1850 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][CLOSED]

[Oscalantine]

Mexico and if app acdepted, Texas

Sure. Texas seems to be reasonable even using IRL. Now i am afraid that you won't diverge much from IRL history XDDD

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

fuck
i got here late....

[Kosovo12345]

Wait...can I accept myself?
*hits blunt*

[Suekiva]

Who reserved Austria?

[Oscalantine]

Wait...can I accept myself?
*hits blunt*

I would have gently told you to tie yourself to a wall, because I already updated the map.

[Oscalantine]

Who reserved Austria?

Britain, only coastlines.

[Suekiva]

Who reserved Austria?

Britain, only coastlines.

Are you thinking of Australia?

[The Union of Courland]

fuck
i got here late....

Hey old buddy old pal. What's up?

[Oscalantine]

Britain, only coastlines.

Are you thinking of Australia?

Yes I am... fudge...

Austria... some Dan... ... Dracula Federation. I forgot the name ^^

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name : The Roman Empire(Imperium Romanum)
Majority/Official Culture : The main and official culture is Roman, but other cultures exist through the many citizens of the Empire, and remains of the Greek culture exist in Greece and Taurica.
Territorial Core :

Territorial Claim :

Capital City : Constantinople/Byzantium
Population : 29,000,000

Government Type : The Roman Empire has a mixed government. While the Emperor has the supreme authority in civilian, military, and religious matters, the Senate and the People also hold important powers. The Roman Empire works because of the balance between the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome.
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist, Militant, Nationalist, Religious
Government Focus :The Imperial Government usually focuses on the economy and culture, but in the least years, a modernization program has started, in order to bring the glorious Roman Empire on the same level with the Western nations.
Head of State : His Imperial Majesty, Julius II Paleologos, Imperator of the Romans by the Grace of God, Autocrat of all Romans, Despot of all the Lands of the Eternal Roman Empire, King of Greece, Asia Minor and Egypt, Duke of Thrace, Libya and Armenia, Augustus,Caesar,Princeps, Father of the Fatherland, Defender of the One True Faith, Emperor of Emperors, Ruling Over Those Who Rule.
Head of Government : Imperial Chancellor and Tribune Alexander Velsagio.
Government Description :
The Roman Empire has a mixed government. Overall, the Emperor( Imperator/Augustus/Caesar- all titles are used with an almost equal meaning), has the most important authority, having the final say and power in all matters. The Roman Senate, however, elected democratically by all Roman citizens once every five years, also enjoys a large part of the power in the Empire, taking care of governing the Empire. In the last century, ever since the decline of the Roman aristocracy, the Senate represents all people, no matter if they are patricians or plebeians, even if of course, the patricians, because of their wealth, still have a certain deal of influence. After all, the Roman Empire is formed by a strict balance between the Emperor, Senate, and People of Rome.
Majority/State Religion : Eastern/Roman Orthodoxy is the majority religion, but the citizens of the Roman Empire have total religious freedom.
Religious Description :The majority religion in the Roman Empire is the Roman or Eastern Orthodoxy, a one of the two Christian religions that had appeared as a result of the Great Schism in 1054. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Orthodox Church practices what it understands to be the original faith passed down from the Apostles. The Church is led by the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, who is recognized as "primus inter pares"(first among equals) between all the Orthodox bishops. However, the Roman Empire has always been lenient in the matter of religious freedom, and following the Emperor's edict of religious freedom, all Roman citizens are free to follow whatever religion their desire, as long as they respect the Emperor, Senate, and People of Rome.
Economic Ideologies : Capitalist economy, with a strong governmental control.
Major Production : Grains, agricultural products, silk, wood, coal, minerals and iron
Economic Description : The Roman economy is in the middle of a boom,as the recent reforms, inspired by how the Western economies, done with the help of the progressive faction of the Senate, managed to give it a big boost. Most of the Roman economy is based on its agriculture, even if the Empire started to use its natural resources. Also, the Empire is in a very good position for trade, between Europe and Asia, and between the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea.

