A World Without America II [Invite Only, See Within / OOC ]

[The Vaktovian Empire]

I'm RPing the Moroccan troops.

Tell me when an OP or co-OP gave you permission to RP Morocco's troops. I specifically stated that was something that would be assigned at OP or co-OP discretion, not at random selection.

XI. OP and Co-OPs will roleplay as NPC nations on a need-be basis (military invasion w/o proper justification, for example, or if someone is a known godmodder).

Military invasion without proper justification. It wasn't an invasion, it was a deployment siding with Moroccan troops. And if you're going to call it an invasion it had justification; advancement of Egyptian troops into a foreign, sovereign entity that it felt was in its sphere of influence.

AND of course you would now get France involved. You know, even though France and every other European power would want to stay out of this, or at the very least limit the power of an Arab supernation to gain control in European affairs i.e Spain. But yeah, the realism level is wild. But of course I could say you're abusing your power as OP, and that Shrilll never did, but I'm not going to actually SAY that, because that'd be stepping out of line.

[Unicario]

King Louis XVI responded shortly afterwards, saying he would consider it. France however, began to send privateers out into the Mediterranean to help the Barbary Pirates and Egypt deal with the Spanish threat -- France set up military soldiers in Toulouse and Aquitaine to ensure Spain didn't try anything funny -- but King Louis debated on the possibility of war against Spain to help Egypt as a secondary goal to restoring the Spanish Bourbons. Louis XVI was supported by the rightful Spanish King, Charles III and his heir, to restore him.

France postured, in case of war, to lead two invasion paths, one through the Western passage of the Pyrenees into Euskadi, the other into Catalonia through the Eastern passage.

Also, this is pretty meta-gamey.

I have a feeling that the only reason it's being done is to achieve parity with Spain. Also, there would be a great deal of Spanish military readiness on the Pyrenees border.

Nope.

Tell me when an OP or co-OP gave you permission to RP Morocco's troops. I specifically stated that was something that would be assigned at OP or co-OP discretion, not at random selection.

Military invasion without proper justification. It wasn't an invasion, it was a deployment siding with Moroccan troops. And if you're going to call it an invasion it had justification; advancement of Egyptian troops into a foreign, sovereign entity that it felt was in its sphere of influence.

AND of course you would now get France involved. You know, even though France and every other European power would want to stay out of this, or at the very least limit the power of an Arab supernation to gain control in European affairs i.e Spain. But yeah, the realism level is wild. But of course I could say you're abusing your power as OP, and that Shrilll never did, but I'm not going to actually SAY that, because that'd be stepping out of line.

Go ahead and call me an abusive OP, go ahead and say it's metagaming, I don't give a fuck. I'm acting within historical capacity. France has had known military alliances with Islamic powers, France has an interest in deposing the Spanish dynasty that sits in power, and France has EVERY INTEREST to break Spanish military power for it's own territorial gain.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

If I can agree that I was wrong in suspecting that you were "plotting" in all of this Uni, and admit I was wrong for not asking first about RPing Morocco's troops and doing all that other bullshit, could you at least allow me to play Morocco's troops and its government as long as I do so realistically? And admit that what I said up there was totally out of line^?

As well as that, we need to discuss Austria, which is getting put off by this in-congruent bickering on my part, but the Austrian question is a signifigant one because Austria is an important piece for both Prussia, and Greece, and I want to be a part of it but you need verification that I know how to handle that responsibility.

[United Marxist Nations]

Also, this is pretty meta-gamey.

I have a feeling that the only reason it's being done is to achieve parity with Spain. Also, there would be a great deal of Spanish military readiness on the Pyrenees border.

Nope.

Military invasion without proper justification. It wasn't an invasion, it was a deployment siding with Moroccan troops. And if you're going to call it an invasion it had justification; advancement of Egyptian troops into a foreign, sovereign entity that it felt was in its sphere of influence.

