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Postby Kosovo12345 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:48 am

The New Byzantine II wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:You might want a longer history
The naval weakness cant be death
and for government, please dont just use links, write something.


It's a WIP.

And also are you a co-OP of this RP?

Sorry, i didnt see a WIP anywhere, forgive me. and yea

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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:52 am

New Granadeseret wrote:
Benuty wrote:People lets remember one thing.

The Andalusians settled Mexico so it obviously wouldn't be called Mexico :P.


If I may make some suggestions

Al-Nahulus/ Al-Aztlan (Land of the Nahus/Aztec, or some other native culture that was there depending on when they landed and where)

Name it after the guy who conquered the place.

The United States of Al-Murcia (And have it settled by people for Murcia, Andalusia)

Andalusians settled Mexico?
Well, this is gonna change my history a bit.
Was there still a Mexican revolution and whatnot?
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Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
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Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
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Postby Kosovo12345 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:54 am

Southern Babylonia wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:
If I may make some suggestions

Al-Nahulus/ Al-Aztlan (Land of the Nahus/Aztec, or some other native culture that was there depending on when they landed and where)

Name it after the guy who conquered the place.

The United States of Al-Murcia (And have it settled by people for Murcia, Andalusia)

Andalusians settled Mexico?
Well, this is gonna change my history a bit.
Was there still a Mexican revolution and whatnot?

There was a Mexican revolt in 1843. Yes, that year because thats what my history is on. Unless spain wants to change it, i will change. However, relationships are more or less okay and trading continues.

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Postby Elerian » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:07 am

I'm not on the roster. :(

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Shouldn't Scandinavia own Ingria?

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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:13 am

Kosovo12345 wrote:
Southern Babylonia wrote:Andalusians settled Mexico?
Well, this is gonna change my history a bit.
Was there still a Mexican revolution and whatnot?

There was a Mexican revolt in 1843. Yes, that year because thats what my history is on. Unless spain wants to change it, i will change. However, relationships are more or less okay and trading continues.

Fair enough, I can work around that.
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
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Postby Kosovo12345 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:20 am

Kosovo12345 wrote:I got to go, i will come back monday and edit and finish it. i just want it up
Full Nation Name : The Union of Mexico and Texas
Majority/Official Culture : Mexican [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]
Territorial Core : Mexico and Texas [[place where you have absolute control over]]
Territorial Claim : Cuba [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]
Capital City : Mexico City [[Its IRL location and name]]
Population : 550,000 (Cant find good mexican population in 1850, racist google)

Government Type : Monarchy [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]]
Government Ideology/Policies : Militant, Expansionist [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : 1st is economy, second is military, and third is spreading Islam [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]
Head of State : Emperor Carlos the I [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
Head of Government : Same [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
Government Description : The layout of the Mexican government is actually very simple. There are 3 parts, the emperor, congress, and emperor's council. The council thinks of laws and such, it goes to congress to be accepted. If congress vetoes it, it goes back to the council. If the council votes again on the bill with 66% or more, the law is passed. The whole time, the emperor can veto the bill even if 66% say yes in the council or say yes even if the 2 other government branches say no. the congress is voted by the people and the council is hand picked by the emperor, and the emperor is picked by the council unless he has a son over 18 at time of death.

Majority/State Religion : Islam [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : Since Spain was never retaken from Islamic rule, when Spain made Mexico its colony, it under a Islam banner. Now, the emperor is also leader of the Mexican Islam religion. A small Christan population in north Texas can also be found. [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : The Government owns all the big companies because as the emperor put it "We can not trust the common folk with big choices". However, there are small private companies and thus Mexico is on the line of Socialism. [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production : Mostly crops such as cotton and corn. Some factories found but not enough to be considered major.
Economic Description : The Mexican economy is tied with crops and can be called as putting all your eggs in one basket. The revolt against spain was mostly because of failed crops 2 years in a rule and what they did produce, they couldnt find anyone to sell it too. Now, the emperor tries to make more windows open but the economy is very reliant on crops. As of right now, the economy is actually booming because of new trading routes and factories being open, and the emperor ordered for more resources to be spent on making factories and goods because he knew the boom wouldn't last forever.

Army Strength : The Mexican army has 2 things going for them and that is weaponry and training. After the revolt, the Mexicans captured alot of weapons Spain left behind and had a good starting point to make a modern army. As for training, over 80% of the current army fought in some shape or form agasint the Spanish in 1843, giving them alot of experience and also taught them how big European powers fight..
Army Weakness : The Mexican army's weakness is the numbers. With only half of million population, the army is one of the smallest and so the emperor has almost every male mexican in north of the country own guns, making it more likely for them to revolt but also having an easy time to draft men in case of war.
Naval Strength : Ummm. None actually. Only thing maybe is how fierce the Mexican sailors fight and they would fight against all odds, even when they know victory is impossible.
Naval Weakness : Lets see...The navy is small. Poor training. the ships they do have are very weak and old. And most of the time, the leadership isnt that smart.
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :Become a world power, take Cuba, make the army much stronger and modern.
National Issues : Economic issues, weak (compared to Europe) military, and lack of modern factories. [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : none as of right now [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : Taking over the world [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : In 1843, after 2 years of failed crops, the Mexican people decided they had enough. Lead by their leader Carlos, the Mexicans started a guerrilla warfare vs the Islamic Spainish. The Spainish army, themselves not doing so well in Mexico due to less and less funds, only fought the Mexicans half heartily, and with many reports of native Mexicans in the army deserting with their weapons and food. Soon, the Spainish government only controlled Mexico City and a few other major cities, with most of the country side ruled by the rebels. Seeing their horrible situation, the Spainish made peace with the Mexicans and handed over Mexico, and in exchange for peace, the Mexicans promised not rage war vs the Spainish again and would also not put tariffs on trades with spain. Carlos himself was happy because his army was about to fall apart with almost no major battles in 6 months, and if the Spainish knew that, they might have never signed peace. But with Mexico being theirs, Carlos crowned himself Emperor and finally paid his men, making sure their morale was high and ao was their support for him. To keep spirits high and to take attention away from the economy, Carlos declared war on Texas, sending his second in command, Muhammad (proof of the impact Islam made on Mexico), with half of the army north. Meanwhile, with attention directed to the war, Carlos began improving the economy, sending his trusted advisers who wouldnt talk around the world to secure new trading because he feared with spain, most nations would not trade with an "inferior" nation like Mexico. General Muhammad found the hardest part of his invasion perhaps at the start, when mostly local Texans resisted him after he routed the inferior Texan army. However, he soon conviced the locals, he was just like them, a spainish speaking muslim. It helped also that the leader of Texas at the time was a christan from the north, and most of the army excluding the loyal northerns had inferior training and weapons thus allowing Muhammad to invade south Texas easily. Thus, the war in Texas was won with support from the local spainish speaking Muslims and with most of the Texan army being inferior in every way, with north Texas still more or less in a revolt state lead by Christans. During this same time, the economy showed signs of important and Carlos felt he had enough support to declare himself Emperor for life, knowing that he would get mixed feelings but with freedom and the economy going up and with Texas being part of Mexico, he survived though the hell of the first 2 weeks after declaring himself emperor. Now, in the year of 1850, Carlos declared that Mexico was a powerful regional power and would not stand for native Spainish speaking Muslims in area of "New Mexico" being conquered and also declared his support for mainland European nations to surrender their colonies, giving people their right to self rule. [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

