Union of Free States - UFS

[Union of Free Countries]

Application for Accession

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> Basic
Information
Full name of nation: Republic of Fondia
Name of President (or
equal): Joko Widodo
Name of Prime Minister (or
equal): president also head of government
Name of Foreign Affairs
Minister: Mr. Himsa Kaso
Name of Defense Minister: Mr. Sudharmono
Name of Economy & Economic
Development Minister: Mr. Frenza Sarmilien
Name of Health and Social
Policy Minister: Mss. Selina Mignoun
Name of Internal Affairs
and Justice Minister: Mss. Dinda Hollanda
Name of Education,
Culture, Science, Sport & Youth Minister: Mr. Hamzah Haz
> Other Information
Will you be active on
Council & Commission meetings ? I hope often
Will you often propose new ideas and documents to
Commission and how often ? yes, once every 2 weeks and could more if not busy
Is your state democratic ? sure

Accepted

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[Union of Free Countries]

Application for Accession

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> Basic Information
Full name of nation: The Imperial Warglorian Empire/Reich
Name of President (or equal): Klaus Adler
Name of Prime Minister (or equal): Claus Adler (relative of said ruler, names often mixed up)
Name of Foreign Affairs Minister: Hans Auswärtiges
Name of Defense Minister: Henreich Verteidigung
Name of Economy&Economic Development Minister: Carl Schmidt
Name of Health and Social Policy Minister: Otto Günther
Name of Internal Affairs and Justice Minister: Wilhelm Fegalen
Name of Education, Culture, Science, Sport&Youth Minister: Manfred Wolfgang
> Other Information Nation's priorities is on military and science
Will you be active on Council&Commission meetings ? depends on time zone difference
Will you often propose new ideas and documents to Commission and how often ? If I can think of any
Is your state democratic ?

In a way, shall I explain my government? (warning, very complicated, I think)

Accepted

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[Semolia]

I done Free Travel Agreement. Member states that are interested can view and post their opinion.

[Chkalovsk]

I done Free Travel Agreement. Member states that are interested can view and post their opinion.

"*this is just draft, some states won’t enter in FTZ"

but then

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

??

[Semolia]

I done Free Travel Agreement. Member states that are interested can view and post their opinion.

"*this is just draft, some states won’t enter in FTZ"

but then

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

??

What is wrong with that? You won't be part of FTZ if your Parliament doesn't approve this Agreement. That's decision of your Parliament.

[The United Remnants of America]

"*this is just draft, some states won’t enter in FTZ"

but then

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

??

What is wrong with that? You won't be part of FTZ if your Parliament doesn't approve this Agreement. That's decision of your Parliament.

That's not what that second phrase says.

[Semolia]

What is wrong with that? You won't be part of FTZ if your Parliament doesn't approve this Agreement. That's decision of your Parliament.

That's not what that second phrase says.

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

[The United Remnants of America]

That's not what that second phrase says.

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

Correct. The wording on that phrase is intensely misleading, since it shows that the agreement must be ratified and when it is ratified, it is mandatory to implement.

First, no shit, it's mandatory to implement upon ratification, otherwise the ratification process is a waste of time, so since that's redundant, the phrasing shows an expectation that the agreement will be ratified, meaning there is no voluntary procedure.

[Semolia]

"Every state is mandatory to implement this Agreement when it’s ratified in Free States Council and National Parliaments of member states."

Correct. The wording on that phrase is intensely misleading, since it shows that the agreement must be ratified and when it is ratified, it is mandatory to implement.

First, no shit, it's mandatory to implement upon ratification, otherwise the ratification process is a waste of time, so since that's redundant, the phrasing shows an expectation that the agreement will be ratified, meaning there is no voluntary procedure.

Did you read Article 5? I don't understand what is the problem. If your Government wants to enter in FTZ it is logically that Parliament will approve FTZ. So, that phrase show expectation for reason. If your Government doesn't want to enter in FTZ, Minister of FA will activate Article 5 and your state will be excepted. In that case, voting in Assembly won't happen, because government doesn't want that agreement. Government proposes to Parliament agreements that they want, if your govenment doesn't like this Agreement they won't propose it to Parliament. So, in that case ratification won't happen.

