The United Left (OOC/SIGNUPS/4.0)

[Roski]

Or, another option. Athenian Democracy.

You can't be based of the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics and use DIRECT DEMOCRACY

[Bojikami]

Or, another option. Athenian Democracy.

You can't be based of the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics and use DIRECT DEMOCRACY

When was it ever said we were based off of the USSR?

[Roski]

You can't be based of the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics and use DIRECT DEMOCRACY

When was it ever said we were based off of the USSR?

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

[Zoboyizakoplayoklot]

When was it ever said we were based off of the USSR?

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

I'm not authoritarian.

[Bojikami]

When was it ever said we were based off of the USSR?

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

Democracy/Direct Democracy isn't rightist.

[The United Motherland]

When was it ever said we were based off of the USSR?

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

... No.

I am honestly offended by the amount of how you thought of that.

Economics is different than a political system. You can have a right-wing dictatorship, and you can have a left. Democracy does not stay to one side.

[Roski]

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

... No.

I am honestly offended by the amount of how you thought of that.

Economics is different than a political system. You can have a right-wing dictatorship, and you can have a left. Democracy does not stay to one side.

Direct Democracy is rightist.
A republican form of government is more leftist.

[The United Motherland]

... No.

I am honestly offended by the amount of how you thought of that.

Economics is different than a political system. You can have a right-wing dictatorship, and you can have a left. Democracy does not stay to one side.

Direct Democracy is rightist.
A republican form of government is more leftist.

No.

A lot of nations can have a directly democratic government that is leftist. A lot of people that are leftists, especially some of the more extreme ones, call for a direct democracy WAY more than the right does.

[Bojikami]

... No.

I am honestly offended by the amount of how you thought of that.

Economics is different than a political system. You can have a right-wing dictatorship, and you can have a left. Democracy does not stay to one side.

Direct Democracy is rightist.
A republican form of government is more leftist.

No. There is a difference between political and economic thought. Dictatorships and Democracies of both natures work on both wings.

[Roski]

The fact that most of the countries in here are Left-Wing Authoritiarian Governments, and which is based of the USSR.

Point it, you can't be United Left and then use Rightist policies.

I'm not authoritarian.

So, if this alliance isn't against Freedoms, why are you against the International Freedom Coalition?
That doesn't add up to me.

"Hey, I don't like the IFC"
"Lets literally make the most political freedoms possible"

[Bojikami]

I'm not authoritarian.

So, if this alliance isn't against Freedoms, why are you against the International Freedom Coalition?
That doesn't add up to me.

"Hey, I don't like the IFC"
"Lets literally make the most political freedoms possible"

We aren't against you guys. You guys are against us.

If the former is true, it probably has to so with Ardoki.

[Roski]

Direct Democracy is rightist.
A republican form of government is more leftist.

No. There is a difference between political and economic thought. Dictatorships and Democracies of both natures work on both wings.

A republican form of government works on the equality of vote (Equality is a leftist ideal)
A Direct Democracy is Mob Rules (A rightist idea)
Yes, they do work both ways, but understand that you have the extremes (Stalinism, which supports Civil Freedoms to a point, then Fascism, which does not support any freedom what so ever).

I understand the difference.
Political Systems however don't have their own rules.

[The United Motherland]

I'm not authoritarian.

So, if this alliance isn't against Freedoms, why are you against the International Freedom Coalition?
That doesn't add up to me.

"Hey, I don't like the IFC"
"Lets literally make the most political freedoms possible"

Well. If anything, the battle does not include political conflict, it mostly includes economical conflict of ideals.

[Roski]

So, if this alliance isn't against Freedoms, why are you against the International Freedom Coalition?
That doesn't add up to me.

"Hey, I don't like the IFC"
"Lets literally make the most political freedoms possible"

Well. If anything, the battle does not include political conflict, it mostly includes economical conflict of ideals.

You are fighting over economic systems?
That definently makes -10 sense.

[The United Motherland]

Well. If anything, the battle does not include political conflict, it mostly includes economical conflict of ideals.

You are fighting over economic systems?
That definently makes -10 sense.

No. But there are also many OTHER reasons.

You really are taking a lot out of the scope dude.

And, the United Left has offered to Cooperate with the IFC in the past many, MANY times. Only recently has that reversed due to IFC changing from totally neutral to slightly aggressive.

