International Freedom Coalition (SignUp/OOC)

[The New Lowlands]

Your officers would have to be psychopaths to press the button, as would your president; if it comes to that, your nation is doomed already. It's a stupid plan that has no real purpose besides sounding cool. Use a nuclear deterrent instead.

I have a nuclear deterrent.
The viruses are actually more to kill half of the world with me. (at that point the nationalistic nation falling apart would make the entire government psychopathic)

The One Day Plague is to help the Roskian civilians avoid occupation and/or being arrested

That's ridiculously stupid- and also unrealistic.

[Roski]

I have a nuclear deterrent.
The viruses are actually more to kill half of the world with me. (at that point the nationalistic nation falling apart would make the entire government psychopathic)

The One Day Plague is to help the Roskian civilians avoid occupation and/or being arrested

That's ridiculously stupid- and also unrealistic.

Not really unrealistic.

Did you ever read about Japan in world war two?
Or SS officers in World War 2?

[The New Lowlands]

That's ridiculously stupid- and also unrealistic.

Not really unrealistic.

Did you ever read about Japan in world war two?
Or SS officers in World War 2?

Neither was part of a democratic government.

[Roski]

Not really unrealistic.

Did you ever read about Japan in world war two?
Or SS officers in World War 2?

Neither was part of a democratic government.

Nazi Germany was made by democracy. (Hitler was elected Chancellor)
Japan was monarchy.

And if you can't be psycopathic with a democratic government, then you aren't trying.

[The New Lowlands]

Neither was part of a democratic government.

Nazi Germany was made by democracy. (Hitler was elected Chancellor)
Japan was monarchy.

And if you can't be psycopathic with a democratic government, then you aren't trying.

The 'election' which got the Nazis into power was a sham.
A monarchy effectively run by a dictatorial oligarchy.

Not being psychopathic with a democratic government is called 'being realistic.'

[Corenea]

Roski, what are you going for?

So is the IFC going with removal of Roski or something?

[Roski]

Roski, what are you going for?

So is the IFC going with removal of Roski or something?

What do you mean?

The application was a joke application. I have said this to Valaran, I believe.

[The New Lowlands]

Roski, what are you going for?

So is the IFC going with removal of Roski or something?

I certainly hope so.

[Roski]

Nazi Germany was made by democracy. (Hitler was elected Chancellor)
Japan was monarchy.

And if you can't be psycopathic with a democratic government, then you aren't trying.

The 'election' which got the Nazis into power was a sham.
A monarchy effectively run by a dictatorial oligarchy.

Not being psychopathic with a democratic government is called 'being realistic.'

"Not Trying"


The American government is very psychopatic and built a military doctrine on wiping out the entire world.

[The New Lowlands]

The 'election' which got the Nazis into power was a sham.
A monarchy effectively run by a dictatorial oligarchy.

Not being psychopathic with a democratic government is called 'being realistic.'

"Not Trying"


The American government is very psychopatic and built a military doctrine on wiping out the entire world.

No, it didn't. American doctrine is AirLand and AirSea battle, being replaced (somewhat ambitiously) with Full Spectrum Operations.

[Roski]

Its a plague developed as a final solution by the Roskian Government.

This virus targets the Brain Stem, the Brain, and the Heart, and after an incubation period of 16 hours, proceeds to kill the host in less than ten minutes, to painlessly end the suffering of the Roskian people.

This plague would only be used if the possibility of Total Defeat of the Roskian Empire before a period of 24 Hours reaches 75%.

It is then launched globally via specialized nuclear weapons that launch a concussion, and then detonate after 30 seconds (the virus spreads out via the concussion).

It is an airborne virus with a very high infectivity rate and a very high death rate.

Large targets would be the Roskian capital itself, then every major city in the enemy who is defeating Roski.

Its very loosely based off of the Doctor Who Virus Chen 7, but the only feasible simularity is the "One Day Plague" name. The official name of the virus is Ferty-98

So you plan to slaughter billions of innocents if your country is threatened?

~400k is not billions.

[Roski]

"Not Trying"


The American government is very psychopatic and built a military doctrine on wiping out the entire world.

No, it didn't. American doctrine is AirLand and AirSea battle, being replaced (somewhat ambitiously) with Full Spectrum Operations.

And Mutually Assured Destruction (basically my doctrine)

[The New Lowlands]

No, it didn't. American doctrine is AirLand and AirSea battle, being replaced (somewhat ambitiously) with Full Spectrum Operations.

And Mutually Assured Destruction (basically my doctrine)

Mutually Assured Destruction isn't a doctrine, it's a political phenomenon which can be called into doubt.

[Roski]

And Mutually Assured Destruction (basically my doctrine)

Mutually Assured Destruction isn't a doctrine, it's a political phenomenon which can be called into doubt.