Comparison Points – Political :2 [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2 [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Economy : 4 [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Military : 2 [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
I did the easy ones since im tried

More or less done
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Postby New Granadeseret » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:24 am

Southern Babylonia wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:There was a Mexican revolt in 1843. Yes, that year because thats what my history is on. Unless spain wants to change it, i will change. However, relationships are more or less okay and trading continues.

Fair enough, I can work around that.


That's cool. A recently colonial collapse probably makes sense, considering the difficultly of maintaining large overseas colonies with liberal ideas in this day and age. Send some missionaries up into the Pacific Amerindian lands, would you?

But New Caledonia... how exactly did you survive the tropical illness, lack of economically viable activity (The woolens brought for trade weren't exactly valuable, and the rest is jungle and mountains), and such? I'm curious as to what exactly the company did to stay relevant and get enough strength to evolve into a country, especially with no mainland support?
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:41 am

New Granadeseret wrote:
Southern Babylonia wrote:Fair enough, I can work around that.


That's cool. A recently colonial collapse probably makes sense, considering the difficultly of maintaining large overseas colonies with liberal ideas in this day and age. Send some missionaries up into the Pacific Amerindian lands, would you?

But New Caledonia... how exactly did you survive the tropical illness, lack of economically viable activity (The woolens brought for trade weren't exactly valuable, and the rest is jungle and mountains), and such? I'm curious as to what exactly the company did to stay relevant and get enough strength to evolve into a country, especially with no mainland support?

Well, a large part of my concept revolves around the colonists mixing with the native population, and receiving their aid in return for protection against, well... you. :p Besides, during the couple years of the colony's running, the population did increase, though largely through immigrants landing. But unless you have a reason that it'd be impossible in my case, I think that the main part would be that an outbreak doesn't take place on the same scale, as it was with Spanish and Portuguese colonies founded in the area. The separation was largely a political move at first, by which point the colony was more or less self-sufficient if not prosperous. But yeah, I may want to play around with the demographics a wee bit more - after all, it's still a WIP.
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
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Postby New Granadeseret » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:53 am

Southern Babylonia wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:
That's cool. A recently colonial collapse probably makes sense, considering the difficultly of maintaining large overseas colonies with liberal ideas in this day and age. Send some missionaries up into the Pacific Amerindian lands, would you?

But New Caledonia... how exactly did you survive the tropical illness, lack of economically viable activity (The woolens brought for trade weren't exactly valuable, and the rest is jungle and mountains), and such? I'm curious as to what exactly the company did to stay relevant and get enough strength to evolve into a country, especially with no mainland support?

Well, a large part of my concept revolves around the colonists mixing with the native population, and receiving their aid in return for protection against, well... you. :p Besides, during the couple years of the colony's running, the population did increase, though largely through immigrants landing. But unless you have a reason that it'd be impossible in my case, I think that the main part would be that an outbreak doesn't take place on the same scale, as it was with Spanish and Portuguese colonies founded in the area. The separation was largely a political move at first, by which point the colony was more or less self-sufficient if not prosperous. But yeah, I may want to play around with the demographics a wee bit more - after all, it's still a WIP.


Hold off against somebody with strong mainland power who has you boxed in with the (fairly minimal) population of the peninsula and having them boxed in? I'd say that should at least require firing your Guidance if they were anything close to a thriving country. It's not like the natives really have the technology, numbers, or organization to stop a concentrated attack.

Also, 31 MILLION people? That's HUGE. Where did they all come from?
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:16 am

New Granadeseret wrote:
Southern Babylonia wrote:Well, a large part of my concept revolves around the colonists mixing with the native population, and receiving their aid in return for protection against, well... you. :p Besides, during the couple years of the colony's running, the population did increase, though largely through immigrants landing. But unless you have a reason that it'd be impossible in my case, I think that the main part would be that an outbreak doesn't take place on the same scale, as it was with Spanish and Portuguese colonies founded in the area. The separation was largely a political move at first, by which point the colony was more or less self-sufficient if not prosperous. But yeah, I may want to play around with the demographics a wee bit more - after all, it's still a WIP.


Hold off against somebody with strong mainland power who has you boxed in with the (fairly minimal) population of the peninsula and having them boxed in? I'd say that should at least require firing your Guidance if they were anything close to a thriving country. It's not like the natives really have the technology, numbers, or organization to stop a concentrated attack.

Also, 31 MILLION people? That's HUGE. Where did they all come from?


Firing my Guidance? Not quite sure what you're talking about. Also, it's up to you, I suppose, whether or not your nation launched a "concentrated attack".

