AWWA-Yesterday, Today, and Forever(OOC-Closed)

[Unicario]

Again, there's possibly going to be a Second Yugoslav War in the 1990s where the Slovenes, Bosniaks, and Kosovars try and succeed at making a break for it.
But the potential for accidental border crossings provided by an utterly confusing border is too immense!

Really, just copy and paste BiH on this map into your map; this one has the border between the Bosniak-Croat Federation and the Republika Srspka in gray, so just make it white to show that it's a national border and color the things on both sides.

That's not set in stone, though, and regardless it doesn't have to be universal. It might be perfectly alive in Yugoslavia, what with the country's weak monarchy and perpetual ethnic tension. Hell, the CSA might have some sort of briefly-prominent fascist movement after losing to Japan, especially because the peace lobby was selling reconciliation as the Japanese prepared for war.

1. Fair enough; but I'd suggest moving the Second Yugoslav War up; the Slovenes aren't going to sit for a half-century before exploding.
2. OK, I can do that. (Map and the crossings)
3. There Can Be No Reconciliation Until The Confederate Imperialists Return Hawaii.

But the potential for accidental border crossings provided by an utterly confusing border is too immense!

Really, just copy and paste BiH on this map into your map; this one has the border between the Bosniak-Croat Federation and the Republika Srspka in gray, so just make it white to show that it's a national border and color the things on both sides.

You could just make Bosnia a massive jigsaw puzzle, such as having a part of Sarajevo be inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia...

It will put the madness that is the OTL exclave and enclaves on the Indian-Bangladeshi border to shame.

I'm not a miracle worker, and our map is pretty small. I would move our map over to the AlternateHistory.org standards, but I don't have the time for that these days. ^^

[Qianrong]

But the potential for accidental border crossings provided by an utterly confusing border is too immense!

Really, just copy and paste BiH on this map into your map; this one has the border between the Bosniak-Croat Federation and the Republika Srspka in gray, so just make it white to show that it's a national border and color the things on both sides.

You could just make Bosnia a massive jigsaw puzzle, such as having a part of Sarajevo be inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia...

It will put the madness that is the OTL exclave and enclaves on the Indian-Bangladeshi border to shame.

/kick Luziyca I need a way to devoice you on the forum

Again, there's possibly going to be a Second Yugoslav War in the 1990s where the Slovenes, Bosniaks, and Kosovars try and succeed at making a break for it.
But the potential for accidental border crossings provided by an utterly confusing border is too immense!

Really, just copy and paste BiH on this map into your map; this one has the border between the Bosniak-Croat Federation and the Republika Srspka in gray, so just make it white to show that it's a national border and color the things on both sides.

That's not set in stone, though, and regardless it doesn't have to be universal. It might be perfectly alive in Yugoslavia, what with the country's weak monarchy and perpetual ethnic tension. Hell, the CSA might have some sort of briefly-prominent fascist movement after losing to Japan, especially because the peace lobby was selling reconciliation as the Japanese prepared for war.

1. Fair enough; but I'd suggest moving the Second Yugoslav War up; the Slovenes aren't going to sit for a half-century before exploding.
2. OK, I can do that. (Map and the crossings)
3. There Can Be No Reconciliation Until The Confederate Imperialists Return Hawaii.

1. I might make it longer, beginning it in the 1980s, just to make it all the more horrible.
2. Ok.
3. Sure, sure, just remember that you get to go down in infamy as the aggressor who provoked the global conflict now.

[Unicario]

You could just make Bosnia a massive jigsaw puzzle, such as having a part of Sarajevo be inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia inside Croatia inside Serbia...

It will put the madness that is the OTL exclave and enclaves on the Indian-Bangladeshi border to shame.

/kick Luziyca I need a way to devoice you on the forum

1. Fair enough; but I'd suggest moving the Second Yugoslav War up; the Slovenes aren't going to sit for a half-century before exploding.
2. OK, I can do that. (Map and the crossings)
3. There Can Be No Reconciliation Until The Confederate Imperialists Return Hawaii.

1. I might make it longer, beginning it in the 1980s, just to make it all the more horrible.
2. Ok.
3. Sure, sure, just remember that you get to go down in infamy as the aggressor who provoked the global conflict now.

Actually, the Sino-Japanese War isn't what starts WW2. The Quadruple Entente attack on Germany and her allies sparks WW2.

[Qianrong]

/kick Luziyca I need a way to devoice you on the forum

1. I might make it longer, beginning it in the 1980s, just to make it all the more horrible.
2. Ok.
3. Sure, sure, just remember that you get to go down in infamy as the aggressor who provoked the global conflict now.

Actually, the Sino-Japanese War isn't what starts WW2. The Quadruple Entente attack on Germany and her allies sparks WW2.

Fine, fine. The aggressor who provoked the Pacific front of the global conflict. Happy now?

[Qianrong]

(a few tweaks to reflect retcons)

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Joseph Blackburn, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We welcome change and brotherhood, for we believe that freedom and brotherhood go together, that the advance of world peace can only strengthen the cause of human liberty. There is one sign the German government can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Chancellor Kohl, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Holy Roman Empire and its allies of Hungary and Denmark, if you seek reconciliation, come here to this gate. Chancellor Kohl, open this gate. Chancellor Kohl, tear down this wall!