Army Strength : The Imperial Roman Army( Exercitus Romanorum) is the terrestrial force of the Roman Empire, with a history that spans for millennia. Even if it's not as advanced technologically as its Western or Eastern counterparts, the Exercitus enjoys an extremely strict discipline(the already famous Roman discipline), a harsh training, and various original weapons that are still pretty good, like the firethrowers, and various elite units, like the Varangian Guard and the Scholae Palatinae. The Empire is actively trying to modernize its forces, seeking help for that. The exercitus is organized in Legions( Legiones, singular Legio). The Emperor is the supreme commander of the Exercitus. In times of peace, each Province has its own Legion. Each Legion has it's own commander, a Legate, who is subordinated to the Dux. With 350.000 men in times of peace, each legion has about 17.000 men.
Army Weakness : The Exercitus is technologically inferior to some of its counterparts, and has a pretty conservative way of thinking.
Naval Strength : The Imperial Roman Navy( Classis Romanorum) is the naval force of the Roman Empire. Even if the Classis was never as powerful as the Exercitus, the Roman Empire is a naval power, especially in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea. The Classis has around 90 ships, from which 15 battleships. While technologically inferior to some of its counterparts, the Classis enjoys an excellent discipline, a high morale, and a very good training. The Classis also has the weapon known as Greek or Roman fire, an extremely inflammable substance that can even burn on water, making in a really useful but dangerous weapon. The Classis is also trying to modernize itself, seeking help for that.

Naval Weakness : Once again, it's technological inferiority compared to the Western navies.
Further Military Description :
The Imperial Roman Army( Exercitus Romanorum) is the main military force of the Roman Empire. With about 300.000 soldiers, the Imperial Army is a large and powerful armed force,known for its strict discipline, high morale, and good training. The Exercitus is organized in legions, with a legion having around 17.000 men. Even though the Exercitus is lacking the technological advantages of the Westerners, it isn't something that can be ignored.
The Imperial Roman Guards, are the elite troops of the Roman Empire, the most disciplined and the best trained men in the Imperium. They are divided in two organizations, with similar but overall different purposes. The Varangian Guard is the Emperor's personal guard, under his direct command. The Varangians are mostly of Western or Nordic origin, as being in the Varangian Guard is usually a honor transmitted from father to son. The recruits for the Varangian Guard have to meet several requirements, and are carefully selected, before going to an extensive and harsh training. While a small part of the Varangians are always with the Emperor, being his personal guard, the rest are used as elite troops in difficult situations. The other organization is formed by the Scholae Palatinae. Still considered elite troops, with an excellent discipline, the main difference between the Scholae and the Varangians is that the Scholae is open to all Roman recruits that meet the requirements and pass the tests. A small part of the Scholae is sometimes used to guard foreign officials while in the Empire, but they are mostly used in combat.
The Western Guards(Praesidio Occidentalis), as they are usually called, are a Roman legion trained and armed by Western standards, and a model for the modernization level the rest of the Exercitus has to reach. Their official name is Legio Italica, with their number CDLXXVI( 476).
The Exercitus is also employing mercenaries and irregulars, that are overall known as the Foederati.
The Imperial Roman Navy( Classis Romanorum) is the naval force of the Empire. Protecting the Empire''s trade and interests, with its ports mainly in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea, the Classis is a force to be reckoned with, despite its technological inferiority. The Classis is famous for its use of the Greek Fire, ranging from the usual firethrowing ships, to the newer experiments like the Greek fire cannonballs.
The Classis is sometimes employing pirates to work as privateers for the Empire, but it usually is pretty strict in the matters of piracy.
National Goals : Modernizing the Roman Empire, seeking new allies, gaining good relations with its neighbors strengthening the Roman Hegemony in the Eastern Mediterranean, maybe gaining some colonies.
National Issues : If the Roman Empire wants to survive these new times, it has to be modernized, and it has to get rid of the conservatism, and some of its obsolete rituals and bureaucracy. The Roman Empire is also viewed poorly by most of the West, and has many possible enemies.
National Figures of Interest : Emperor Julius II Palaeologus, Prince Constantine Palaeologus, Prince Alexander Palaeologos, Princess Sophia Palaelologos, Imperial Chancellor Alexander Velsagio, Ecumenical Patriarch Cyril VII.
National Ambition/Aspirations : Reaching a technological level similar to the Western nations, being recognized as the one, true, Roman Empire, regaining control of the original Eastern Roman territories, repairing relations with the West, seek a reunification between the Roman Orthodox and the Catholic Church.
History :