[The United Remnants of America]

Correct. The wording on that phrase is intensely misleading, since it shows that the agreement must be ratified and when it is ratified, it is mandatory to implement.

First, no shit, it's mandatory to implement upon ratification, otherwise the ratification process is a waste of time, so since that's redundant, the phrasing shows an expectation that the agreement will be ratified, meaning there is no voluntary procedure.

Did you read Article 5? I don't understand what is the problem. If your Government wants to enter in FTZ it is logically that Parliament will approve FTZ. So, that phrase show expectation for reason. If your Government doesn't want to enter in FTZ, Minister of FA will activate Article 5 and your state will be excepted. In that case, voting in Assembly won't happen, because government doesn't want that agreement. Government proposes to Parliament agreements that they want, if your govenment doesn't like this Agreement they won't propose it to Parliament. So, in that case ratification won't happen.

What's "parliament" in your explanation?

[Semolia]

Did you read Article 5? I don't understand what is the problem. If your Government wants to enter in FTZ it is logically that Parliament will approve FTZ. So, that phrase show expectation for reason. If your Government doesn't want to enter in FTZ, Minister of FA will activate Article 5 and your state will be excepted. In that case, voting in Assembly won't happen, because government doesn't want that agreement. Government proposes to Parliament agreements that they want, if your govenment doesn't like this Agreement they won't propose it to Parliament. So, in that case ratification won't happen.

What's "parliament" in your explanation?

My explanation about FTZ was pretty good, I won't talk longer about that. About Parliament:
Parliament is legislative body of one state. Parliament is one of three pillars of one country. Parliament broughts decisions proposed by executive body of one state or other important political person (as King, President). Parliament can be unicameral and bicameral. Unicameral Parliament is parliament when there is only one house of representatives. Like, Narodna Skupština in Serbia. Bicameral Parliament is parliament when there are two houses of representatives. Like, Cortes Generales in Spain. In Spain there are Senado (upper house) and Congreso de los Disputados (lower house).

[The United Remnants of America]

What's "parliament" in your explanation?

My explanation about FTZ was pretty good, I won't talk longer about that. About Parliament:
Parliament is legislative body of one state. Parliament is one of three pillars of one country. Parliament broughts decisions proposed by executive body of one state or other important political person (as King, President). Parliament can be unicameral and bicameral. Unicameral Parliament is parliament when there is only one house of representatives. Like, Narodna Skupština in Serbia. Bicameral Parliament is parliament when there are two houses of representatives. Like, Cortes Generales in Spain. In Spain there are Senado (upper house) and Congreso de los Disputados (lower house).

I didn't ask what a parliament was, I was asking what parliament referred to.

I'm just going to assume you mean it refers to the legislative bodies of member states.

Which means that I can bypass this agreement altogether.

[Asigna]

What's "parliament" in your explanation?

My explanation about FTZ was pretty good, I won't talk longer about that. About Parliament:
Parliament is legislative body of one state. Parliament is one of three pillars of one country. Parliament broughts decisions proposed by executive body of one state or other important political person (as King, President). Parliament can be unicameral and bicameral. Unicameral Parliament is parliament when there is only one house of representatives. Like, Narodna Skupština in Serbia. Bicameral Parliament is parliament when there are two houses of representatives. Like, Cortes Generales in Spain. In Spain there are Senado (upper house) and Congreso de los Disputados (lower house).

This is most fair. I've been hearing bad things about the UFS and at least they have now been dispelled.

[Semolia]

My explanation about FTZ was pretty good, I won't talk longer about that. About Parliament:
Parliament is legislative body of one state. Parliament is one of three pillars of one country. Parliament broughts decisions proposed by executive body of one state or other important political person (as King, President). Parliament can be unicameral and bicameral. Unicameral Parliament is parliament when there is only one house of representatives. Like, Narodna Skupština in Serbia. Bicameral Parliament is parliament when there are two houses of representatives. Like, Cortes Generales in Spain. In Spain there are Senado (upper house) and Congreso de los Disputados (lower house).

