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by Muzztopia » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:18 pm
by Valaran » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:22 pm
Muzztopia wrote:Bratislav wrote:
yeah pretty much....I Guess Gibberan, you agree with the HQ and RRF Base locations?
By The order of Emperor Richard IV, Foreign Minister Princess Sarah of Muzztopia and Antares Scorpi, Prince James of Muzztopia and Antares Scorpi, Defense Minister General Erik Johnson, Deputy Defense Minister Kiki Kirishima and General Yuki Kirishima the is here by Approved
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:42 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by New Carloso » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:17 pm
by Elemental North » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:41 pm
By the authority therefore invested in me by the office of Transfer-Interior Minister, I hereby certify the below vote to be accurate and true:
7 AYES
0 ABSTENTIONS
0 NAYS
TIME LEFT FOR VOTING: 1 DAY
APPROVAL GAINED FROM:
[X] Founders
[X] Transfer Council
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by Bratislav » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:09 pm
by Elemental North » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:16 pm
Bratislav wrote:Republic of Bratislav votes 'Aye' and also commends Elemental North for the nice voting results box.
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by Bratislav » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:44 pm
Secretary-Generals: Bratislav and Gibberan
Prime Minister: Elemental North
Foreign Minister: Valaran and Flardania
Defense Minister: New Carloso
Energy/Treasurer positions suspended till the elections.
by Flardania » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:59 pm
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:38 pm
by Rentalla » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:53 am
by Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:03 am
by Valaran » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:07 am
Organized States wrote:I might be over thinking this here, but would a logistical command element be something IFC has?
It would allow for us to more easily perform airlifts, move supplies/equipment, provide Ariel Refueling, etc (all of which are things I take great pride in my nation having the ability)...
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:27 am
Valaran wrote:Organized States wrote:I might be over thinking this here, but would a logistical command element be something IFC has?
It would allow for us to more easily perform airlifts, move supplies/equipment, provide Ariel Refueling, etc (all of which are things I take great pride in my nation having the ability)...
I would have thought much of this came under the control of RRF leadership (ie the defense minister) who would also have to deal with the logistics of the RRF. Of course, I am sure you can still contribute to this force in the logistical department, by donating things like C130s, fuel planes, etc (or try and become defense minister )
But for non military matters, I didn't think anyone has official authority... (so I guess yeah)
What exactly were you thinking this would be for?
by Valaran » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:31 am
Organized States wrote:Valaran wrote:
I would have thought much of this came under the control of RRF leadership (ie the defense minister) who would also have to deal with the logistics of the RRF. Of course, I am sure you can still contribute to this force in the logistical department, by donating things like C130s, fuel planes, etc (or try and become defense minister )
But for non military matters, I didn't think anyone has official authority... (so I guess yeah)
What exactly were you thinking this would be for?
I was thinking, should IFC ever have to respond to a humanitarian crisis, do we have any non-overtly military assets in the RRF (Infantry Men and Armor can't really clean up after an earthquake, or provide medical and logistical support), so I'm proposing that we have a separate Material Command, that would supply RRF, as well as have the capability to operate without RRF.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:33 am
Valaran wrote:Organized States wrote:I was thinking, should IFC ever have to respond to a humanitarian crisis, do we have any non-overtly military assets in the RRF (Infantry Men and Armor can't really clean up after an earthquake, or provide medical and logistical support), so I'm proposing that we have a separate Material Command, that would supply RRF, as well as have the capability to operate without RRF.
Back in the IFA there was some vague proposal of an aid ministry, but it never got off the ground...
I personally think it should focus on aid rather than logistics for both (better to keep the military stuff one department so that when we need it, the army can get there on its own accord).
But otherwise? Absolutuely
There should definitely be something like this in place to help member states (an on occasion, everyone else)... so I would happily propose this as the first issue for the IFC council to vote on.
by Vanitan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:38 am
Organized States wrote:Valaran wrote:
Back in the IFA there was some vague proposal of an aid ministry, but it never got off the ground...
I personally think it should focus on aid rather than logistics for both (better to keep the military stuff one department so that when we need it, the army can get there on its own accord).
But otherwise? Absolutuely
There should definitely be something like this in place to help member states (an on occasion, everyone else)... so I would happily propose this as the first issue for the IFC council to vote on.
Ok, still I'll back that proposal for the Aid Ministry...
EDIT: Who uses Probe refueling for their aircraft?
by Valaran » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:39 am
Organized States wrote:Valaran wrote:
Back in the IFA there was some vague proposal of an aid ministry, but it never got off the ground...
I personally think it should focus on aid rather than logistics for both (better to keep the military stuff one department so that when we need it, the army can get there on its own accord).
But otherwise? Absolutuely
There should definitely be something like this in place to help member states (an on occasion, everyone else)... so I would happily propose this as the first issue for the IFC council to vote on.
Ok, still I'll back that proposal for the Aid Ministry...
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:41 am
Valaran wrote:Organized States wrote:Ok, still I'll back that proposal for the Aid Ministry...
Well that idea hasn't been around for some time now (and I totally forgot about asking for one in the merger talks)
Anyways, I like your idea more, as the logistics front is something that many nations often don't address adequately. It also makes it easier for more nations to contribute aid collectively (especially smaller ones without large apparatus to do so normally)
by Vanitan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:42 am
Valaran wrote:Organized States wrote:Ok, still I'll back that proposal for the Aid Ministry...
Well that idea hasn't been around for some time now (and I totally forgot about asking for one in the merger talks)
Anyways, I like your idea more, as the logistics front is something that many nations often don't address adequately. It also makes it easier for more nations to contribute aid collectively (especially smaller ones without large apparatus to do so normally)
by Vanitan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:43 am
Organized States wrote:
The Logistics Command is probably something we'll need in the RFF (I'd be happy to take it ), and I've got a large amount of transport and tanker aircraft.
by Bratislav » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:46 am
by Valaran » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:48 am
Organized States wrote:Vanitan wrote:Me why?
Ok, I'm using the Boom, and trying to decide whether putting both systems on my KC-46s is practical (I barely use Probe).Valaran wrote:
Well that idea hasn't been around for some time now (and I totally forgot about asking for one in the merger talks)
Anyways, I like your idea more, as the logistics front is something that many nations often don't address adequately. It also makes it easier for more nations to contribute aid collectively (especially smaller ones without large apparatus to do so normally)
The Logistics Command is probably something we'll need in the RFF (I'd be happy to take it ), and I've got a large amount of transport and tanker aircraft.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Valaran » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:49 am
Bratislav wrote:Guys, we can discuss about opening such regional offices once the alliance has officially been established and started. For the purposes of starting the IFC, we just have the main HQ (in Bratislav) and the main RRF Military Base (in Gibberan). Further regional offices can be also established and will be something for us to discuss in the IFC Council.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
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