Mutally Assured Destruction, if in any event that the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics fired multiple nuclear warheads at the United States of America, The United Kingdom, The Republic of France, and/or The Federal Republic of Germany, that the United States would retaliate with equal or more firepower. Considering the Soviets would probably send enough to wipe out North America entirely, the United States would respond with the same amount, which doesn't just mean two North Americas blow up, but could mean a massive spread of radiation worldwide.

During the Cold War, the primary threat of an attack on the United States was viewed to be from the Soviet Union. In such an attack, nuclear warfare was projected to almost certainly happen, mainly in the form of Intercontinental ballistic missile attacks as well as Soviet Navy launches of SLBMs at U.S. coastal cities,[8]

The first Cold War strategy against a Soviet attack on the United States was developed in 1948, made into even firmer policy after the Soviet development of the atom bomb in 1949. By 1950, the United States had developed a defense plan to repel a Soviet nuclear bomber force through the use of interceptors and anti-aircraft missiles, while at the same time launching its own bomber fleet into Soviet airspace from bases in Alaska and Europe. By the end of the 1950s, both Soviet and U.S. strategy included nuclear submarines and long range nuclear missiles, both of which could strike in as little as ten to thirty minutes while bomber forces took as long as four to six hours to reach their targets. The concept thus developed of the nuclear triad where all three weapons platforms (land based, submarine, and bomber) would be coordinated in unison for a devastating first strike, followed by a counterstrike, accompanied by "mopping up" missions of nuclear bombers.

American nuclear warfare planning was nearly put to the test during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The subsequent blockade of Cuba also added a fourth element into American nuclear strategy, this being surface ships and the possibility of low yield nuclear attacks against deployed fleets. Reportedly, during the Cuban missile crisis, one Soviet submarine nearly launched a nuclear torpedo at an American warship, yet the three officers required to initiate the launch (the Captain, Executive Officer Vasili Arkhipov, and the Political Officer) could not agree to a launch.

By the 1970s, the concept of mutually assured destruction led to an American nuclear strategy which would remain relatively consistent until the end of the Cold War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_invasion_of_the_United_States#Cold_War

The only clear difference between this doctrine and my doctrine is the fact that I will most likely not respond to a nuclear attack (as my nuclear defences are numerous), but I would respond to total defeat. The biggest difference beyond that is the fact that they would use nuclear weapons, with greater effects, and more damage, but I would use biological weapons, which don't really directly cause property damage.

[Valaran]

Roski, what are you going for?

So is the IFC going with removal of Roski or something?

What do you mean?

The application was a joke application. I have said this to Valaran, I believe.

He has.

[The New Lowlands]

Mutually Assured Destruction isn't a doctrine, it's a political phenomenon which can be called into doubt.

Mutally Assured Destruction, if in any event that the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics fired multiple nuclear warheads at the United States of America, The United Kingdom, The Republic of France, and/or The Federal Republic of Germany, that the United States would retaliate with equal or more firepower. Considering the Soviets would probably send enough to wipe out North America entirely, the United States would respond with the same amount, which doesn't just mean two North Americas blow up, but could mean a massive spread of radiation worldwide.

I know what MAD is, but America' nuclear doctrine during much of the Cold War was flexible retaliation. MAD isn't a doctrine; it's a result of an (extremely unlikely) all-out nuclear attack being responded to.

[Valaran]

Look, I'm sure this discussion could take place on a military realism thread, or if you feel inclined, you could create your own.

But this isn't the place for such a debate to be held. Especially since it seems to be endless.

[The New Lowlands]

Look, I'm sure this discussion could take place on a military realism thread, or if you feel inclined, you could create your own.

But this isn't the place for such a debate to be held.

Isn't this a military alliance?

[Valaran]

Look, I'm sure this discussion could take place on a military realism thread, or if you feel inclined, you could create your own.

But this isn't the place for such a debate to be held.

Isn't this a military alliance?

Yes, but I've seen OOC thread like this one locked before because we went off topic. I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm asking you to tone it down.

[Roski]

On a more "not bitching at Roski for something that is clearly shown in real life because I want to be a cool kid" topic, I have put my constitution up.

[Guerro]

Civ RP not going anywhere Roski?

[Roski]

Civ RP not going anywhere Roski?

No, only two people applied.

If you'd like to get the civ thing advertised, I'd love you forever.

[Guerro]

Civ RP not going anywhere Roski?

No, only two people applied.

If you'd like to get the civ thing advertised, I'd love you forever.

TG me the details of such an advertisement.

[Roski]

No, only two people applied.

If you'd like to get the civ thing advertised, I'd love you forever.

TG me the details of such an advertisement.

I shall momentarily.

However, how is Senice under attack?

[Guerro]

TG me the details of such an advertisement.

I shall momentarily.

However, how is Senice under attack?

Not anymore. I had to retcon it.