have you here!

[Themiclesia]

I see. Thanks for the accommodation.

No problem also. Thanks and glad to have you here!

I'll fill out a membership form, since I gather it makes my presence IC and more official.

[El Cuscatlan]

No problem also. Thanks and glad to have you here!

I'll fill out a membership form, since I gather it makes my presence IC and more official.

Sure, you are free to do so. Just for all interested, new recruitation has 2 phases:

1) Overseeing by first founder
2) Interview + confirmation by 2nd founder.

Just for all to know what awaits them.

[Themiclesia]

APPLICATION FORM

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National Information Section

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Nation's Full official Name: the States of Themiclesia
Nation's Short Name: Themiclesia

RP Population *: [mutable in regard to RP]

Government Type: feudal polyarchy.
Head of State: many, but the most prominent is king Ληλυκώς, of Pulos.
Head of Government: many, but the most prominent is prime minister Νηφῆλαι, of Pulos.

Main Political Ideology: no dominant ideology

GDP: $113 trillion, NSD, according to tracker
GDP (per capita): $80,500- NSD

Factbook Link:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=themiclesia/detail=factbook
Embassy Link: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=232947
National Map: I'll get to this later.

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Military Information Section *

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Overview

Total Active Personnel: 15,535
Total Reserve Personnel:60,000

% of National GDP for Defense Expenditure: We don't have a unified government, or a unified military budget; each state has her own military, but the average spent on military is 12%
% of Military Personnel from the total Population:< 1%

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Detailed Information

ARMY:
Active Personnel: 7,000
Reserve Personnel: 50,000
ORBAT: The king holds authority to summon lords to provide armies, but the lords remain sovereign over their forces; a detailed orbit is to come.

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NAVY:
Active Personnel: 2,000
Reserve Personnel: 10,000
ORBAT: This is to come.

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AIR FORCE:
Active Personnel: 1,000
Reserve Personnel: --
ORBAT: This is to come.

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OTHER:(Optional)
Active Personnel:
Reserve Personnel:
ORBAT: (Please provide as detailed as you can)

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Defense Doctrine
All the states are within the common fraternity for each other's defence; however, we don't have a unified doctrine because we don't have a unified armed force.

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Domestic & Foreign Policies Information Section

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Are You A Member of Other Alliances/Organization? Not as an active member.
Are You Currently Engaged in an Armed Conflict?No
What is/are the reason(s) on why your wants join this alliance? I have participated in distant incarnations of this organization, and wish to renew my commitment to several nations herein found.

Describe your nation's Foreign Policy: No unified foreign policy.
Describe your nation's Civil Rights Policy: We practise moral government, and that the government must strive to be perfect.
Describe your nation's Political Freedom Policy: We permit every freedom not explicitly deprived through law, and there are very few laws. But people are expected to govern themselves with good judgment and sound virtue.

Have your nations committed any 'questionable acts' or any violations of human rights, war crimes? Yes.
Do you plan on RP-ing violating human rights or commit war crimes?* No.

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Out Of Character Information Section

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(This entire section is optional with the exception of the Roleplay Examples,it will let us knows you personally more and influence your membership process. Feel free to answer those you wish to and leave those you want to remain private.)

Age: 19
Education Level:Undergraduate, history major
RL Country: Canada

Do You Have RL Military Training? No.
What skills or knowledge do you can contribute/share to our community? Detailed understanding of feudal Chinese history and the Archaic period in Greece; a less detailed understanding of the rest of Chinese history and that of the Roman republic and empire, largely from a political point of view. I am also experienced somewhat in legal history, especially the English common law.

ROLEPLAY EXAMPLES * :(This is compulsory. You may provide as many examples as you wish but you must provide at least one best example. If you do not have RP records, please write a sample by writing whatever story you like. Please take notice, this is one of the key aspect we're looking for when reviewing new membership.)
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(I gather these two should be sufficient, but in case not, please TG me.)

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Note: The section marked with * is our primary evaluation aspects.
Please do not tamper and fill in every section as best as you can. Processing can take up to 48 hours, and a decision may take up to a full working week. Be patience, we will do our best to inform the decision personally via TG. If you feel neglected or wish to appeal to our decisions feel free to contact any Founding Members. Good luck. Axis invictus.
TAG:SACTOFORM123 (Do not remove this)

[The Black Plains]

OOC: Don't mean to be a bother, but have you decided one way or the other on my offer?