And as to the population, yeah, it's not a very well-researched number, but I can't complete this app until a week and a bit from now anyway. In the meantime, that's what I jotted down, partly to see whether people thought it was far too much, too little, etc. But regardless, many early immigrants of mine are political refugees from Scotland, immediately following the Act of Union and later during the Clearances. I'm also taking in emigrants from Ireland due to the potato famine. Still, if it's too outlandish I have no problem with nerfing it.
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Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
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Postby Lenyo » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:39 am

Full Nation Name : Second French Republic
Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France, Corsica, Martinique, Guadeloupe
Territorial Claim : Brittany, Algeria, Guiana, Senegal, Vietnam, (and New Zealand because Polynesia was a no)
Capital City : Paris
Population : 40 million

Government Type : A Social and Democratic Republic with a constitution that rules in the interests of the French industrial working class and peasantry
Government Ideology/Policies : Gradualist socialism
Government Focus : Industrialization in the nation's primary goal, followed by martial strength.
Head of State : The monarchy was repeatedly abolished in 1793, 1830, and 1848.
Head of Government : President Maximilian Travilliste
Government Description :
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Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholic Church
Religious Description : The Roman Catholic Church is the majority religion, but there is a campaign to guarantee some liberties to religious minorities. (Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists)

Economic Ideologies : Market socialism
Major Production : The nation's wines, luxury clothing, and expensive furniture is purchased by the elite throughout the world. France also exports machine tools, medicines, and cosmetics. Exports of machinery are prioritized for the nation's allies.
Economic Description : France is in the throws of industrialization. Finance, textiles, mining, metallurgy, glasswork, and wine are all major industries. The nation still depends upon extracting resources from its colonies, but slavery was finally abolished in 1848. Indicative economic planning is regularly used by the state to rationalize economic development. Economic planners follow a dirigiste ideology, where the state does not merely regulate market activity. Some of the commanding heights of heavy industry are state-owned enterprises, including the postal service, grocery stores, railroads, telegraph wires, ports, electricity, finance, shipbuilding, and arms manufacturing.

Army Strength : Elan is the French military's greatest strength. Intensive psychological training guarantees a true esprit de corps, uniting volunteers soldiers from all the nation's possessions into arguably the greatest fighting force in the world, the Foreign Legion. Men sign up for the Foreign Legion form all corners of the world, despite racism in French society.
Army Weakness : French artillery is inferior to its foreign counterparts. The nation is experimenting with imported artillery in order to modernize all facets of warfare. Prussian cannon and English shipbuilding especially interest military planning.
Naval Strength : The navy is currently modernizing its armaments. A series of reforms have been issued from shipbuilding all the way down to food rations.
Naval Weakness : France imports naval technology from England and Germany... for now.
Further Military Description :
Roughly 500,000 soldiers at full mobilization
Line Infantry - 320 battalions
Light Infantry - 30 battalions of chasseurs
Heavy Cavalry - 20 cuirassier regiments
Line Cavalry - 16 dragoon and 8 lancer regiments
Light Cavalry - 16 chasseur and 8 hussar regiments. Spahis regiments.
Artillery - 16 field and 4 horse regiments
8 Man-of-Wars, 4 Ironclad, 15 Sloop-of-Wars, 20 Ship-of-Line, 50 brigs, 200 patrol boats

National Goals : Completing industrialization, development of the colonies, building market socialism, and regaining Brittany
National Issues : Despite the nation's new socialist rhetoric, severe poverty and inequality persist, especially in the exploited colonies. Finally addressing poverty is crucial to preventing another revolt.

History : In 1789 the French Revolution abolished feudalism, dramatically ushering in a new capitalist age in Europe. In the early nineteenth century Napoleon Bonaparte expanded the reforms throughout much of Europe before being defeated by a massive coalition of monarchies. In 1815 the Bourbon Monarchy was restored until 1830, when a botched anti-monarchist revolution installed the House of Orleans. The Revolutionary Wave that swept Europe in 1848 toppled the French Crown in February, which was replaced by the Second Republic. [Alt-history begins now.] Because the monarchy's forces were bogged down in Algeria, the 1848 June Days Uprising succeeded, steered French politics towards the left. Labor unions were legalized, and policies have begun to address the issues of the poor and unemployed. The government has a gradualist ideology; it aims to avoid another revolution.

Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 5
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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Postby Of the Quendi » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:52 am

So is my application accepted or not?
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Postby The Union of Courland » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:17 pm

Lenyo wrote:
Full Nation Name : Second French Republic
Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France, Corsica, Martinique, Guadeloupe
Territorial Claim : Brittany, Algeria, Guiana, Senegal, Vietnam, (and New Zealand because Polynesia was a no)
Capital City : Paris
Population : 40 million

Government Type : A Social and Democratic Republic with a constitution that rules in the interests of the French industrial working class and peasantry
Government Ideology/Policies : Gradualist socialism
Government Focus : Industrialization in the nation's primary goal, followed by martial strength.
Head of State : The monarchy was repeatedly abolished in 1793, 1830, and 1848.
Head of Government : President Maximilian Travilliste
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholic Church
Religious Description : The Roman Catholic Church is the majority religion, but there is a campaign to guarantee some liberties to religious minorities. (Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists)

Economic Ideologies : Market socialism
Major Production : The nation's wines, luxury clothing, and expensive furniture is purchased by the elite throughout the world. France also exports machine tools, medicines, and cosmetics. Exports of machinery are prioritized for the nation's allies.
Economic Description : France is in the throws of industrialization. Finance, textiles, mining, metallurgy, glasswork, and wine are all major industries. The nation still depends upon extracting resources from its colonies, but slavery was finally abolished in 1848. Indicative economic planning is regularly used by the state to rationalize economic development. Economic planners follow a dirigiste ideology, where the state does not merely regulate market activity. Some of the commanding heights of heavy industry are state-owned enterprises, including the postal service, grocery stores, railroads, telegraph wires, ports, electricity, finance, shipbuilding, and arms manufacturing.

Army Strength : Elan is the French military's greatest strength. Intensive psychological training guarantees a true esprit de corps, uniting volunteers soldiers from all the nation's possessions into arguably the greatest fighting force in the world, the Foreign Legion. Men sign up for the Foreign Legion form all corners of the world, despite racism in French society.
Army Weakness : French artillery is inferior to its foreign counterparts. The nation is experimenting with imported artillery in order to modernize all facets of warfare. Prussian cannon and English shipbuilding especially interest military planning.
Naval Strength : The navy is currently modernizing its armaments. A series of reforms have been issued from shipbuilding all the way down to food rations.
Naval Weakness : France imports naval technology from England and Germany... for now.
Further Military Description :
Roughly 500,000 soldiers at full mobilization
Line Infantry - 320 battalions
Light Infantry - 30 battalions of chasseurs
Heavy Cavalry - 20 cuirassier regiments
Line Cavalry - 16 dragoon and 8 lancer regiments
Light Cavalry - 16 chasseur and 8 hussar regiments. Spahis regiments.
Artillery - 16 field and 4 horse regiments
8 Man-of-Wars, 4 Ironclad, 15 Sloop-of-Wars, 20 Ship-of-Line, 50 brigs, 200 patrol boats

National Goals : Completing industrialization, development of the colonies, building market socialism, and regaining Brittany
National Issues : Despite the nation's new socialist rhetoric, severe poverty and inequality persist, especially in the exploited colonies. Finally addressing poverty is crucial to preventing another revolt.

