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Postby Bujahla » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:15 pm

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Sure. Investments are fine.




Yay! Thanks! #ItsGreatGatsbyTime #JazzAgeHereWeCome #USEconomBestEconomy



Tbh this thread is slow.

And I aint gonna read those missing pages (yet).




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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:16 pm

Did I see economic aid???

Belgay wants all the economic aid save us pls red baguette scary

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Postby Greater Mid West » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:16 pm

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Greater Mid West wrote:So you ok with GB investing some economic aid?


Sure. Investments are fine.

Hanover, we are good

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Postby Alleniana » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:17 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Did I see economic aid???

Belgay wants all the economic aid save us pls red baguette scary

scandinav will of invest
mabe

eedit;
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You remind me of Azula :(

I know you say that you are not scary, but to me you are #NIEffects


"Azula was sadistic, manipulative, and obsessed with power."

"Azula harbored deep mental instabilities,"

"caused her to suffer a complete mental breakdown."

.....I see.

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Postby Bujahla » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:21 pm

US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.
*Huzzah he lives!*

Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Alleniana » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:23 pm

Bujahla wrote:US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.

Scandinavia would be fundamentally opposed, since it means that the lovely war-torn markets that have opened up for Skandy all over Europe suddenly get drawn overseas, but at the same time, it gives them more purchasing power, and it generally only helps our friends...
We'll observe, if that's possible.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:23 pm

Bujahla wrote:US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.


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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:23 pm

Greater Mid West wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Sure. Investments are fine.

Hanover, we are good


Good to hear! So, considering what your country needs, Britain is willing to build two power generator plants, a comprehensive improvement and expansion of the Buenos Aires metro (if there is an existing one, if not we will build it), an expansion of your railroad lines, and the construction of telephone factory in Buenos Aires.
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:24 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Did I see economic aid???

Belgay wants all the economic aid save us pls red baguette scary

Would you be interested in selling Suriname to Brazil?

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:24 pm

Bujahla wrote:US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.


I smell a Great Depression on the making :P
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:24 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Did I see economic aid???

Belgay wants all the economic aid save us pls red baguette scary

Would you be interested in selling Suriname to Brazil?


No bc I don't own Suriname

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Postby Alleniana » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:25 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:Would you be interested in selling Suriname to Brazil?


No bc I don't own Suriname

Was about to say so. :p
Though, I personally vote for it to be allocated to Finland, so that a French tricolour appears.

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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:26 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:Would you be interested in selling Suriname to Brazil?


No bc I don't own Suriname

Oh sorry, for like 5 seconds I thought you were the dutch and yeah. Anyways Hi Glit :lol:

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:26 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
No bc I don't own Suriname

Was about to say so. :p
Though, I personally vote for it to be allocated to Finland, so that a French tricolour appears.


I vote for it to be held in London *Nods*

Jk, I would vote for Copenhagen (*looks at Allen*)
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:27 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
No bc I don't own Suriname

Oh sorry, for like 5 seconds I thought you were the dutch and yeah. Anyways Hi Glit :lol:


Ask the French, I am sure they will sell Suriname in exchange of some good money (they need it right now)
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:27 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
No bc I don't own Suriname

Oh sorry, for like 5 seconds I thought you were the dutch and yeah. Anyways Hi Glit :lol:


Nah.

But the Dutch and I are besties. Benelux is on the verge of being formed. Especially since Luxembourg is a satellite of Belgium, well for now it is. Eventually we will be loosening our grip on Luxy once we form Benelux with the Dutchies. But I won't be RPing the Dutch as Benelux will not be one nation.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:28 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Was about to say so. :p
Though, I personally vote for it to be allocated to Finland, so that a French tricolour appears.


I vote for it to be held in London *Nods*

Jk, I would vote for Copenhagen (*looks at Allen*)


lol why Allen isn't even joining nor does he need the money

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Postby Alleniana » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:28 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Was about to say so. :p
Though, I personally vote for it to be allocated to Finland, so that a French tricolour appears.