This is most fair. I've been hearing bad things about the UFS and at least they have now been dispelled.

Which bad things you heard?

[Semolia]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)
12) National Organizations in charge for Road, Rail, Air and Water Transport (and their e-mail, address and telephone number(write telephone number with calling code for your state))

[Zandill]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)

Holy sweet mother of god. This is the most beautiful document I have ever seen!

[Semolia]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)
12) National Organizations in charge for Road, Rail, Air and Water Transport (and their e-mail, address and telephone number (write telephone number with calling code for your state))

Holy sweet mother of god. This is the most beautiful document I have ever seen!

Thank you, but post this 11 informations, so we can make a dispatch.

[The United Remnants of America]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)

Holy sweet mother of god. This is the most beautiful document I have ever seen!

That's the most intensive group factbook-in-progress I think I've ever seen.

[Semolia]

Many states are often vetoing Agreements, we should be more careful and request Consultations if we don't agree with something.

[Chkalovsk]

If you could kindly not spam my inbox.

[Semolia]

If you could kindly not spam my inbox.

If you aren't active, it is normally that you will be spamed.

[Chkalovsk]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)
12) National Organizations in charge for Road, Rail, Air and Water Transport (and their e-mail, address and telephone number(write telephone number with calling code for your state))

Being the capitalist-nationalist state we are, I imaginr wr will have a few disagreements. Chkalovsk has abolished all speed limits, and roads, rail, air and water transport are all run independently by private organizations, under the final say of the government. Furthermore we find the 'one license plate' policy absurd and will continue to use regular national license plates.

[Chkalovsk]

If you could kindly not spam my inbox.

If you aren't active, it is normally that you will be spamed.

I am active, I just have a TG ban.
Now stop sending my TGs.
Its annoying.
My skype is listed below for a reason.

[The United Remnants of America]

I also made Transportation Agreement. What do you think?
In accordance with this Agreement member states must deliver to us information about their traffic regulations by next points:
1) Speed limits
2) Seat belts
3) Traffic lights
4) Alcohol limits
5) Influence of drugs
6) Forbidden lanes
7) Mobile telephones
8) Safety helmets
9) Other specific rules
10) Information on one driver licence
11) Look of one licence plate (WARNING: It is mandatory to have on left side mark of FSU flag and below flag two letters that represent your state, for example: Semolia- SM)
12) National Organizations in charge for Road, Rail, Air and Water Transport (and their e-mail, address and telephone number(write telephone number with calling code for your state))

Being the capitalist-nationalist state we are, I imaginr wr will have a few disagreements. Chkalovsk has abolished all speed limits, and roads, rail, air and water transport are all run independently by private organizations, under the final say of the government. Furthermore we find the 'one license plate' policy absurd and will continue to use regular national license plates.

Semi-agree.

For the most part, upkeep of infrastructure is run by private entities here, as well. And several of these rules would require the entirety of our infrastructure to be rebuilt from the ground up. So who would pay for that?

We also agree, especially since roughly 1.2 billion license plates would be... difficult to replace, both in terms of time and in terms of budget.

[Semolia]

Being the capitalist-nationalist state we are, I imaginr wr will have a few disagreements. Chkalovsk has abolished all speed limits, and roads, rail, air and water transport are all run independently by private organizations, under the final say of the government. Furthermore we find the 'one license plate' policy absurd and will continue to use regular national license plates.

Semi-agree.

For the most part, upkeep of infrastructure is run by private entities here, as well. And several of these rules would require the entirety of our infrastructure to be rebuilt from the ground up. So who would pay for that?

We also agree, especially since roughly 1.2 billion license plates would be... difficult to replace, both in terms of time and in terms of budget.

Why you all applied to enter in the Union when you are closed to cooperation?
URA is mandatory to registry vehicle on time limit in your state?