History : In 1789 the French Revolution abolished feudalism, dramatically ushering in a new capitalist age in Europe. In the early nineteenth century Napoleon Bonaparte expanded the reforms throughout much of Europe before being defeated by a massive coalition of monarchies. In 1815 the Bourbon Monarchy was restored until 1830, when a botched anti-monarchist revolution installed the House of Orleans. The Revolutionary Wave that swept Europe in 1848 toppled the French Crown in February, which was replaced by the Second Republic. [Alt-history begins now.] Because the monarchy's forces were bogged down in Algeria, the 1848 June Days Uprising succeeded, steered French politics towards the left. Labor unions were legalized, and policies have begun to address the issues of the poor and unemployed. The government has a gradualist ideology; it aims to avoid another revolution.

Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 5
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

*sees Brittany under claims*
Whelp, time to ally with the Brits.
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As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
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For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
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Postby Suekiva » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:19 pm

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Postby Benuty » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:27 pm

The Union of Courland wrote:
Lenyo wrote:
Full Nation Name : Second French Republic
Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France, Corsica, Martinique, Guadeloupe
Territorial Claim : Brittany, Algeria, Guiana, Senegal, Vietnam, (and New Zealand because Polynesia was a no)
Capital City : Paris
Population : 40 million

Government Type : A Social and Democratic Republic with a constitution that rules in the interests of the French industrial working class and peasantry
Government Ideology/Policies : Gradualist socialism
Government Focus : Industrialization in the nation's primary goal, followed by martial strength.
Head of State : The monarchy was repeatedly abolished in 1793, 1830, and 1848.
Head of Government : President Maximilian Travilliste
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholic Church
Religious Description : The Roman Catholic Church is the majority religion, but there is a campaign to guarantee some liberties to religious minorities. (Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists)

Economic Ideologies : Market socialism
Major Production : The nation's wines, luxury clothing, and expensive furniture is purchased by the elite throughout the world. France also exports machine tools, medicines, and cosmetics. Exports of machinery are prioritized for the nation's allies.
Economic Description : France is in the throws of industrialization. Finance, textiles, mining, metallurgy, glasswork, and wine are all major industries. The nation still depends upon extracting resources from its colonies, but slavery was finally abolished in 1848. Indicative economic planning is regularly used by the state to rationalize economic development. Economic planners follow a dirigiste ideology, where the state does not merely regulate market activity. Some of the commanding heights of heavy industry are state-owned enterprises, including the postal service, grocery stores, railroads, telegraph wires, ports, electricity, finance, shipbuilding, and arms manufacturing.

Army Strength : Elan is the French military's greatest strength. Intensive psychological training guarantees a true esprit de corps, uniting volunteers soldiers from all the nation's possessions into arguably the greatest fighting force in the world, the Foreign Legion. Men sign up for the Foreign Legion form all corners of the world, despite racism in French society.
Army Weakness : French artillery is inferior to its foreign counterparts. The nation is experimenting with imported artillery in order to modernize all facets of warfare. Prussian cannon and English shipbuilding especially interest military planning.
Naval Strength : The navy is currently modernizing its armaments. A series of reforms have been issued from shipbuilding all the way down to food rations.
Naval Weakness : France imports naval technology from England and Germany... for now.
Further Military Description :
Roughly 500,000 soldiers at full mobilization
Line Infantry - 320 battalions
Light Infantry - 30 battalions of chasseurs
Heavy Cavalry - 20 cuirassier regiments
Line Cavalry - 16 dragoon and 8 lancer regiments
Light Cavalry - 16 chasseur and 8 hussar regiments. Spahis regiments.
Artillery - 16 field and 4 horse regiments
8 Man-of-Wars, 4 Ironclad, 15 Sloop-of-Wars, 20 Ship-of-Line, 50 brigs, 200 patrol boats

National Goals : Completing industrialization, development of the colonies, building market socialism, and regaining Brittany
National Issues : Despite the nation's new socialist rhetoric, severe poverty and inequality persist, especially in the exploited colonies. Finally addressing poverty is crucial to preventing another revolt.

History : In 1789 the French Revolution abolished feudalism, dramatically ushering in a new capitalist age in Europe. In the early nineteenth century Napoleon Bonaparte expanded the reforms throughout much of Europe before being defeated by a massive coalition of monarchies. In 1815 the Bourbon Monarchy was restored until 1830, when a botched anti-monarchist revolution installed the House of Orleans. The Revolutionary Wave that swept Europe in 1848 toppled the French Crown in February, which was replaced by the Second Republic. [Alt-history begins now.] Because the monarchy's forces were bogged down in Algeria, the 1848 June Days Uprising succeeded, steered French politics towards the left. Labor unions were legalized, and policies have begun to address the issues of the poor and unemployed. The government has a gradualist ideology; it aims to avoid another revolution.

Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 5
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

*sees Brittany under claims*
Whelp, time to ally with the Brits.

Well you could ally with those in Germany :P.
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Postby Lenyo » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:29 pm

Honestly, since Germany looks so aggressive this game and France already has colonies to build up, France won't act on that claim. It'd be too much work. Now, if you ever need someone to care for a few of your provinces, you know who to call.
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Postby Western Imperial Union » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:41 pm

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Full Nation Name :Confederation of California
Majority/Official Culture : Somewhat european but mostly Native culturally
Territorial Core : California, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah,(not all of Wyoming and Colorado ),
Territorial claim:Baja California, Montana, Colorado, British Columbia
Capital City : [where Sacramento is] Sierra
Population :21 million severely centered along the coast with very widespread population centers in the rest of the country

Government Type : Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Freedom of the individual, adopt new ideas to survive
Government Focus : Currently the economy is the main focus however the military is a close second
Head of State : Speaker Shikoba Wayra (sheyekoba weyra)
Head of Government : Chancellor Ujurak Isi (oohoorak eesee)
Government Description : Confederation of eight regions named for the dominant tribe.
Democratic

Majority/State Religion : majority is an animal pantheon with severl types of polytheistic religions present
Religious Description : animals are believed to gods and their children. Thus when an animal is eaten it is a religious meal.