[Roski]

You are fighting over economic systems?
That definently makes -10 sense.

No. But there are also many OTHER reasons.

You really are taking a lot out of the scope dude.

And, the United Left has offered to Cooperate with the IFC in the past many, MANY times. Only recently has that reversed due to IFC changing from totally neutral to slightly aggressive.

Who's been agressive?
Valaran?
Bratislav?

[The United Motherland]

No. But there are also many OTHER reasons.

You really are taking a lot out of the scope dude.

And, the United Left has offered to Cooperate with the IFC in the past many, MANY times. Only recently has that reversed due to IFC changing from totally neutral to slightly aggressive.

Who's been agressive?
Valaran?
Bratislav?

The IFC at general.

With the fall of the UL opposition, IFC and UL have been focusing on each other a lot more.

And, it mostly kicked off when one of our members were sanctioned officially by the IFC. Which although it was slightly wreckless what he did, it was officially by IFC, and Counter-Sanctions were almost about to be measured.

[Roski]

Who's been agressive?
Valaran?
Bratislav?

The IFC at general.

With the fall of the UL opposition, IFC and UL have been focusing on each other a lot more.

And, it mostly kicked off when one of our members were sanctioned officially by the IFC. Which although it was slightly wreckless what he did, it was officially by IFC, and Counter-Sanctions were almost about to be measured.

So why does the United Left care? One of your members attacked one of ours. We sanctioned him.
Instead of launching a conflict. So why do you care. If it were the IFC, unless everyone hated that target, he would have been left to his own resources.

[The United Motherland]

The IFC at general.

With the fall of the UL opposition, IFC and UL have been focusing on each other a lot more.

And, it mostly kicked off when one of our members were sanctioned officially by the IFC. Which although it was slightly wreckless what he did, it was officially by IFC, and Counter-Sanctions were almost about to be measured.

So why does the United Left care? One of your members attacked one of ours. We sanctioned him.
Instead of launching a conflict. So why do you care. If it were the IFC, unless everyone hated that target, he would have been left to his own resources.

The real question is. Why didn't the IFC tell us so we could take care of it?

You jumped into a hasty decision without consulting us; which we could've stopped the Advance along with the enemy.

Also. IFC members support our enemies, constantly. Chazicaria, Frelsia...

[Roski]

So why does the United Left care? One of your members attacked one of ours. We sanctioned him.
Instead of launching a conflict. So why do you care. If it were the IFC, unless everyone hated that target, he would have been left to his own resources.

The real question is. Why didn't the IFC tell us so we could take care of it?

You jumped into a hasty decision without consulting us; which we could've stopped the Advance along with the enemy.

Also. IFC members support our enemies, constantly. Chazicaria, Frelsia...

If I remember, our Foreign minister, Val, told us to mind our business for Chazicaria.
I also remember a lot of abstains. The victory of the bill in the IFC council was by a very, VERY small margin, if I remember correctly.

The IFC as a whole does not dislike the IFC. We have a few people that are trying to be the voice of 108 memberstates.

[The United Motherland]

The real question is. Why didn't the IFC tell us so we could take care of it?

You jumped into a hasty decision without consulting us; which we could've stopped the Advance along with the enemy.

Also. IFC members support our enemies, constantly. Chazicaria, Frelsia...

If I remember, our Foreign minister, Val, told us to mind our business for Chazicaria.
I also remember a lot of abstains. The victory of the bill in the IFC council was by a very, VERY small margin, if I remember correctly.

The IFC as a whole does not dislike the IFC. We have a few people that are trying to be the voice of 108 memberstates.

What he tells you won't change a damn, naturally. Your all very free willed.


Nonetheless, watching your summit thread. Seeya

[The United Motherland]

UL

God dammit.

waek up

Convists aer winning in frelz

we need to sekure

[Republic of Vietnam]

UL

God dammit.

waek up

Convists aer winning in frelz

we need to sekure

Uh oh...

[Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan]

UL

God dammit.

waek up

Convists aer winning in frelz

we need to sekure

darn it. I need to kill them. Coup against the legitamite government and all that.

[The United Motherland]

UL

God dammit.

waek up

Convists aer winning in frelz

we need to sekure

Uh oh...

Yeah. Frelz just said the next are going to be da convists seizing powor