As I looked out a moment ago from the town hall, looking towards Bratislava just across the Iron Curtain, I noticed words crudely spray-painted upon the wall, perhaps by a young German. It said, 'This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.' Yes, across Central Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand fraternity; it cannot withstand truth. This wall cannot withstand freedom."
- Ronald Reagan, 1987, speaking in the German town of Kittsee, near the Czechoslovak border

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

"We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
- Preamble to the CS Constitution, ratified 1834

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
-Oleksandr Kostiuk, 1903

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
-Stanislav Pavlenko

"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament."
-Grigori Petrovsky, on western governments

"It is about time this "Axis of Evil" is dealt a good blow and is put back into their place."
-Horatius Agrioli, 1894

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

"Every anarchist is a baffled dictator."
-Benito Mussolini, 1901

"The socialist movement in Venezuela and the feeling of Pan-Latin-Americanism are inseparable."
-Che Guevara

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end."
-Antoni Belinsky, to Stanislav Pavlenko on the Balkan Wars.

"Saying you do not believe in the use of force is like saying you do not believe in gravity."
-Antoni Belinsky, 1891

"It is easy to romanticize poverty, to see poor people as inherently lacking agency and will. It is easy to strip them of human dignity, to reduce them to objects of pity. This has never been clearer than in the view of Africa from the American media, in which we are shown poverty and conflicts without any context."

"I am the hero of Africa."
-His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Amadi Nkruma, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the Roman Empire in Africa in General and Chad in Particular

"The blood of the fascists shall water the gardens of Japan, and we shall forever relish in their defeat, for they shall not hold up against the triumph of the people."
- Empress Akane, 1979

"The final solution to the infidel question is extermination. I shall rid the world of all others but Indonesian Muslims. Every nation shall burn under the mighty boots of Indonesia, and we shall rid the world of Japan, of China, of Britain, of Germany and of the Confederacy, the Islamic World shall be enlightened under one house!"
- Admiral Wahyu of Indonesia, 1958

"Today is truly a day of victory. A victory for not only the Russian people but a victory in the name of peace at last. I only wish Trotsky and Belinsky had lived to see this."
-Vladimir Lenin giving a speech in Moscow after the overthrow of the Republic by the communists, 1991.

"There is no such thing as the nation. There is only humanity. And if we do not come to understand this soon, then there will be no nations, because there will be no humanity."
- Confederate President Adlai Stevenson I, in 1906

"Whatever our beliefs, we must cherish three things above all: cooperation, tolerance, and righteousness. For these three values, there is no substitute."
- Hayim ben Tziyon, the Zionist Papers

"I want there to be two mottoes on this coat of arms you have given to me: above the shield, the words veritas vos liberabit, the truth will set you free, and below the shield, the words calamus gladio fortior, the pen is mightier than the sword. These are the words that I have lived by, and I hope those who come after me shall live by them as well."
- Georg von Licht, after being told that the Emperor of Germany was allowing the von Licht family a coat of arms, 1837

"Do you hear the people sing, singing the song of angry men, it is the music of a nation that will never slumber again,
When the beating of our hearts echoes the roaring of the drums,
A nation shall be reborn when tomorrow comes!"
- Rallying cry of the Juche rebels, 1979, taken from Die Elenden's play form.

"I have graduated from the Georg von Licht School of Book-Writing."
- Rumite author Ludwig Eichemann, following the success of his book Along the Ehre

"Here, where several hundred Japanese and American sailors gave their lives not once but twice, where an island was ravaged by war, and the Great War began in the Pacific, we commemorate the peace that has endured now for fifty years, and it is a blessing from whichever God you praise, that we have endured. The Confederacy and Japan should be brothers, not enemies."
- Emperor Kyasarin's speech at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941, the 50th Anniversary of the Day of Infamy.

"The French Republic was not evil, nor was it a mistake, nor was it decadent or corrupt. It was ran by incompetence, and it will never return, for it has never worked for the French people."
- Ferdinand Foch, 1898

"Before us is none but Brennus, enemy of Rome, and destroyer of civilization. It is this brute and others like him that sought to drive this world back into the dark ages of eternal war. I make no further statement today other than 'Non auro, sed ferro, recuperanda est patria'."
-Benito Mussolini, at the execution of Gaius leFevre

"Jefferson told us of the door of liberty; Washington set out to find it; Scott showed us to it; Lee unlocked it; Blackburn opened it; Kennedy led us through."
- Confederate President Lyndon B. Johnson, 1964

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
- excerpt from the 1st Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson

"Peace, Land and Bread is our absolute goal, for every man, woman and child in France."
- Ferdinand Foch, December 25, 1897

"But life has a way of reminding you of big things through small incidents. Once, back before the Reconciliation, and during my time as Foreign Minister in the 1940s, I attended a summit in Washington D.C. I decided to break off from the entourage one afternoon to visit the shops near the Mall, where the great statues to the Martyred and Victorious Fathers stand.

