A World Without America II [Invite Only, See Within / OOC ]

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Gonna post first Malta joke post.

by **Ruridova** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:51 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Gonna post first Malta joke post.

Malta?

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:55 pm

Ruridova wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Gonna post first Malta joke post.

Malta?

I asked Uni over Skype if I could RP Malta solely as a joke nation that just pops out every once in awhile to be silly. And he said yes. He hath unleashed the beast.

by **Bojikami** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:04 pm

I have said it once and I shall say it again.

The issue here lies not with one person, but with all of us collectively. We all seem to have the inability to look at things through another's point of view. Uni had his plans, Vak has his. What should have been done is that it should have been discussed over TG, not here on the OOC thread as some public spectacle...

I am not taking anyone's side here. I am attempting to see things through another's point of view. I could have, as China attacked Korea and forcibly subjugated them, but I would assume that would be no fun for Luz so I try to resolve the issue diplomatically. Jeff wanted to keep eastern Ukraine, so I let him have it when I could have just said no and walked off. And Ruri is also a great example of one offering up his own ambitions for the collective good.

I again am not trying to make anyone out as an angel or a devil, but I am merely reminding everyone here that we are civilised adults and we should handle these arguments as such.

by **Estainia** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:17 pm

The Romans went over the Pyrenees, Charlemagne did it; hell, Charlemagne is famous for it; every King of France to invade the Basque Kingdom of Navarra... You can go over mountains on foot prior to the modern day. Amphibious actions were likewise, perfectly doable; however they were far smaller on scale than anything from WWI or WWII, the British for example landed troops constantly during the American War of Independence.

TLDR: If France wants to invade Spain, it can be done from both land and sea.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:20 pm

Estainia wrote:The Romans went over the Pyrenees, Charlemagne did it; hell, Charlemagne is famous for it; every King of France to invade the Basque Kingdom of Navarra... You can go over mountains on foot prior to the modern day. Amphibious actions were likewise, perfectly doable; however they were far smaller on scale than anything from WWI or WWII, the British for example landed troops constantly during the American War of Independence.

TLDR: If France wants to invade Spain, it can be done from both land and sea.

The Romans were also not fighting a united Spain.

About me · by **Luziyca** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:35 pm

Bojikami wrote:I have said it once and I shall say it again.

The issue here lies not with one person, but with all of us collectively. We all seem to have the inability to look at things through another's point of view. Uni had his plans, Vak has his. What should have been done is that it should have been discussed over TG, not here on the OOC thread as some public spectacle...

I am not taking anyone's side here. I am attempting to see things through another's point of view. I could have, as China attacked Korea and forcibly subjugated them, but I would assume that would be no fun for Luz so I try to resolve the issue diplomatically. Jeff wanted to keep eastern Ukraine, so I let him have it when I could have just said no and walked off. And Ruri is also a great example of one offering up his own ambitions for the collective good.

I again am not trying to make anyone out as an angel or a devil, but I am merely reminding everyone here that we are civilised adults and we should handle these arguments as such.

Indeed. At some point, I should consider a Korean Civil War between his son and radical Confucians.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:39 pm

After further consideration, the possibility of a war is more realistic than I thought before; however, it would be a difficult one for both sides, due to already strained relations between the two nations leading to readiness for war.

by **Ruridova** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:01 pm

I became outright famous for making these last AWWA, and it seemed wrong to not have them this time around... leadership lists. As always, the lists assume there are no presently-unplanned government changes in my nations and are thus wholly subject to change. Furthermore, the lists of leaders for states that come into the RP after the present date are even more fluid and even more subject to change. If I give up a territory then this gets thrown right out the window in all likelihood. The OP could probably have a say in all this because they are OP. Names may change because I feel like it. Do not take this list with nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. All rights reserved. Violations punishable by Simon, Garfunkel, or both.