AND of course you would now get France involved. You know, even though France and every other European power would want to stay out of this, or at the very least limit the power of an Arab supernation to gain control in European affairs i.e Spain. But yeah, the realism level is wild. But of course I could say you're abusing your power as OP, and that Shrilll never did, but I'm not going to actually SAY that, because that'd be stepping out of line.

Go ahead and call me an abusive OP, go ahead and say it's metagaming, I don't give a fuck. I'm acting within historical capacity. France has had known military alliances with Islamic powers, France has an interest in deposing the Spanish dynasty that sits in power, and France has EVERY INTEREST to break Spanish military power for it's own territorial gain.

France had a military alliance with the Ottomans. They would not want to help their enemies.

[Unicario]

Nope.



Go ahead and call me an abusive OP, go ahead and say it's metagaming, I don't give a fuck. I'm acting within historical capacity. France has had known military alliances with Islamic powers, France has an interest in deposing the Spanish dynasty that sits in power, and France has EVERY INTEREST to break Spanish military power for it's own territorial gain.

France had a military alliance with the Ottomans. They would not want to help their enemies.

France has no friends, only interests.

[Ruridova]

France had a military alliance with the Ottomans. They would not want to help their enemies.

France has no friends, only interests.

France was definitely friendly to the Ottomans if I remember correctly.

[United Marxist Nations]

France had a military alliance with the Ottomans. They would not want to help their enemies.

France has no friends, only interests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Ottoman_alliance

[United Marxist Nations]

Vak, delete the part of your post relating to Northern Spain, France hasn't actually launched an attack yet.

[Unicario]

FRANCE HASN'T INVADED SPAIN YET, LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Vak, delete the part of your post relating to Northern Spain, France hasn't actually launched an attack yet.

Gotcha. Thanks dude.

[Ruridova]

FRANCE HASN'T INVADED SPAIN YET, LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST

Good lord, chill. It was an honest mistake. Any one of us could have made it. I'd bet that all of us have at some point.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Uni I'd like to know why you told me to stop godmodding in the IC when I didn't do anything godmoddy besides the fact I thought you were attacking me...

[Unicario]

France has no friends, only interests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Ottoman_alliance

My counter to that is that in the two years between the huge Ottoman War... and 1775... France could change it's alliance.

Uni I'd like to know why you told me to stop godmodding in the IC when I didn't do anything godmoddy besides the fact I thought you were attacking me...

Because you posted Spain and France at war even though you have no idea the privateers are French, and France hasn't even attacked yet. That issue has been resolved.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

FRANCE HASN'T INVADED SPAIN YET, LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST

Good lord, chill. It was an honest mistake. Any one of us could have made it. I'd bet that all of us have at some point.

Honestly think I will have to depart from this RP, it's been a pleasure serving alongside all of you. *Gives Salute*

[Unicario]

FRANCE HASN'T INVADED SPAIN YET, LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST

Good lord, chill. It was an honest mistake. Any one of us could have made it. I'd bet that all of us have at some point.

Well I'm sick and tired of everyone in this RP shitting down my throat. It's like AWWA 0 all over again.

[Unicario]

Good lord, chill. It was an honest mistake. Any one of us could have made it. I'd bet that all of us have at some point.

Honestly think I will have to depart from this RP, it's been a pleasure serving alongside all of you. *Gives Salute*

You don't have to leave. @_@

[United Marxist Nations]

Honestly think I will have to depart from this RP, it's been a pleasure serving alongside all of you. *Gives Salute*

You don't have to leave. @_@

It seems to be either that or getting his teeth kicked in by magical Franco-Egyptian Alliance that has inexplicably popped up.

[United Marxist Nations]

Good lord, chill. It was an honest mistake. Any one of us could have made it. I'd bet that all of us have at some point.

Well I'm sick and tired of everyone in this RP shitting down my throat. It's like AWWA 0 all over again.

Lol, you have three great powers and no one else has more than one, how the hell is anyone shitting down your throat?