I vote for it to be held in London *Nods*

Jk, I would vote for Copenhagen (*looks at Allen*)

Oh, I meant allocate Suriname to Finland. :P

I'd be happy to hold it in Copenhagen, but given that Scandinavia won't be a particularly active participant, not sure about how wise it is. If you need ze København, call me.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:29 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I vote for it to be held in London *Nods*

Jk, I would vote for Copenhagen (*looks at Allen*)

Oh, I meant allocate Suriname to Finland. :P

I'd be happy to hold it in Copenhagen, but given that Scandinavia won't be a particularly active participant, not sure about how wise it is. If you need ze København, call me.


For that same reason. A nation that could care less about it is the most neutral nation there is :lol:
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Postby Greater Mid West » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:31 pm

I vote for Madrid (if my vote counts)

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Greater Mid West wrote: Hanover, we are good


Good to hear! So, considering what your country needs, Britain is willing to build two power generator plants, a comprehensive improvement and expansion of the Buenos Aires metro (if there is an existing one, if not we will build it), an expansion of your railroad lines, and the construction of telephone factory in Buenos Aires.
That is a good idea, we also need some road infrastructure

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Postby Bujahla » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:37 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Bujahla wrote:US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.


I smell a Great Depression on the making :P


Yeah in 10 years, and I can't RP based on that knowledge.

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Bujahla wrote:US will host a conference soon (in whatever European country that'd like to hold it) for an expansion of the "Young Plan" to create a massive loan system similar to that and the Dawes Plan. Essentially, you'll get lots of US loans to buy US products and we'll invest in your vital industry (eg. In Italy we'd invest in Fiat to rebuild it) and prove that capitalism > communism.

Scandinavia would be fundamentally opposed, since it means that the lovely war-torn markets that have opened up for Skandy all over Europe suddenly get drawn overseas, but at the same time, it gives them more purchasing power, and it generally only helps our friends...
We'll observe, if that's possible.


That's possible.

And I'm thinking Brussels.
*Huzzah he lives!*

Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Generic Info
Nation Name: French Socialist Republic|République française socialiste|People's Republic of France
Symbols: Flag; Coat of Arms; Marianne; La Marseillaise, etc.
Homeland Population: 41,860,000
Imperial Population: None (Imperial land is controlled by the Third Republic).
Location/Claims: #1 (Actually #24)| France, French Empire, much of German Africa; Scandinavian Africa; Aegean Tunisia; Wallonia; Alsace-Lorraine; etc.
Capital City: Paris (official); Lyon (temporary)

Government Info
Government Type: Single-party Unitary Socialist State.
Brief Explanation of Government: Er.... The government is dominated by members of the Section française de l'Internationale communiste, which exercises an extraordinary degree of control over the lower levels of the Party. Unitary is self-explanatory, socialist state is also self-explanatory, etc. The People's Assembly is made up of representatives from each province, as well as three representatives from each of the national cadres -- the Farmers', the Workers' and the Soldiers'. The Assembly is overseen by Jules Guesde, but due to his illness, is most often controlled by Ludovic-Oscar Frossard, his hand-picked successor.
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism (rejection of Socialism in One State policy); dips into Left Communism; Gender Equality; Marxist Feminism; split between conservative and left-wing nationalism; Revanchism; Irredentism, etc.
Leader/s: Chairman of the Central Committee of the Republique Francaise Socialiste: Jules Guesde; Premier of the State Council of the Republique Francaise Socialiste: Ludovic-Oscar Frossard

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: La French are extraordinarily liberal when it comes to being, well, "French". If you live in France, you are French! If you were born in France, you are French! If you die in France, well, you're either French or a filthy foreigner. There are some within the Socialist State that believe that "speaking French" also makes one French, leading them to press claims against various nations, while those in the Third Republic refuse to recognize the citizenship of those who advocate pro- Socialist or Communist views.
Religion: Catholic (in the Third Republic); Secular (in the Socialist State)
Ethnicity: French.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French, Breton, Occitanian, Basque.
Other Cultures: Corsican, Belgian/Walloons; Italian/Swiss; German (scapegoated).