(presently unfinished, more coming soon!)

by **Bojikami** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:18 am

Oh my god, I completely forgot about these lists.

by **The Vaktovian Empire** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:23 am

Uni, I understand you've been shit on, but you're also shitting on me. Not allowing me to be Austria just because you have something against me isn't fair. And i think if we just discuss the war over civilly by TG and plan it out like we did with topics in the last RP, it would work much better. I'm in a much calmer state of mind.

by **Bojikami** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:21 am

I would also like to remind everyone that this still exists: http://a-world-without-america-ns.wikia ... _-_NS_Wiki

Just when you post your current nations, add (AWWA2) to the end of the Title to set it apart from AWWA1 articles.

by **Mitteleuropa** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:59 am

I'm hereby increasing the cap of nations to 5. But please be reasonable

I reserve Brazil / Portugal in Exile when Vak conquers it. But that already doesn't count toward the total...

by **Bojikami** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:08 am

Mitteleuropa wrote:I'm hereby increasing the cap of nations to 5. But please be reasonable

I reserve Brazil / Portugal in Exile when Vak conquers it.

Speaking of, I reserve Vietnam.

by **Ruridova** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:15 am

Hm, what other countries are left that might be interesting?

by **Bojikami** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:29 am

Ruridova wrote:Hm, what other countries are left that might be interesting?

La Plata? Any post-British Empire country?

by **Ruridova** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:15 am

Bojikami wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Hm, what other countries are left that might be interesting?

La Plata? Any post-British Empire country?

I think I'll take what's left of the Mughals.

EDIT: I may not take a new nation. I may take the Mughals. It's uncertain.

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:21 pm

Friendly reminder, you must apply for every new nation you take, even if you had it before, and dropped it.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:26 pm

Thank you for the reminder, I wasn't sure if I needed to for my old one; I'll just copy and paste my old app:

Nation Claimed: Ethiopian Empire
Head of State: Tekle Haymanot II
Head of Government: Tekle Haymanot II
Capital: Addis Ababa
Government type (as of 1773): Absolute Monarchy

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:31 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Thank you for the reminder, I wasn't sure if I needed to for my old one; I'll just copy and paste my old app:

Nation Claimed: Ethiopian Empire
Head of State: Tekle Haymanot II
Head of Government: Tekle Haymanot II
Capital: Addis Ababa
Government type (as of 1773): Absolute Monarchy

Approved.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:32 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Bojikami wrote:La Plata? Any post-British Empire country?

I think I'll take what's left of the Mughals.

EDIT: I may not take a new nation. I may take the Mughals. It's uncertain.

There are also various Amerindian tribes remaining (though care should be taken not to turn them into America); there is also Persia and various Princely States. The Maori are also in existence. Also countries in West, Central, and Southern Africa. Lots of nations, really.

Edit: Thank you for approval. I debated whether to do a pun on approval like "OProval", but decided this would be a grave sin.

by **Bojikami** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:42 pm

NS Name: Bojikami
Nation Claimed: Dai Viet
Head of State: Lê Hiển Tông
Head of Government:N/A
Capital: Hanoi
Government type (as of 1773): Despotic Monarchy

by **The Vaktovian Empire** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:43 pm

NS Name: The Vaktovian Empire
Nation Claimed: Austrian Empire
Head of State: Joseph II- House of Hapsburg
Head of Government: N/A
Capital: Vienna
Government type: Absolute Monarchy/ Holy Roman Empire

NS Name: The Vaktovian Empire
Nation Claimed: Republic of Genoa
Head of State: Duke of Savoy Scipio Garibaldi
Head of Government: Prime Minister Arnoldo Ronato
Capital: Genoa City
Government type (as of 1773): Duchy Republic

by **The Vaktovian Empire** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:50 pm

Ruridova wrote:Hm, what other countries are left that might be interesting?

I highly suggest one of the HRE elector states that are larger like Bavaria. I need someone to play them unless I am allowed to play as them as well as long as I don't have them suddenly unify with Austria and be like "Oh yeah, we'll just let ourselves get grouped in as a giant United Holy Roman Empire even though that fucked us a few hundred years ago". If not that, then I then highly suggest Venice, or Serbia, give me a bit of a problem as Austria.

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:01 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:NS Name: The Vaktovian Empire
Nation Claimed: Austrian Empire
Head of State: Joseph II- House of Hapsburg
Head of Government: N/A
Capital: Vienna
Government type: Absolute Monarchy/ Holy Roman Empire

Genoa approved, Austria denied.

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