Even though our visit was a surprise, every American there immediately recognized us, and called out my name and reached for my hand. I was just about swept away by the warmth - you could almost feel the possibilities in all that joy. But within seconds, an FBI detail pushed their way toward me and began pushing and shoving the people in the crowd. It was an interesting moment. It reminded me that while the man on the street in the Confederate States had yearned for peace and brotherhood, the Government was still - and those who run it were still reluctant to reach out their hand - and that means we and they view such issues as freedom and human rights very differently, and that still has not changed now, in 1975. 'Keep Up Our Guard', is something we must practice."
- Kim Il-sung's final address to Japan as PM, 1975

"Stop sending people to kill me! We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle... If you don't stop sending killers, I'll go down to Moscow myself and make you feel regret for even being born."
-Antoni Belinsky to Alexander Kerensky, 1954

"I do not do things part-way. I finish every job handed before me, and believe me, I shall do my job well."
- Empress Kyasarin of Japan to her Geisha trainer, 1925

"The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win... hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Her Majesty proved that a monarch must be responsible to it's people, and must sacrifice their own luxuries and lavish life so that democracy may not perish."
- Unknown soldier in the Imperial Japanese Army, c. 1963

"I believe our old enemy, Joseph Blackburn, said it best. I paraphrase. Only through sacrifice and dedication can we ensure that any nation dedicated to democracy may long endure, that democracy shall never perish from this earth."
- Empress Catherine, 1964

"I remember a poetic moment. After we took the ruins of Batavia, I remember Empress Catherine hoisting the flag of Japan over the parliamentary house. The sight was magnanimous, if I may say so. The photo of the sun behind her was what I saw, and it was even stronger in person, than it was on a photograph. The crowd swelled into choruses of Umi Yukaba, but she silenced them and said, 'This is your victory, my soldiers. This was your triumph.'... all of us were floored at that. She was a hero, but she did not accept such honors, she gave that to her soldiers."
- Lt. Junichi Smith, recalling the Fall of Batavia in his memoirs.

"If I die for the Empire, it will not be a regret to me, for I know that I have died so that my daughters may be free, and my ancestor's spirits may rest peacefully. I do not fear death -- I shall conquer it."
- Empress Catherine on the eve of the Battle of Batavia

"It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small."
- Neil Armstrong, Canadian astronaut and first man on the moon

"You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, 'Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
- Edgar Mitchell, Confederate astronaut

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there- on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
- Japanese astronomer Carl Sagan, referencing a photograph taken by the CSA's Voyager 1 probe

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"We must always remember that William Walker and George Wallace were Confederates. But we must never forget that Cesar Chavez and Martin Luther King were Confederates too."
- Confederate President Loretta Lynch, 2011

[Shrillland]

Well, we went a little further than I expected...

[Ruridova]

YOUTUBE STARS ATL

So, yeah, just a random list of people who are famous because of YouTube and where they come from ATL. Also a few Viners who have YouTube channels, because why not.

YouTube is a prominent video-sharing website founded by

YouTube Channel (RL name or names) - ATL country - OTL birthplace - explanation
MarkiplierGAME (Mark Fischbach) - Canada - Honolulu, USA - while Fischbach was born in Hawaii, this is because his father was stationed there as a US soldier; as far as I can tell, he would have been born in Cincinnati otherwise, which is Canadian ATL
Jacksepticeye (Sean McLoughlin) - Ireland - ???, Ireland - no real changes here
PewDiePie (Felix Kjellberg) - Sweden - Gothenburg, Sweden - no real changes here
JonTron (Jon Jafari) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Egoraptor (Arin Hansen) - Confederacy - West Palm Beach, USA - Florida is Confederate ATL
KassemG (Kassem Gharaibeh) - Rum - ???, Jordan - Jordan is Rumite ATL
NicePeter (Peter Shukoff) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
EpicLloyd (Lloyd Ahlquist) - Canada - Staten Island, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
Schmoyoho (Michael, Andrew, Evan, and Sarah Gregory) - Japan - Brooklyn, USA - Long Island is Japanese ATL
CinnamonToastKen (Kenneth Morrison) - Confederacy - ???, USA - Mississippi is Confederate ATL
HolaSoyGerman (German Garmienda) - Tawantinsuyu - ???, Chile - Chile is Tawantinsuyu ATL
Smosh (Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla) - Confederacy - Carmichael, USA and Sacramento, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Nigahiga (Ryan Higa) - Japan - Hilo, USA - Hawaii is Japanese ATL
Jenna Marbles (Jenna Mourey) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
KSIolajideBT (Olajide Olatunji) - Great Britain - Watford, Great Britain - no real changes here
VanossGaming (Evan Fong) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
ShaneDawsonTV (Shane Dawson) - Confederacy - Long Beach, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Bucknews (Michael Buckley) - Canada - Wallingford, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
JoeyGraceffa (Joey Graceffa) - Canada - Marlborough, USA - Massachusetts is Canadian ATL
The Young Turks (Cenk Uygur) - Rum - Istanbul, Turkey - no real changes here
BachelorsPadTV/KingBach (Andrew Bachelor) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
MirandaSings (Colleen Evans) - Confederacy - Long Beach, CSA - California is Confederate ATL
CaseyNiestat (Casey Niestat) - Canada - New London, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
DeStorm (DeStorm Powers) - Confederacy - Arlington, USA - Virginia is Confederate ATL
TomSka (Thomas Ridgewell) - Great Britain - Essex, Great Britain - no real changes here
Alphacat (Iman Crosson) - Confederacy - Louisville, USA - Kentucky is Confederate ATL
Vlogbrothers/CrashCourse (John and Hank Green) - oh lord I have no clue - Indianapolis, USA and Birmingham, USA - John was born in ATL Canada, Hank was born in ATL Confederacy, and I have no clue if their parents would be Confederate or Canadian ATL and please Shrill just let me take them
CaptainSparkelz (Jordan Maron) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
KevJumba (Kevin Wu) - Confederacy - Houston, USA - Texas in Confederate ATL
Fred (Lucas Cruikshank) - Canada - Columbus, USA - Nebraska is Canadian ATL
ItsRucka/Rucka Rucka Ali (???) - Canada - Troy, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
ConnorFranta (Connor Franta) - Canada - ???, USA - Wisconsin is Canadian ATL
Rebecca (Rebecca Black) - Confederacy - Irvine, USA - California is Confederate ATL
PSY (Park Jae-sang) - Korea - Seoul, South Korea - Korea is unified ATL
Rhaul (Justin Bieber) - Canada - London, Canada - no real changes here
Tay Zonday - Adam Bahner - Canada - Minneapolis, USA - Minnesota is Canadian ATL
Tyler Oakley (Matthew Tyler Oakley) - Canada - Jackson, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
FinalCutKing (Zach King) - Canada - Portland, USA - Oregon is Canadian ATL
Yamimash (Aaron Ash) - Great Britain - ???, Great Britain - no real changes here