Economy/Infrastructure Info
Brief Description of your Economy: It's in a Civil War, so there's really not all that much to say. The economy of France, thanks to wide-spread industrialization earlier on, is strong, but a civil war pushes it to the breaking point. Trade (exports) have withered to nothing, leaving the Third Republic with large deficits, only propped up by foreign loans and support, while the Socialist State is maintained only through momentum. At its height, the economy would have been second only to Germany in Europe, and a very close second at that. The widespread production of cars, trains, and aircraft prove to be a mainstay of the French economy, but women have taken an increasing role in the production of French industrial machinery.
Main exports: Some refugees (from the Third Republic), war, and COMMUNISM. Also, machinery, aircraft, vehicles (cars, trains, etc), pharmaceutical equipment and products, wine, cheese, baguettes, etc.
Main imports: Gas/petroleum, raw materials such as rubber, food (from Italy), loans from Britain/USC, guns/war material from various sides.
Brief Description of your Infrastructure: Infrastructure is surprisingly good, for a country in a civil war. Before the wars, France had railroads connecting all the major cities (and most minor ones), followed by an extensive road system that connected all but the smallest hamlets. Due to the French primacy in aircraft production, airports existed outside most major cities, although most have been re-purposed for military use. The infrastructure is destroyed in the primary areas of the civil war, but the Socialist State has embarked on a campaign to rebuild the infrastructure and economy in regions it controls, while the Third Republic is always careful to maintain their supply lines north, to Belgium and the Channel ports.

Military Info
Army: 4,017,000 men and women fighting in the war currently. Approximately 2.5 million on the side of the Socialist state, and 1.5 on the side of the Third Republic. This includes guerrillas, support, reserves, etc. The Socialist State has the army organized in local cadres and groupings, preferring to assign generals to a region to coordinate the operations within that area. The Third Republic uses well-organized armies, but sacrifices a great deal of mobility for overwhelming firepower. In a head-on fight, the Third Republic usually wins, but the Socialist State rarely, if ever, lets a head-on fight occur.
Navy:
  • 7 Dreadnoughts
  • 5 semi-dreadnoughts
  • 12 Battleships
  • 2 coast defense ships
  • 26 cruisers
  • 5 seaplane carrier
  • 110 destroyers
  • 60 submarines

Nearly all under Nationalist control, in the northern ports of France, or scattered throughout the colonial empire. The Communist party controls 2 of these dreadnoughts, 4 battleships, 17 cruisers, 45 destroyers, and 35 submarines.
Air Force: The Aéronautique Militaire has over 4,000 combat aircraft in the skies of France on both sides. An additional ~600 aircraft act as transports or reconnaissance aircraft.

Diplomacy Info
Brief description of your Foreign Policy: Currently embroiled in a massive civil war, the Socialist State is not interested in the outside world, but some are making plans for the long-run, in the event of a Communist victory. Intensely loyal to Italy for the Italians' help and support in the civil war, and supportive of Russia for being communist buddies. Despises the USC, harbors deep mistrust for Germany and Britain. Has great hopes for Spain (especially Catalunya), Belgium/Netherlands, and Switzerland.
Protectorates/Dominions/Satellites: None (unless I can have Switzerland?)
Alliance/Alignments: Comintern, realistically. Pro-Italy and red Russia.
Other aspects: Nothing really to know about the foreign policy. The Third Republic is funded by the British and the USC, while the Socialist State is supported by the people and the Italians

Other Info
Goals: Crush Third Republic, establish glorious People's Republic. Bring Belgium/Switzerland into the Communist fold. Secure overseas empire, while funding Communist/Socialist rebels in Catalunya. Retake Alsace-Lorraine from the Hun.
History: After the defeat of the French Empire in 1815, France was overtaken by a spirit of ultra-nationalism and a determination to rebuild from the devastation of the Napoleonic Wars. Graduates of the Grandes écoles were dispatched to nearly every corner of the Hexagon, and the central government was determined to encourage industrial and economic growth wherever possible. Over the next few decades, the French built a massive rail system, followed by a road system, allowing their economy to flourish and grow steadily. In this world, the French government, while creating a positive relationship with Britain, were always keenly aware of the defeats inflicted upon them by the British and Prussian/Germanic armies -- the centers of industry were formed in central and southern France, well away from the Channel and the future German border.