Economic Ideologies : While there is business protection in place there is mostly capitalism in the majority of the confederation. However there is a commune in every district, so the poor can move there work for a while and be fed before moving out of it to rejoin the majority.
Major Production :
Silver, Gold, Food, Coal, Lumber, textiles
Economic Description :While not industrializing till 1818 the confederation's economy is booming plentiful arable land and even more resources allow for a diversified economy. While mostly it still relies on agriculture and resource collection it is beginning to produce manufactured goods.

Army Strength : Extremely well versed in irregular tactics and small unit warfare they are easily some of the most elite soldiers in the world
Army Weakness :extremely small numbers and somewhat outdated weapons
Naval Strength :fast ships with very decent boarding capabilities
Naval Weakness :few ships and poor durability
Further Military Description : organization:
There are currently five armies in the Confederation
1st Army: Chumash Army=15,000
1st Brigade=3,000
2nd Brigade=3,000
3rd Brigade=3,000
4th Brigade=3,000
5th Brigade= 3,000
Each brigade has 3 regiments of 1,000 men

Each regiment has four Companies of 100 men
Each company has four Platoons with 25 men each
Each platoon has two sections of twenty and an artillery team of five
Each section has two squads of five which is divided into warband 1 and 1-2 number 1 having two men and a Warband leader and 1-2 having two men.
The armies are as follows 1st Army Chumash, 2nd Army Chinook, 3rd Army Navajo, 4th Army Shoshone, 5th Army Crow,

With a significant preference toward longer ranged weapons the confederate soldiers never fight in lines. They launch attacks, retreat ambush and counterattack, they launch surprise raids before the enemy can take the field to meet them.

National Goals :Unite plains Nations under the Confederation, Bring Canadian Tribes into the nation, Aide the Apache in Unification and bring annex texas as Apache district
National Issues : lesser tribes need to be better assimilated
National Figures of Interest : Chumash Chief Kawakatuse (unified the Chinook, Chumash, Navajo to form the original confederation.
National Ambition: Unify all tribes of the americas.

History :

In the early 1600's visits from european colonists exploring the western coast of North America led to interaction and a relative culture shock of the area. Starting with the Chumash tribe wars and ideology spread like wildfire. By 1670 all of southern California and parts of the Mojave Desert were under Chumash control. Around that same time the Chinook after brief wars with neighboring tribes had secured the majority of the Northeast coast.

In 1685 The Chumash had been assimilating entire tribes rather than just prisoners of war for over 35 years. They had begun to alter the general ideology of native americans in the area. War had become about land and prestige.

When Navajo and Chumash began coming in contact the two discovered one another to be equal matches. They traded with one another and built on each other's success. In the North the Chinook had expanded to control much of the Northwest assimilating all the tribes they conquered and were steadily expanding.

It took another forty years but the five tribes of the confederation had expanded and assimilated until they all bordered each other by 1725.

Chief Kawakatuse was born to the Chumash people in what became Sierra. He began more extensive inter tribe dealings and by his thirtieth birthday had diplomatically convinced the Navajo and Chinook to join the Chumash in a confederation.

The three became catapulted to power over the other parts of Western North America. Soon however Shoshone and Crow alliance became a bitter enemy. In 1763 with the death of Kawakatuse the next Leader was elected ordered an invasion of Shoshone lands. The war lasted until 1769 when the Crow and Shoshone were finally defeated in the battle of the snake river.

Under the confederation the five tribes gradually worked through their differences and by 1800 the tribes had become a very stable nation. In 1810 an Apache chief under confederate protection approached the government of California in hopes to get their help in the Apache want for independence from foreign control.

While unable to fight alongside their Apache brothers the Confederation has been supplying arms and publicly calling for the Apache territory independence. However the issue is growing quite quickly, and war is a growing possibility.

Comparison Points – Political :2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious :2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :10 /10


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Err... btw, You didn't reserve Montana and... other states. The problem is that because of this, I already approved reserve of Louisiana area. If you can confirm your claims and make necessary changes... it would be awesome~!!


Fixed :)

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Full Nation Name : Republique de la Louisianne
Majority/Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and parts of Nebraska and Iowa (I know that's not what it's called ITTL, but I'm calling that for convenience's sake.
Territorial Claim : The remaining territories not specified in the Territorial Core. Mostly Northern and western parts of Louisiana.
Capital City : Nouvelle-Orléans (New Orleans)
Population : ~2.5 million (it's a bit higher, but I can mostly justify it in my history)

Government Type : Federal presidential constitutional republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Continue developing and settling territories, as well as growing and expanding its economy.
Government Focus : Survive as a nation, continue growing its population in order to settle and consolidate its holdings over its territories, expand its economy, establish/improve relations with other American and maybe some European nations
Head of State : President Gaultier Beaulieu
Head of Government : President Gaultier Beaulieu
Government Description : The President is the man who has the most political authority over internal and foreign affairs of Louisianne, like the present-day US, although they are elected to 5-year terms. The National Assembly is the primary law-making body of the country. However, while the country claims to espouse freedoms and democratic ideals, politics in the country is corrupt and dominated by two factions - Liberals and Conservatives, and power in the country is usually switched around between elections. Many politicians are not afraid of using means such as election rigging, bribes, etc. to get themselves in power, and the population, in many cases, is not fairly represented in the government thanks to both groups (Liberals and Conservatives) becoming increasingly dominated by a small political elite.