[Shrillland]

YOUTUBE STARS ATL

So, yeah, just a random list of people who are famous because of YouTube and where they come from ATL. Also a few Viners who have YouTube channels, because why not.

YouTube is a prominent video-sharing website founded by

YouTube Channel (RL name or names) - ATL country - OTL birthplace - explanation
MarkiplierGAME (Mark Fischbach) - Canada - Honolulu, USA - while Fischbach was born in Hawaii, this is because his father was stationed there as a US soldier; as far as I can tell, he would have been born in Cincinnati otherwise, which is Canadian ATL
Jacksepticeye (Sean McLoughlin) - Ireland - ???, Ireland - no real changes here
PewDiePie (Felix Kjellberg) - Sweden - Gothenburg, Sweden - no real changes here
JonTron (Jon Jafari) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Egoraptor (Arin Hansen) - Confederacy - West Palm Beach, USA - Florida is Confederate ATL
KassemG (Kassem Gharaibeh) - Rum - ???, Jordan - Jordan is Rumite ATL
NicePeter (Peter Shukoff) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
EpicLloyd (Lloyd Ahlquist) - Canada - Staten Island, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
Schmoyoho (Michael, Andrew, Evan, and Sarah Gregory) - Japan - Brooklyn, USA - Long Island is Japanese ATL
CinnamonToastKen (Kenneth Morrison) - Confederacy - ???, USA - Mississippi is Confederate ATL
HolaSoyGerman (German Garmienda) - Tawantinsuyu - ???, Chile - Chile is Tawantinsuyu ATL
Smosh (Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla) - Confederacy - Carmichael, USA and Sacramento, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Nigahiga (Ryan Higa) - Japan - Hilo, USA - Hawaii is Japanese ATL
Jenna Marbles (Jenna Mourey) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
KSIolajideBT (Olajide Olatunji) - Great Britain - Watford, Great Britain - no real changes here
VanossGaming (Evan Fong) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
ShaneDawsonTV (Shane Dawson) - Confederacy - Long Beach, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Bucknews (Michael Buckley) - Canada - Wallingford, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
JoeyGraceffa (Joey Graceffa) - Canada - Marlborough, USA - Massachusetts is Canadian ATL
The Young Turks (Cenk Uygur) - Rum - Istanbul, Turkey - no real changes here
BachelorsPadTV/KingBach (Andrew Bachelor) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
MirandaSings (Colleen Evans) - Confederacy - Long Beach, CSA - California is Confederate ATL
CaseyNiestat (Casey Niestat) - Canada - New London, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
DeStorm (DeStorm Powers) - Confederacy - Arlington, USA - Virginia is Confederate ATL
TomSka (Thomas Ridgewell) - Great Britain - Essex, Great Britain - no real changes here
Alphacat (Iman Crosson) - Confederacy - Louisville, USA - Kentucky is Confederate ATL
Vlogbrothers/CrashCourse (John and Hank Green) - oh lord I have no clue - Indianapolis, USA and Birmingham, USA - John was born in ATL Canada, Hank was born in ATL Confederacy, and I have no clue if their parents would be Confederate or Canadian ATL and please Shrill just let me take them
CaptainSparkelz (Jordan Maron) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
KevJumba (Kevin Wu) - Confederacy - Houston, USA - Texas in Confederate ATL
Fred (Lucas Cruikshank) - Canada - Columbus, USA - Nebraska is Canadian ATL
ItsRucka/Rucka Rucka Ali (???) - Canada - Troy, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
ConnorFranta (Connor Franta) - Canada - ???, USA - Wisconsin is Canadian ATL
Rebecca (Rebecca Black) - Confederacy - Irvine, USA - California is Confederate ATL
PSY (Park Jae-sang) - Korea - Seoul, South Korea - Korea is unified ATL
Rhaul (Justin Bieber) - Canada - London, Canada - no real changes here
Tay Zonday - Adam Bahner - Canada - Minneapolis, USA - Minnesota is Canadian ATL
Tyler Oakley (Matthew Tyler Oakley) - Canada - Jackson, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
FinalCutKing (Zach King) - Canada - Portland, USA - Oregon is Canadian ATL
Yamimash (Aaron Ash) - Great Britain - ???, Great Britain - no real changes here