This system of industrialization continued, allowing France to consistently maintain itself as one of the Great Powers, buoyed by their developing Colonial Empire. Large scale unions, which would prove to be the bastion of Socialist support after the writings of Marx, appeared during the latter half of the 19th century. Growing Germanic influence in Africa and Europe, followed by France's crushing defeat in 1871, led to inevitable tensions between the two nations. In the War to End All Wars, the use of revolutionary mechanized and mobile infantry allowed the Germans to score numerous victories on the Western front, forcing France to the negotiation table in 1917. Faced with an extraordinarily angry populace, and an even angrier military, the Third Republic attempted to govern a France that was teeming with distrust and anger.

In a governmental coup d'etat, the Third Republic was toppled by those who sought an immediate confrontation with the Hun, vowing to repay them ten thousand times over. The Fourth Republic was declared in Paris, but lasted less than a month, as the citizens of Paris rose up against the local forces -- and Paris burned for the first time. In the north, Marshal Petain vowed that the Fourth Republic had no legitimacy, and thus could not command himself or his men, establishing the remnants of the Third Republic in Rouen. In Lyon, Toulouse, and every city between, unions, cadres, and popular movements rose up following a passionate radio appeal by Jules Guesde, wherein he declared the establishment of the French Socialist State, promising equality and prosperity for all French citizens. Striking quickly, Petain seized Paris from the Parisian Commune -- and Paris burned for the second time -- sending his troops to squash rebellions and the remnants of the Fourth Republic. For a time, it seemed that Marshal Petain might save the Third Republic, and re-establish order, but as Republic troops entered Clermont-Ferrand, they were fired upon by self-proclaimed members of the Socialist State.

The war was is devastating. However, buoyed by consistent popular support, and urged on by the charismatic speeches and broadcasts of Guesde and Frossard, the Socialist State has managed to push the Third Republic unrelentingly backwards. While the Republic uses techniques and strategies hones in the Great War, and is held up by consistent loans by the British and the Columbians, the Socialist State has adopted the techniques of the great general Charles de Gaulle -- who was killed by a Socialist sniper in the Battle for Bourges. What was once used to great effect against the Socialists has now become their greatest weapon.

Now, in the dawn of the year 1921, the Socialists control much of France, from La Rochelle in the west to Mulhouse in the east, and Orleans in the north. Overseas, however, the Third Republic remains in control of the French Colonial Empire, but as Columbia and Britain eye them hungrily, that may not always remain the case....
RP Sample: Eh....No.
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Postby Greater Mid West » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:45 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Oh, I meant allocate Suriname to Finland. :P

I'd be happy to hold it in Copenhagen, but given that Scandinavia won't be a particularly active participant, not sure about how wise it is. If you need ze København, call me.


For that same reason. A nation that could care less about it is the most neutral nation there is :lol:
I still support Madrid xD

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Postby Greater Mid West » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:45 pm

Bujahla wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I smell a Great Depression on the making :P


Yeah in 10 years, and I can't RP based on that knowledge.

Alleniana wrote:Scandinavia would be fundamentally opposed, since it means that the lovely war-torn markets that have opened up for Skandy all over Europe suddenly get drawn overseas, but at the same time, it gives them more purchasing power, and it generally only helps our friends...
We'll observe, if that's possible.


That's possible.

And I'm thinking Brussels.
Madrid! Madrid! xD

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:48 pm

Greater Mid West wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
For that same reason. A nation that could care less about it is the most neutral nation there is :lol:
I still support Madrid xD


Why Madrid?
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