Majority/State Religion : Catholic is currently the majority religion in Lousianne; however, the country has a very large Protestant minority. The country's official stance on religion is conflicted, as Conservatives favor religion while Liberals favor secularism.
Religious Description : N/A

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism
Major Production : Cotton, sugarcane, and other foodstuffs and agricultural products
Economic Description : The current economy of Louisianne is mainly dependent of agricultural, especially cotton and sugarcane, although there have been attempts to shift its focus away from agricultural. However, the country has become increasingly wracked by debts by borrowing money from French and British moneylenders in order to develop the country, which may be a huge problem for the nation later if nothing is done to lower debts.

Army Strength : The current army stands at 35,000 men; however, in the event of an invasion, thousands of more soldiers may be conscripted.
Army Weakness : A reliance on imported firearms, relative inexperience of officers and soldiers, small manpower base in comparison with other more populated countries, lack of substantial numbers of artillery and cavalry
Naval Strength : The Navy of Louisiana is largely limited to the rivers and surrounding coastal waters, and is unable to operate on the oceans. It currently consists of 2,000 naval personnel.
Naval Weakness : Very small, very limited in its operations, inexperience of naval officers and crews
Further Military Description : N/A

National Goals :
-Continue growing its population and settle and develop sparsely populated territories
-Attempt to lower debts and combat corruption and the increased dominance of Liberals and Conservatives by a small political elite
-Industrialize
National Issues :
-Its debts and reliance on other nations in terms of trade and finances
-Corruption in the government, as well as the fact that the population is not fairly represented, with voters being limited to mostly white male property owners
-Its weak hold over Louisiana's northern territories, many of them which are prone to territorial disputes as well as encroachment by settlers from neighboring nations
National Figures of Interest :
Louis I Blanchot - The grandchild of Charles Blanchot, the first Emperor of Louisiana before he was forced into exile by a Liberal coup, is currently spending his days in Frankfurt, having been banned from Louisiana. Is a bit of an adventurer, having climbed in the Alps and even once surviving within the Austrian Empire. Should the monarchy somehow be returned, he would be the man who is installed as Emperor.

Edouard Francios - One of the leading members of the Liberal Party, rather wealthy and extremely vocal in the government. Has support from the political elite, and is expected to run for President in the 1851 election.

Pierre Ebert - One of Louisiana's former Presidents, he served 4 terms (or 20 years) in the office and is responsible for defining many of Louisiana's policies. He is aging; however, he does serve an advisory role to the current President and is popular among most Liberals and moderate Conservatives.

National Ambition/Aspirations : Become a respectable military and economic power with near complete or complete control and grip over all their territories, as well as try to significantly lower the nation's crippling debts and combat corruption in the government and move towards being a real democracy.