You're in luck, their parents are ATL Confederates. And you also get Indy Neidell of It's History and The Great War too.

Now, who controls the south seas island, (Tonga, Nauru, etc.,)? I think it's Japan, but I'm not sure, since this is about the time that the Nauru phosphate deposits were found and the Cook Islands were made part of New Zealand.

[Qianrong]

YOUTUBE STARS ATL

So, yeah, just a random list of people who are famous because of YouTube and where they come from ATL. Also a few Viners who have YouTube channels, because why not.

YouTube is a prominent video-sharing website founded by

YouTube Channel (RL name or names) - ATL country - OTL birthplace - explanation
MarkiplierGAME (Mark Fischbach) - Canada - Honolulu, USA - while Fischbach was born in Hawaii, this is because his father was stationed there as a US soldier; as far as I can tell, he would have been born in Cincinnati otherwise, which is Canadian ATL
Jacksepticeye (Sean McLoughlin) - Ireland - ???, Ireland - no real changes here
PewDiePie (Felix Kjellberg) - Sweden - Gothenburg, Sweden - no real changes here
JonTron (Jon Jafari) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Egoraptor (Arin Hansen) - Confederacy - West Palm Beach, USA - Florida is Confederate ATL
KassemG (Kassem Gharaibeh) - Rum - ???, Jordan - Jordan is Rumite ATL
NicePeter (Peter Shukoff) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
EpicLloyd (Lloyd Ahlquist) - Canada - Staten Island, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
Schmoyoho (Michael, Andrew, Evan, and Sarah Gregory) - Japan - Brooklyn, USA - Long Island is Japanese ATL
CinnamonToastKen (Kenneth Morrison) - Confederacy - ???, USA - Mississippi is Confederate ATL
HolaSoyGerman (German Garmienda) - Tawantinsuyu - ???, Chile - Chile is Tawantinsuyu ATL
Smosh (Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla) - Confederacy - Carmichael, USA and Sacramento, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Nigahiga (Ryan Higa) - Japan - Hilo, USA - Hawaii is Japanese ATL
Jenna Marbles (Jenna Mourey) - Canada - Rochester, USA - New York is Canadian ATL
KSIolajideBT (Olajide Olatunji) - Great Britain - Watford, Great Britain - no real changes here
VanossGaming (Evan Fong) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
ShaneDawsonTV (Shane Dawson) - Confederacy - Long Beach, USA - California is Confederate ATL
Bucknews (Michael Buckley) - Canada - Wallingford, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
JoeyGraceffa (Joey Graceffa) - Canada - Marlborough, USA - Massachusetts is Canadian ATL
The Young Turks (Cenk Uygur) - Rum - Istanbul, Turkey - no real changes here
BachelorsPadTV/KingBach (Andrew Bachelor) - Canada - Toronto, Canada - no real changes here
MirandaSings (Colleen Evans) - Confederacy - Long Beach, CSA - California is Confederate ATL
CaseyNiestat (Casey Niestat) - Canada - New London, USA - Connecticut is Canadian ATL
DeStorm (DeStorm Powers) - Confederacy - Arlington, USA - Virginia is Confederate ATL
TomSka (Thomas Ridgewell) - Great Britain - Essex, Great Britain - no real changes here
Alphacat (Iman Crosson) - Confederacy - Louisville, USA - Kentucky is Confederate ATL
Vlogbrothers/CrashCourse (John and Hank Green) - oh lord I have no clue - Indianapolis, USA and Birmingham, USA - John was born in ATL Canada, Hank was born in ATL Confederacy, and I have no clue if their parents would be Confederate or Canadian ATL and please Shrill just let me take them
CaptainSparkelz (Jordan Maron) - Confederacy - Los Angeles, USA - California is Confederate ATL
KevJumba (Kevin Wu) - Confederacy - Houston, USA - Texas in Confederate ATL
Fred (Lucas Cruikshank) - Canada - Columbus, USA - Nebraska is Canadian ATL
ItsRucka/Rucka Rucka Ali (???) - Canada - Troy, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
ConnorFranta (Connor Franta) - Canada - ???, USA - Wisconsin is Canadian ATL
Rebecca (Rebecca Black) - Confederacy - Irvine, USA - California is Confederate ATL
PSY (Park Jae-sang) - Korea - Seoul, South Korea - Korea is unified ATL
Rhaul (Justin Bieber) - Canada - London, Canada - no real changes here
Tay Zonday - Adam Bahner - Canada - Minneapolis, USA - Minnesota is Canadian ATL
Tyler Oakley (Matthew Tyler Oakley) - Canada - Jackson, USA - Michigan is Canadian ATL
FinalCutKing (Zach King) - Canada - Portland, USA - Oregon is Canadian ATL
Yamimash (Aaron Ash) - Great Britain - ???, Great Britain - no real changes here

You're in luck, their parents are ATL Confederates. And you also get Indy Neidell of It's History and The Great War too.