(I will go with the history of the Roman Empire/Byzantium until 610. Sort of, with a few changes.)
In 489, Emperor Zeno grants the support of the Eastern Roman Empire to Western Romans in Italy, in exchange for their loyalty.
In 610, Emperor Heraclius decided to keep the Empire's language to Latin. Inspired by the original Roman Empire, more changes are made, including the creation of the Province System(similar to the Thema System). Latin is used more an more, and the Imperial Authority tries to push the Latin and the Roman culture in front of the Greek ones.
Between 610 and 700, in the Cursed Century, the Empire loses all its African, , and Asian possessions, and is almost pushed back from the entire Italy. Under the rule of Emperor Leo III, the Romans manage to stop the invading forces from conquering Constantinople in 701. From 702 to 720, the Roman armies manage to take back Asia Minor, and starts to push back into Asia. In the following years, the Romans try to gain control of Mesopotamia, but they are defeated into more battles, and forced to return to their former border.
In 750, under the rule of Constantine V, a process of latinization begins. The empire's attempts to push back into Asia are all failures. After the death of Constantine V in 775, the process of latinization continues, but he is followed by weak Emperors. Charlemagne's coronation as Roman Emperor in 800 is another hit for the Empire.
In 917, the Bulgarians cross the Danube and push the Romans back. They besiege the Constantinople in 930, but they fail to take it. The provinces in Bulgaria seem to be lost forever, as the Bulgarians stop all the Roman attempts to take them back.
In 976, Basil II becomes Emperor. He manages to bring the empire together, and in the next decades, he takes Syria back, pushes back and slaughters the Bulgarians. In 1014, all the provinces lost to the Bulgarians are recovered.
In 1055, Italy and Syria are lost. In 1071, in the Battle of Manzikert, the Seljuk Turks are defeated and pushed back. Asia Minor is saved. In 1054, the Pope and the Patriarch excommunicate each other. The West-East Schism.
In 1100, the Romans are defeated in Thrace, and once again lose their Bulgarian provinces. The Turks attack Asia Minor. The Roman Emperor requests help from the Pope, and during the Crusades, the Turks are pushed back, southeastern Asia Minor is taken back, as well as Syria. In 1179, the Seljuk Turks are defeated in the Battle of Myriokephalon, and pushed out of Asia Minor.
In 1200, Syria is lost. The Bulgarians try to attack Constantinople but are pushed back,and defeated. Some of the provinces are recovered. In 1204, the Crusaders try to conquer Constantinople, but they are defeated, and the Crusader fleet is burned down by the Greek Fire.
In the following centuries, the Romans successfully manage to push back the Turks under the Palaeologus Dynasty.Syria is recovered and then lost. Most of the wars with the Bulgarians end with stalemates.
In 1600, under Emperor Julius I the Bulgarians are defeated in two successive wars, and are occupied. The Emperor marries a Princess of Wallachia, and for a short time, Wallachia is in the Roman Empire. In 1620, the Turks attack again, but they are ambushed and defeated. The Roman Armies manage to take control of Syria again, but their attempt to gain Jerusalem is stopped by the Muslims. After that failure, in 1630, the Romans conquer Croatia. All plans of pushing towards Venice and Italy are stopped by the death of Julius I in 1639.His death brings the Empire into a civil war, as his two sons, Alexander and Augustin, are fighting for the throne,
The civil war ends with the victory of Alexander, but the empire lost Syria and Croatia. Wallachia declares independence. A Bulgarian rebellion defeats the Roman Army near Sophia. Bulgaria is lost.
During the 1700's, the empire was led by pretty bad Emperors, but they managed to keep its territorial integrity. A last Turkish attempt to invade Asia Minor is stopped in 1753.
The Roman Empire stayed neutral at the beginning of the Napoleonic Wars. In 1793, taking advantage of a civil war in Bulgaria, the Roman Armies attack and conquer it, wiping out all resistance. The Roman Empire attacks Austria in 1805, and takes back Croatia. In 1809, the Roman Empire is defeated at Kosovo Polje by the combined Austrian, Croatian and Bulgarian troops. Croatia is lost. Peace is signed.
From 1809 until today, the Empire has experienced a great modernization. If this continues, the Empire might once again become a superpower. The road to Rome lies ahead.