History :
Based off of this timeline

1717: The French found Nouvelle-Orleans; several forts are established along the Mississippi River and due to the alarming Al-Andalusian colonial presence in Texas and Mexico (obviously not what they are called, but I'm just calling them that for the sake of convenience), the residents of Louisiana are made exempt from all taxes and a constant military presence is maintained in the French colony.
1721: Fort Saint-Chartres is established in present-day Illinois; the French began exploring the river and its tributaries. The settlement at Cahokie is expanded.
1723: The Regent of France announces a decree that anybody willing to serve 5 years of military service in Louisiana will be granted 80 arpents of land (64-66 acres) and 40-arpent grants (~30 acres) will be given to settlers who come to the colony. This results in a significant influx of settlers to the colony. The first slavs begin to arrive in the colony.
1724 - 1729: Outposts are found along the Mississippi River, France continues exploring the river and its many tributaries.
1730: Small towns have begun to spring up around the forts bordering the River. The population of Nouvelle Orleans numbers 3,000, with the entire colony numbering 12,000.
1731: A battle between the Natchez Indians and French take place, the Indians win. French missionaries began to flock to the colony, and their missions become centers of trade in the colony. Intermarriage begins to take place between Indian converts and French settlers.
1732: France establishes Fort Vincennes on the Oubashe (Wabash) River, and finds Fort Crevecoeur.
1735: Town of Cansez (Kansas City) is founded. The population of Louisiana now numbers a little over 27,000, with around 6,000 located in Nouvelle Orleans.
1737 - 1740: Multiple forts are founded and re-established (after having been abandoned). In the areas north of Prudhomme (Memphis), grain farming becomes the mainstay there, and slavery there is rare. In the south however, there is a few thousand slaves, most of them working on sugar and cotton plantations.
1741 - 1752: Seeing the colony as less profitable than the Caribbean sugar islands, investment and settlement in the colony decreases, although thousands still choose to settle there, lured by promises of rich, vast farmland. In addition, the French government begins to appoint less competent and effective administrators to run the colony.
1753: Town of Chicagou (Chicago) is founded by French Canadians.
1760: The number of settlers in Louisiana now numbers roughly 100,000. France continues to neglect the colony, and the forts are usually manned by second and third rate troops from Europe, and the commanders are usually incompetent.
1758 - 1765: The 7 Years War occurs, resulting in a French defeat. Louisiana is given to the Protestant British, which is considered a preferable alternative to Muslim Al-Andalusian rule.
1766 - 1773: A new Governor, George Russell, is placed in control of Louisiana, and attempts to suppress Catholic influence, banning worship, banning Catholics from holding any office and imposes the Anglican Church on the nation. A plan is drawn up to deport the French in the region, but is seen as too impractical and is scrapped. However, deportations on a smaller scale happen, and the effects of it is seen today, where most areas have a small but noticeable Anglophone minority.
1774: Horrified by Russell's actions in the colony and the poor conditions of his deportations, Russell is called back home and replaced by a new governor, who is much more lenient on the French and tries to repair the damage done in Louisiana. However, despite this, the damage has already been done, and the vast majority of the population is discontent with British rule.
1775: With the British in recent years raising taxes to try to pay for the debts incurred from the 7 Years War, the French, who had experienced very low taxes under French rule, protest, and mass tax evasion takes place. The British attempt to crack down on this, which only adds to their unpopularity. Rioting occurs in major cities like New Orleans and Saint Louis. The Louisiana Revolution begins.
1776 - 1784: The Revolution, backed by British enemies and Revolution-sympathizers, succeeds and results in the Treaty of Paris. Britain is forced to recognize Louisianan independence.
1785: The Republic of Louisiana, while now independent, gets off to a shaky start. Jean-Jacques O'Connell, a descendant of Irish immigrants that flooded Louisiana in the 1700s (and one of the main leaders of the Revolution) as a result of anti-Catholic Penal Laws there, is elected the first President of the Republic and immediately gets to trying to draft a Constitution. However, conflict begins between the upper and lower parts of Louisiana, and the lower parts begin to demand equal representation in the Assembly and in making the Constitution. Charles Blanchot (another leader of the Revolution) is the most vocal out of those protesting for Lower Louisiana.
1786: Protests in New Orleans demand the resignation of O'Connell. With his army mostly having been disbanded and former soldiers returning to their homes and farms, O'Connell has nothing to threaten them with and is killed after he refuses to resign. The remnants of the National Assembly as well as O'Connell's supporters, horrified, escapes and declares the "Free Government of Louisiana" based in St. Louis.
1787 - 1788: Blanchot quickly raises a standing army in order to combat this government. By 1788, he leads an army of several thousand against St. Louis, inflicting several defeats on the Free Government militias and besieging St. Louis. After only a month of siege, the city capitulated.
1789: Blanchot, while St. Louis and most other cities have submitted to his rule, spends most of this year attempting to subjugate the remnants of the Free Government, who fled northwards following their defeat at St. Louis.
1790: With the last of O'Connel's supporters and the Free Government crushed, Blanchot returns to the capital city in triumph. His first goal is to seek recognition and support from other nations as the legitimate government of Louisiana, and also sets about making a new Constitution.
1791 - 1803: Blanchot mostly focuses on building up his military, supposedly at first to defend against British, Al-Andalusian, and American attacks, but in reality an attempt to cement his own rule in the country. While popular amongst land and plantation owners in the South, resentment of him continues to build up, and Blanchot becomes more absorbed in his rule, and while his rule claimed to be a true democracy, most times it resembled that of a European manner rather than a democratic President.
1804: Following Napoleon's coronation as the Emperor of the French, Blanchot, admiring Napoleon, decides to force the National Assembly to crown him as "Emperor of Louisiana and Conqueror of the British Empire."
1805: Blanchot founds the University of New Orleans and the Imperial Military Academy of New Orleans. However, both prove to the starting points for Blanchot's downfall, as illegal literature is smuggled in and a movement is formed, called Les Liberales. Hearing of this, Blanchot, in an attempt to crush political dissidence, tries to crack down on it, giving extra power and authority to the secret police and allowing him to imprison suspected Liberals without trial. However, this only factors into his sharp rise in unpopularity, and opposition to his rule grows.
1805 - 1811: The movement begins to infiltrate the military, and with widespread opposition to Blanchot beginning to take place, military officers stage a coup against Blanchot, driving him into exile. They reinstall the National Assembly, which was dissolved by Blanchot in 1805 and create a new constitution, which is anti-clerical and only results in opposition to it by devout Catholics, many Conservatives, and Royalists.
This results in opposition to the Liberals, and a movement called Les Conservateures begins to take place.
1811 - 1815: The country mostly focuses on internally stabilizing itself during this time period, while wars rage on in Europe. The downfall of Napoleon in 1815 has no direct effect on Louisiana, although the few remaining Royalists, especially former Blanchot supporters, mourn with his final defeat.
1816: Pierre Ebert, a Liberal, is elected to office, winning with the promise of removing anti-clerical provisions and articles from the Constitution, which wins over many moderate Conservatives although he alienates radical and some moderate Liberals. He is the man who will define most of present-day Louisiana's policies.
1817 - 1836: Ebert remains in office for 20 years, often utilizing less-than-legal means to keep him in office and to placate political opponents. Thanks to immigration and high rates of population growth, by 1836 the population of Louisiana is now over a million. In addition, during his administration, steam paddle boats become a common sight on the Mississippi, and large-scale investment from other nations and the government is responsible for helping to develop Louisiana.
1837 - 1844: With Ebert retiring from politics in 1836, he is replaced by a moderate Conservative President, who mostly more or less follows Ebert's policies.
1845: Great Famine in Ireland. The Catholic Irish flock in droves to the mostly Catholic Louisiana, and up to 50,000 Irish a year emigrate to Louisiana.
1846 - 1850: By now, Louisiana has begun to incur debts from borrowing from French and British moneylenders in order to develop the country and its infrastructure, and has also experienced a whole host of problems, ranging from the small political elite, corruption, and the unfair representation of the population in the government. 1850 is the present-year where the RP will start.


Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10
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Postby Cuprum » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:17 pm

Oscalantine wrote:
Cuprum wrote:
Full Nation Name: Republiek Argentinië
Majority/Official Culture: Argentijns, subgroup of the Dutch Culture
Territorial Core: Argentina, Uruguay.
Territorial Claim: Brazil
Capital City: City of Goede Lucht, Federal Territory
Population : Around 1,500,000 Hab

Government Type : Constitutional Republic
Government Ideology/Policies: Colonial
Government Focus : Continue to build up economy, get/expand colonies. Avoid red numbers.
Head of State : President Juist Jozef van Urquiza
Head of Government : President Juist Jozef van Urquiza
Government Description : A federal republic located in southeastern South America.

Majority/State Religion : Protestant
Religious Description : Same as RL

Economic Ideologies : Capitalist Free Market Economy
Major Production : Food, rare materials, wood, iron.
Economic Description : Benefiting from rich natural resources, a highly literate population, a diversified industrial base, and an export-oriented agricultural sector.

Army Strength : 15,000 strong, the Army sought to become a professional force without active involvement in politics, even though many a political figure -President Jozef van heilige Maarten, for example- benefitted from a past military career. The Army prevented the fall of the government in a number of Radical-led uprisings. Meanwhile, the military in general and the Army in particular contributed to develop Argentina's unsettled southern frontier and its nascent industrial complex.

Army Weakness : Lack of manpower.
Naval Strength : 7,000 people, consists of 5 steam battleships and 2 ironclads from the Netherlands and England. Heavily funded.
Naval Weakness : The small number of ships

National Goals: Expand market relationships and colonies
National Issues: The fragility of the economy and the national borders.
National Figures of Interest: Juist Jozef van Urquiza, Nicolaas van Avellaneda, Johannes de Doper van Alberdi, Dominus Faust van Sarmiento, Bartholomeus van Mitre, Julius A. Roca.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Economical Independence, Social Justice.