Now, who controls the south seas island, (Tonga, Nauru, etc.,)? I think it's Japan, but I'm not sure, since this is about the time that the Nauru phosphate deposits were found and the Cook Islands were made part of New Zealand.

A mixture of Germany, Britain, and Japan, though I can't say which islands are controlled by which.

[Shrillland]

And as far as I know, Ohio, Illinois and all the states of former Deseret are still Confederate territory. I didn't think that had been changed, nor do I especially wish for changes in that regard. It would take me too long to rewrite all of Canada's history to include them since I would have different Prime Ministers and different ways to governing. I couldn't have passed the Gold Standard Act with those territories for example.

[Qianrong]

And as far as I know, Ohio, Illinois and all the states of former Deseret are still Confederate territory. I didn't think that had been changed, nor do I especially wish for changes in that regard. It would take me too long to rewrite all of Canada's history to include them since I would have different Prime Ministers and different ways to governing. I couldn't have passed the Gold Standard Act with those territories for example.

Utah/Colorado is Confederate, but the Midwest- including Illinois and Ohio- was given to Canada as part of the retconning.

[Unicario]

Now, who controls the south seas island, (Tonga, Nauru, etc.,)? I think it's Japan, but I'm not sure, since this is about the time that the Nauru phosphate deposits were found and the Cook Islands were made part of New Zealand.

A mixture of Germany, Britain, and Japan, though I can't say which islands are controlled by which.[/quote]

Japan controls the overwhelming majority of those islands. The closer you get to Australia, New Zealand and New Guinea, the less likely for Japan to own it.

Nauru would be Japanese.
Tonga would NOT be Japanese.

Japan's influence over the Pacific Islands is weaker once you get somewhere near Australia and New Zealand. Japan controls Enetewiak, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, (post-1919, Hawaii), et al.

But does not control Fiji, Tonga, New Caledonia, etc.

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And as far as I know, Ohio, Illinois and all the states of former Deseret are still Confederate territory. I didn't think that had been changed, nor do I especially wish for changes in that regard. It would take me too long to rewrite all of Canada's history to include them since I would have different Prime Ministers and different ways to governing. I couldn't have passed the Gold Standard Act with those territories for example.

Canada did take most of the states outside the historical Confederate States. The Gold Standard Act could've still been passed, but it would've been under slightly different circumstances.

[Unicario]

"...the Venezuelans are very good at this sort of thing. I'm speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Ray-Bans, wearing a fake Armani jacket, carrying a fake Louis Vuitton bag, in which we find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if we consult my fake Omega watch, we see that it's 2:35, probably, which means that it's time to pop into the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee. It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate very well into Venezuelan Spanish."
- Jeremy Clarkson, host of the British TV show Top Gear

"If we were to have a war between the German Empire and Canada, I think France would probably win."
- Takeshi Kitano on Comedy Hour during the 2014 Czechoslovak War

"Yesterday, December Seventh, 1891, a date which will live in infamy, the Empire of Japan was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Confederate States of America. We will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us Meiji..."
- Emperor Alexander I addressing an emergency meeting of the Japanese Senate on December 8, 1891.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Incorrectly attributed to Joseph Blackburn, President of the CSA on December 8, 1891, real source unknown.

"You cannot invade the Japanese mainland. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Unknown Confederate military commander on Okinawa, 1892

"Liberty secured by submission to foreign will is not liberty at all."
- Kim Il-sung, 1964

"We welcome change and brotherhood, for we believe that freedom and brotherhood go together, that the advance of world peace can only strengthen the cause of human liberty. There is one sign the German government can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Chancellor Kohl, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Holy Roman Empire and its allies of Hungary and Denmark, if you seek reconciliation, come here to this gate. Chancellor Kohl, open this gate. Chancellor Kohl, tear down this wall!

As I looked out a moment ago from the town hall, looking towards Bratislava just across the Iron Curtain, I noticed words crudely spray-painted upon the wall, perhaps by a young German. It said, 'This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.' Yes, across Central Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand fraternity; it cannot withstand truth. This wall cannot withstand freedom."
- Ronald Reagan, 1987, speaking in the German town of Kittsee, near the Czechoslovak border

"We the People of the Empire of Japan, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans, of all creeds, races, colors and faiths are equal, and are invested by their creator with the capacity to great good, and great evil, and the capacity to know right from wrong, therefore their sovereign right to personal liberties shall never be infringed upon..."
- Preface to the Japanese Constitution, ratified 1789

"We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
- Preamble to the CS Constitution, ratified 1834

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
-Oleksandr Kostiuk, 1903

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
-Stanislav Pavlenko

"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament."
-Grigori Petrovsky, on western governments

"It is about time this "Axis of Evil" is dealt a good blow and is put back into their place."
-Horatius Agrioli, 1894

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty."