[Unicario]

You don't have to leave. @_@

It seems to be either that or getting his teeth kicked in by magical Franco-Egyptian Alliance that has inexplicably popped up.

It's an alliance of convenience. Kinda like the magical Axis-Soviet "alliance" in 1939; They hated each other, but they found a common enemy to beat the shit out of, and are on the same side for that reason.

Well I'm sick and tired of everyone in this RP shitting down my throat. It's like AWWA 0 all over again.

Lol, you have three great powers and no one else has more than one, how the hell is anyone shitting down your throat?

Because everybody is being an asshole to me.

[United Marxist Nations]

It seems to be either that or getting his teeth kicked in by magical Franco-Egyptian Alliance that has inexplicably popped up.

It's an alliance of convenience. Kinda like the magical Axis-Soviet "alliance" in 1939; They hated each other, but they found a common enemy to beat the shit out of, and are on the same side for that reason.

Lol, you have three great powers and no one else has more than one, how the hell is anyone shitting down your throat?

Because everybody is being an asshole to me.

1) The German Soviet Pact was to buy time for a future war against Germany. And it is worth noting that France also has a mutual enemy in Egypt as well.

2) Thus far, the only ones in the RP that hasn't been assholes to someone at some point or other are Ruri and Boji. EDIT: And the "LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST" in giant red letters was just as bad if not worse than I've seen anyone say to you.

[Bojikami]

It's an alliance of convenience. Kinda like the magical Axis-Soviet "alliance" in 1939; They hated each other, but they found a common enemy to beat the shit out of, and are on the same side for that reason.



Because everybody is being an asshole to me.

1) The German Soviet Pact was to buy time for a future war against Germany. And it is worth noting that France also has a mutual enemy in Egypt as well.

2) Thus far, the only ones in the RP that hasn't been assholes to someone at some point or other are Ruri and Boji.

Well, we have a person who decides these things. I don't know why we are having some huge argument over it.

[Ruridova]

It's an alliance of convenience. Kinda like the magical Axis-Soviet "alliance" in 1939; They hated each other, but they found a common enemy to beat the shit out of, and are on the same side for that reason.



Because everybody is being an asshole to me.

1) The German Soviet Pact was to buy time for a future war against Germany. And it is worth noting that France also has a mutual enemy in Egypt as well.

2) Thus far, the only ones in the RP that hasn't been assholes to someone at some point or other are Ruri and Boji. EDIT: And the "LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST" in giant red letters was just as bad if not worse than I've seen anyone say to you.

I was enough of an asshole last RP that I am not who you should bring up when talking about non-assholes.

[United Marxist Nations]

1) The German Soviet Pact was to buy time for a future war against Germany. And it is worth noting that France also has a mutual enemy in Egypt as well.

2) Thus far, the only ones in the RP that hasn't been assholes to someone at some point or other are Ruri and Boji. EDIT: And the "LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST" in giant red letters was just as bad if not worse than I've seen anyone say to you.

I was enough of an asshole last RP that I am not who you should bring up when talking about non-assholes.

Take my compliment.

But really, thus far you have been quite pleasant (from what I can tell).

[Ruridova]

I was enough of an asshole last RP that I am not who you should bring up when talking about non-assholes.

Take my compliment.

But really, thus far you have been quite pleasant (from what I can tell).

Because I'm trying to avoid becoming me last RP.

[United Marxist Nations]

1) The German Soviet Pact was to buy time for a future war against Germany. And it is worth noting that France also has a mutual enemy in Egypt as well.

2) Thus far, the only ones in the RP that hasn't been assholes to someone at some point or other are Ruri and Boji.

Well, we have a person who decides these things. I don't know why we are having some huge argument over it.

Because it seems that weaker RP'ers are quickly being rubbed out by stronger ones. Yes, we all want to have our nations be powerful, but it's kind of a dick move to move in to cripple someone's nation within only a handful of pages into the IC.