History:

* 1498: The arrival of Dutch explorer Michiel de Ruyter at Argentina opened a gateway of free access to Asia from Western Europe around the strait of Magallanes; however, it also necessitated the founding and safeguarding of trade stations in the West.

* 1499: The Dutch landed in Goede Lucht (Buenos Aires), explored the Pampas two years later, and by 1502 had started raiding inland. Shortly afterwards the Dutch Republic sent merchant vessels to the Continent.

* 1510: the Vereenigde West-Indische Compagnie (Dutch West India Company; VWC in founded the Vereenigde West-Indische Compagnie (Dutch West India Company; VWC).

* 1568–1648: During the 80 years war, the Colony gained full autonomy and acquired Colonia Sacramento (Uruguay) from the Austrian-Spanish decadent empire, this concession was ratified after the Peace of Utrecht.

* 1667: After the Second Anglo-Dutch War, the Dutch Empire exchanged the Dutch Brazil provinces for the Malouines Islands (Falklands, Malvinas islands) in the South near the end of the world.

* 1784: Taking advantage of the Dutch weakness after the Defeat in the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War, the Verenigde Provincies van het Zuiden (United Provinces of the South) declared independence.

* 1806 - 1807: The British invasions of the River Plaat were repelled.

* 1835: the desert was conquered and the natives were forced to serfdom by the Argentijns landowners.

Comparison Points – Political: 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10


If I had anything to say about it... I would have liked the history to be in chronological format by year, since you don't seem to have explained in a narrative but chose to list the major events in order. Apart from that minor tidbit, I see no reason to not approve this... unless someone has beef to say about population, which is an easy fix ^^

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:30 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Union of Courland wrote:*sees Brittany under claims*
Whelp, time to ally with the Brits.

Well you could ally with those in Germany :P.


Yes the Hansa Federation is probably a little anti french after the napoleon wars, even though they used the Napoleon wars to officially form the Hansa Federation in the first place.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:32 pm

Lenyo wrote:Honestly, since Germany looks so aggressive this game and France already has colonies to build up, France won't act on that claim. It'd be too much work. Now, if you ever need someone to care for a few of your provinces, you know who to call.


I wouldn't say aggressive more Well prepared for defense. There reallyis little other than perhaps a bit on the east coast of africa and maybe switzerland Hansa wants to expand to.
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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:59 pm

Lenyo wrote:
Full Nation Name : Second French Republic
Official Culture : French
Territorial Core : Mainland France, Corsica, Martinique, Guadeloupe
Territorial Claim : Brittany, Algeria, Guiana, Senegal, Vietnam, (and New Zealand because Polynesia was a no)
Capital City : Paris
Population : 40 million

Government Type : A Social and Democratic Republic with a constitution that rules in the interests of the French industrial working class and peasantry
Government Ideology/Policies : Gradualist socialism
Government Focus : Industrialization in the nation's primary goal, followed by martial strength.
Head of State : The monarchy was repeatedly abolished in 1793, 1830, and 1848.
Head of Government : President Maximilian Travilliste
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : Roman Catholic Church
Religious Description : The Roman Catholic Church is the majority religion, but there is a campaign to guarantee some liberties to religious minorities. (Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists)

Economic Ideologies : Market socialism
Major Production : The nation's wines, luxury clothing, and expensive furniture is purchased by the elite throughout the world. France also exports machine tools, medicines, and cosmetics. Exports of machinery are prioritized for the nation's allies.
Economic Description : France is in the throws of industrialization. Finance, textiles, mining, metallurgy, glasswork, and wine are all major industries. The nation still depends upon extracting resources from its colonies, but slavery was finally abolished in 1848. Indicative economic planning is regularly used by the state to rationalize economic development. Economic planners follow a dirigiste ideology, where the state does not merely regulate market activity. Some of the commanding heights of heavy industry are state-owned enterprises, including the postal service, grocery stores, railroads, telegraph wires, ports, electricity, finance, shipbuilding, and arms manufacturing.

Army Strength : Elan is the French military's greatest strength. Intensive psychological training guarantees a true esprit de corps, uniting volunteers soldiers from all the nation's possessions into arguably the greatest fighting force in the world, the Foreign Legion. Men sign up for the Foreign Legion form all corners of the world, despite racism in French society.
Army Weakness : French artillery is inferior to its foreign counterparts. The nation is experimenting with imported artillery in order to modernize all facets of warfare. Prussian cannon and English shipbuilding especially interest military planning.
Naval Strength : The navy is currently modernizing its armaments. A series of reforms have been issued from shipbuilding all the way down to food rations.
Naval Weakness : France imports naval technology from England and Germany... for now.
Further Military Description :
Roughly 500,000 soldiers at full mobilization
Line Infantry - 320 battalions
Light Infantry - 30 battalions of chasseurs
Heavy Cavalry - 20 cuirassier regiments
Line Cavalry - 16 dragoon and 8 lancer regiments
Light Cavalry - 16 chasseur and 8 hussar regiments. Spahis regiments.
Artillery - 16 field and 4 horse regiments
8 Man-of-Wars, 4 Ironclad, 15 Sloop-of-Wars, 20 Ship-of-Line, 50 brigs, 200 patrol boats

National Goals : Completing industrialization, development of the colonies, building market socialism, and regaining Brittany
National Issues : Despite the nation's new socialist rhetoric, severe poverty and inequality persist, especially in the exploited colonies. Finally addressing poverty is crucial to preventing another revolt.

History : In 1789 the French Revolution abolished feudalism, dramatically ushering in a new capitalist age in Europe. In the early nineteenth century Napoleon Bonaparte expanded the reforms throughout much of Europe before being defeated by a massive coalition of monarchies. In 1815 the Bourbon Monarchy was restored until 1830, when a botched anti-monarchist revolution installed the House of Orleans. The Revolutionary Wave that swept Europe in 1848 toppled the French Crown in February, which was replaced by the Second Republic. [Alt-history begins now.] Because the monarchy's forces were bogged down in Algeria, the 1848 June Days Uprising succeeded, steered French politics towards the left. Labor unions were legalized, and policies have begun to address the issues of the poor and unemployed. The government has a gradualist ideology; it aims to avoid another revolution.

Comparison Points – Political : 1
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 5
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

I expect more from you.... more history....
LOVE the graphic tho...
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