"Every anarchist is a baffled dictator."
-Benito Mussolini, 1901

"The socialist movement in Venezuela and the feeling of Pan-Latin-Americanism are inseparable."
-Che Guevara

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end."
-Antoni Belinsky, to Stanislav Pavlenko on the Balkan Wars.

"Saying you do not believe in the use of force is like saying you do not believe in gravity."
-Antoni Belinsky, 1891

"It is easy to romanticize poverty, to see poor people as inherently lacking agency and will. It is easy to strip them of human dignity, to reduce them to objects of pity. This has never been clearer than in the view of Africa from the American media, in which we are shown poverty and conflicts without any context."

"I am the hero of Africa."
-His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Amadi Nkruma, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the Roman Empire in Africa in General and Chad in Particular

"The final solution to the infidel question is extermination. I shall rid the world of all others but Indonesian Muslims. Every nation shall burn under the mighty boots of Indonesia, and we shall rid the world of Japan, of China, of Britain, of Germany and of the Confederacy, the Islamic World shall be enlightened under one house!"
- Admiral Wahyu of Indonesia, 1958

"Today is truly a day of victory. A victory for not only the Russian people but a victory in the name of peace at last. I only wish Trotsky and Belinsky had lived to see this."
-Vladimir Lenin giving a speech in Moscow after the overthrow of the Republic by the communists, 1991.

"There is no such thing as the nation. There is only humanity. And if we do not come to understand this soon, then there will be no nations, because there will be no humanity."
- Confederate President Adlai Stevenson I, in 1906

"Whatever our beliefs, we must cherish three things above all: cooperation, tolerance, and righteousness. For these three values, there is no substitute."
- Hayim ben Tziyon, the Zionist Papers

"I want there to be two mottoes on this coat of arms you have given to me: above the shield, the words veritas vos liberabit, the truth will set you free, and below the shield, the words calamus gladio fortior, the pen is mightier than the sword. These are the words that I have lived by, and I hope those who come after me shall live by them as well."
- Georg von Licht, after being told that the Emperor of Germany was allowing the von Licht family a coat of arms, 1837

Revere the Empress, Expel The Barbarians!
- Rallying cry of the Juche rebels, 1979

"I have graduated from the Georg von Licht School of Book-Writing."
- Rumite author Ludwig Eichemann, following the success of his book Along the Ehre

"The French Republic was not evil, nor was it a mistake, nor was it decadent or corrupt. It was ran by incompetence, and it will never return, for it has never worked for the French people."
- Ferdinand Foch, 1898

"Before us is none but Brennus, enemy of Rome, and destroyer of civilization. It is this brute and others like him that sought to drive this world back into the dark ages of eternal war. I make no further statement today other than 'Non auro, sed ferro, recuperanda est patria'."
-Benito Mussolini, at the execution of Gaius leFevre

"Jefferson told us of the door of liberty; Washington set out to find it; Scott showed us to it; Lee unlocked it; Blackburn opened it; Kennedy led us through."
- Confederate President Lyndon B. Johnson, 1964

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
- excerpt from the 1st Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson

"Peace, Land and Bread is our absolute goal, for every man, woman and child in France."
- Ferdinand Foch, December 25, 1897

"But life has a way of reminding you of big things through small incidents. Once, back before the Reconciliation, and during my time as Foreign Minister in the 1940s, I attended a summit in Washington D.C. I decided to break off from the entourage one afternoon to visit the shops near the Mall, where the great statues to the Martyred and Victorious Fathers stand.

Even though our visit was a surprise, every American there immediately recognized us, and called out my name and reached for my hand. I was just about swept away by the warmth - you could almost feel the possibilities in all that joy. But within seconds, an FBI detail pushed their way toward me and began pushing and shoving the people in the crowd. It was an interesting moment. It reminded me that while the man on the street in the Confederate States had yearned for peace and brotherhood, the Government was still - and those who run it were still reluctant to reach out their hand - and that means we and they view such issues as freedom and human rights very differently, and that still has not changed now, in 1975. 'Keep Up Our Guard', is something we must practice."
- Sakura Kamakura's final address to Japan as PM, 1975

"Stop sending people to kill me! We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle... If you don't stop sending killers, I'll go down to Moscow myself and make you feel regret for even being born."
-Antoni Belinsky to Alexander Kerensky, 1954

"I do not do things part-way. I finish every job handed before me, and believe me, I shall do my job well."
- Empress Kyasarin of Japan to her Geisha trainer, 1925

"The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win... hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Her Majesty proved that a monarch must be responsible to it's people, and must sacrifice their own luxuries and lavish life so that democracy may not perish."
- Unknown soldier in the Imperial Japanese Army, c. 1963

"I believe our old enemy, Joseph Blackburn, said it best. I paraphrase. Only through sacrifice and dedication can we ensure that any nation dedicated to democracy may long endure, that democracy shall never perish from this earth."
- Empress Catherine, 1964

"I remember a poetic moment. After we took the ruins of Batavia, I remember Empress Catherine hoisting the flag of Japan over the parliamentary house. The sight was magnanimous, if I may say so. The photo of the sun behind her was what I saw, and it was even stronger in person, than it was on a photograph. The crowd swelled into choruses of Umi Yukaba, but she silenced them and said, 'This is your victory, my soldiers. This was your triumph.'... all of us were floored at that. She was a hero, but she did not accept such honors, she gave that to her soldiers."
- Lt. Junichi Smith, recalling the Fall of Batavia in his memoirs.