[Reploid Productions]

I'm still not getting in his f***ing vans. If he wants to get into that embassy I'll blow it to smithereens or he can do me the favor of blowing it himself.

This is why fucking diplomacy is a bullshit concept devised by the ruling classical elite as a way of using the common man as pawns, and now it's championed by LIEberal pansies who would rather talk peace with dictators and terrorists than make a fucking stand on anything useful.

My Foreign Policy: If its not worth shooting Tomahawks over, then it's none of our business...

Let's see... pretty clearly OOC post, excessively nasty tone, and trolling/political nicknaming I'd expect to have to deal with in an NSG debate thread. Plus a prior two-week forumban with pretty clear threat of deletion should such shenanigans continue, and after about a year of keeping a clean record, another warning for more of the same.

Given that this post contains examples of the exact same behaviors that got you in trouble a year ago, and the recent warning shows that you haven't fixed the problem behaviors, I cannot in good conscience let this off with just a warning. So while you dodge the deletion Transnapastain promised you a year ago if you acted up again, you still get *** a one-week ban for trolling. *** I recommend on your return that you review the site rules and reconsider how you approach discussions with other players very carefully. That year with no new violations helped you avoid deletion this time, but those gaps count for less and less when the violations remain the same.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Quirina]

I wanna give myself a tight bear hug with all the successful politics I am looking at right now! Hmmmmmm. Tight.

[Volzhkov]

Requesting assistance to crush uprising
(I was allowed to post this, Cuscatlan said)

[Tevego]

Congratulations, you've made it past the first round of application. You'll be given an interview via El Cuscatlan or another founder tomorrow, or during a time period that follows. If you have any questions, feel free to ask any of the founders, myself included.

I admire your flag.

Thank you. I took the current Chilean flag, gave it the colors of the Patria Vieja flag, and replaced the star with the symbol of the Mapuche flag.

Edit: Yeah, I just saw the "This isn't a chat" reply to your comment, so I won't make any more OOC posts here.

[Themiclesia]

I admire your flag.

Thank you. I took the current Chilean flag, gave it the colors of the Patria Vieja flag, and replaced the star with the symbol of the Mapuche flag.

[El Cuscatlan]

I admire your flag.

Thank you. I took the current Chilean flag, gave it the colors of the Patria Vieja flag, and replaced the star with the symbol of the Mapuche flag.

Edit: Yeah, I just saw the "This isn't a chat" reply to your comment, so I won't make any more OOC posts here.

This thread is OOC.

Themisclesia, you have passed throught part 1. We shall interview you in nearest time. We can now if you want.

[Themiclesia]

Thank you. I took the current Chilean flag, gave it the colors of the Patria Vieja flag, and replaced the star with the symbol of the Mapuche flag.

Edit: Yeah, I just saw the "This isn't a chat" reply to your comment, so I won't make any more OOC posts here.

This thread is OOC.

Themisclesia, you have passed throught part 1. We shall interview you in nearest time. We can now if you want.

Pray do.

[Aeyariss]

1. Request for Assistance

Requesting assistance to crush uprising
(I was allowed to post this, Cuscatlan said)

Your request for assistance has been noted. The council shall deliberate on this matter as soon as possible.

2. Membership Applicants: (Current status for all: Reviewing, Processing)
Strategic Air Command.
Republic of Libanon
Republic of Tevego
Themiclesia

3. Business Proposal by the The Black Pains

[Asigna]

IMPORTANT TO NOTE

I was added as a member on Mar. 23rd, 2014, to wit here, by Asigna, and here confirmed, and here carried over into the second incarnation, and here into the third incarnation.

Oh. I just want to inform those who had not been heard by the (former) Axis pact is that they had been removed from the roster of the former Axis due to their inactivity. (Purge) That was the protocol back then.

Sorry dude.

However. You can always reapply.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I'll handle the request for assistance.

[Amiero]

What is the stance of SACTO and its member-states on Socialist & Communist political parties in democratic systems of government? What is your stance on nations which allow such parties to run in elections opposite non-Socialist/Communist parties, and acknowledge their victory if they win?

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

What is the stance of SACTO and its member-states on Socialist & Communist political parties in democratic systems of government? What is your stance on nations which allow such parties to run in elections opposite non-Socialist/Communist parties, and acknowledge their victory if they win?

I imagine it would be far more welcoming as opposed to staunch left-wing nations, however, as long as a fairly left-wing party was in in power, it'd be not very friendly stance