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 3
Comparison Points – Economy : 4
Comparison Points – Military : 4
Total Comparison Points used : 13/13

[Soviet Chernarus]

hi guys

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

fuck
i got here late....

Hey old buddy old pal. What's up?

not much
Twisted My ankle.... so thats not fun.

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

hi guys

SOIVET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oscalantine]

hi guys

Hey dude~! Nice seeing you here.

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Map updated~!!

Keep in mind ... Russia of SOME SORT has been reserved. I just don't know exactly which part of Russia is reserved ^^;;;

Same goes for Texas, same goes for Japan.

[Suekiva]

Would a Greek Crimea based of of this work?

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

Guidance Name : The Khan lives on
Guidance Description : The Mongol empire lives on, as a whole.
Affected Area : Mostly Asia, except russia

[The Union of Courland]

hi guys

My Hungarian almost ally. *extends hand for high five*
Gen, play as some nation Brittany would ally with. Like maybe a Carribean nation, or northern Spain. Yeah, play as Northern Spain. Play as a Celtic Northern Spain.

[Soviet Chernarus]

hi guys

My Hungarian almost ally. *extends hand for high five*
Gen, play as some nation Brittany would ally with. Like maybe a Carribean nation, or northern Spain. Yeah, play as Northern Spain. Play as a Celtic Northern Spain.

but the muslims look scary... ;-;

[Tracian Empire]

Would a Greek Crimea based of of this work?

Well, I claimed it, but if my app is accepted, I could let you have it as my vassal.

[The Union of Courland]

My Hungarian almost ally. *extends hand for high five*
Gen, play as some nation Brittany would ally with. Like maybe a Carribean nation, or northern Spain. Yeah, play as Northern Spain. Play as a Celtic Northern Spain.

but the muslims look scary... ;-;

Nah, just bomb em or something. Like we are doing right now. *planes fly overhead, American flag waved in the background*
AMERICA. Bombing Muslim Terrorists since 2001.

[Suekiva]

Would a Greek Crimea based of of this work?

Well, I claimed it, but if my app is accepted, I could let you have it as my vassal.

You only claimed the southern coast right?

[Oscalantine]

Full Nation Name : The Scandinavian Empire (Established from the Swedish Empire
Majority/Official Culture : Swedish (With Norwegian, Danish, and Finnish being the other main cultures)
Territorial Core : Sweden, Norway, Copenhagen, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia. Also, colonies in Haiti (lol fite me France), Greenland, Bermuda, and the Azores
Territorial Claim : The rest of Denmark, Western Africa, and Further into Northern Russia
Capital City : Stockholm
Population : 2.02 million And around 160 Thousand in the colonies. (Primarily Haiti.)

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist
Government Focus : The national economy is the primary focus.
Head of State : Head of Parliament, Cristoph Anderberg
Head of Government : The National Parliament
Government Description : The Scandinavian Government closely followed the British model of a constitutional Monarchy where a parliament is the head of government. The Parliament currently has a primarily conservative and reactionary (67%) majority.

Majority/State Religion : No state religion
Religious Description : No state religion

Economic Ideologies : The main ideology is Capitalism, but government investment in national infrastructure is allowed.
Major Production : Boats, Lumber, Iron, and Furniture
Economic Description : The national economy, and all industry is very dependent on foreign industry and resources from other nations. Hence the government's imperialist policies, and extremely low tariffs.

Army Strength: It is extremely modernized, has decent leadership, and very well supplied.
Army Weakness : It's very small, its soldiers are not experienced (Last engagement was in the Napoleonic wars), and only present in Scandinavia proper. (Only 45 Thousand.)
Naval Strength : Like the army, it is modern, and is very well supplied.
Naval Weakness : It's leadership is garbage, extremely lacking in experience, and is very spread out.
Further Military Description : The Scandinavian Military although very modernized and having great supply numbers and strategies; is very challenged when it comes to location, lack of experience, and in the navy's case poor leadership. The entire army is located in Scandinavia proper, with the colonies just being defenseless (Well, militias are allowed in the colonies)

National Goals : Keep the Scandinavian economy and industry strong, defend the territorial possessions, and expand further in colonial power.
National Issues : The extreme reliance on foreign industry and resources,
National Figures of Interest: -none-
National Ambition/Aspirations : Basically form a huge and stable empire across the planet. Like everyone else.

History : (Going on from the history of the Swedish Empire, but changing around it's ending to spare my sanity :'D)
The Great Northern War was a great failure on Russia, allowing the Swedish Empires to keep it's territory (And take back others lost). Right after, thanks to the Germanic states rebelling and outright fighting Swedish territorial claims, the Swedish Empire had to relinquish control of a few North German states. Also, thanks to multiple wars (And promises to German allies), Denmark was split between the Germans and Swedes (Most of Denmark going to the Germans, and Copenhagen along with the colonies going to Sweden). After the Napoleonic wars, Sweden began attempts to industrialize, losing large amounts of money to failed investments, but eventually succeeding in 1839. Around 1847 the nation reorganized into the Scandinavian Empire, allowing the various cultures within the empire to be represented. (Which in turn, allowed the Empire to be extremely stable) With the reorganization, also came the weakening of the royal family, which was actually welcomed by the people (Primarily within the colonies.).

The Liberal Spring of 1846 however caused great amounts of instability, and almost lead to a nationwide rebellion (Especially in areas like Copenhagen and Finland). The Liberal Spring was a period when Liberal arts and views were finally reaching Sweden from the fallen French Empire, and it's various puppets. During the Liberal Spring, large demonstrations were held in major cities like Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo, Riga, and Helsinki; Each one calling for the government to become a full-fledged democracy. (Something many opposed) Instead, it just caused the conservative and reactionary majority to become severely weakened (Losing 33% of Parliament was deemed very unacceptable.), and was the main reason Sweden was reorganized into the Scandinavian Empire (And the Constitutional monarchy being established of course). However, despite the Liberal Spring threatening national stability, national unrest has been staying at a steady low point ever since the reorganization of the nation. Thanks to the great national stability, the Scandinavian economy has been able to become heavily developed and industrialized. Allowing it to become one of the big industrial powers. (Although, as said, very reliant of foreign industry)
(If anything else needs to be added, IT SHALL BE DONE.)

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 2
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

First of many to come... (whoo~!)
ACCEPTED

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

ALL HAIL THE MONGOLIAN EMPIRE
basically, i reserve china, and mongolia

[The Union of Courland]

My Hungarian almost ally. *extends hand for high five*
Gen, play as some nation Brittany would ally with. Like maybe a Carribean nation, or northern Spain. Yeah, play as Northern Spain. Play as a Celtic Northern Spain.

but the muslims look scary... ;-;

I also didn't mean that you should play, I was talking to In Gentem.

[Oscalantine]

Well, I claimed it, but if my app is accepted, I could let you have it as my vassal.

You only claimed the southern coast right?

Yes, Byzantine only claimed southern Crimea... at least, that's what the map he told me was drawn as... historically, that's about how much Byzantine had to begin with, if I am not mistaken.