"If I die for the Empire, it will not be a regret to me, for I know that I have died so that my daughters may be free, and my ancestor's spirits may rest peacefully. I do not fear death -- I shall conquer it."
- Empress Catherine on the eve of the Battle of Batavia

"It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small."
- Neil Armstrong, Canadian astronaut and first man on the moon

"You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, 'Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
- Edgar Mitchell, Confederate astronaut

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there- on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
- Japanese astronomer Carl Sagan, referencing a photograph taken by the CSA's Voyager 1 probe

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"We must always remember that William Walker and George Wallace were Confederates. But we must never forget that Cesar Chavez and Martin Luther King were Confederates too."
- Confederate President Loretta Lynch, 2011

[Luziyca]

Well, we went a little further than I expected...

We did, ja.

Ah well. When the world looks back on the ultimate cause of this war, they may blame Plan B.

China should've taken a Plan B and abort that plan.

[Shrillland]

And as far as I know, Ohio, Illinois and all the states of former Deseret are still Confederate territory. I didn't think that had been changed, nor do I especially wish for changes in that regard. It would take me too long to rewrite all of Canada's history to include them since I would have different Prime Ministers and different ways to governing. I couldn't have passed the Gold Standard Act with those territories for example.

Utah/Colorado is Confederate, but the Midwest- including Illinois and Ohio- was given to Canada as part of the retconning.

Well, you can keep them. I don't want them since it would mean too many changes to what I've already done, I would have to rewrite too many things. Noi tall the yway back, of coure, but a few of the recent events would've gone quite differently.

Canada did take most of the states outside the historical Confederate States. The Gold Standard Act could've still been passed, but it would've been under slightly different circumstances.

Not really. A Canadian Illinois means a Canadian William Jennings Bryan, who would've been deputy prime minister and threatened to break the Liberals in two if they didn't achieve bimetalism.

[Qianrong]

Utah/Colorado is Confederate, but the Midwest- including Illinois and Ohio- was given to Canada as part of the retconning.

Well, you can keep them. I don't want them since it would mean too many changes to what I've already done, I would have to rewrite too many things. Not all the way back, of course, but a few of the recent events would've gone quite differently.

I don't really feel like they belong in the Confederacy, though.

[Shrillland]

Well, you can keep them. I don't want them since it would mean too many changes to what I've already done, I would have to rewrite too many things. Not all the way back, of course, but a few of the recent events would've gone quite differently.

I don't really feel like they belong in the Confederacy, though.

Nonetheless, they are part of it. It may have escaped everyone's notice, but I haven't mentioned their presence in any of my recent posts. Besides, if you lose them, you're losing a good chunk of your industry. I don't need three major steel centres, I already have Pennsylvania and Ontario. So I insist that you keep them.

[Unicario]

What if they're a third nation, formed by groups who don't want to associate with the Canadian monarchy or the Confederates?

[Shrillland]

What if they're a third nation, formed by groups who don't want to associate with the Canadian monarchy or the Confederates?

Eh, that would just be absurd. If he insists, I'll take it, but it'll mean re-writing my PM list and changing a few of my recent posts. Nothing that would affect foreign policy, just a few tweaks concerning the election, the prohibition vote and the like, and the possible formation of the CCF earlier that OTL, though that isn't a given yet.

[Unicario]

What if they're a third nation, formed by groups who don't want to associate with the Canadian monarchy or the Confederates?

Eh, that would just be absurd. If he insists, I'll take it, but it'll mean re-writing my PM list and changing a few of my recent posts. Nothing that would affect foreign policy, just a few tweaks concerning the election, the prohibition vote and the like, and the possible formation of the CCF earlier that OTL, though that isn't a given yet.

Not entirely absurd, actually. Could be an American Soviet formed by leftists, or a libertarian republic, or a corporatocracy...

[Qianrong]

I don't really feel like they belong in the Confederacy, though.

Nonetheless, they are part of it. It may have escaped everyone's notice, but I haven't mentioned their presence in any of my recent posts. Besides, if you lose them, you're losing a good chunk of your industry. I don't need three major steel centres, I already have Pennsylvania and Ontario. So I insist that you keep them.

I mean, the CSA controlling the Midwest doesn't make much sense. It doesn't look pretty geographically, they don't fit in with the largely agricultural eastern CSA(the CSA's industrial regions are in OTL northern Mexico and the West), etc.

To be brutally honest, the main reason they were ever part of the CSA to begin with was personal, since my families has ties to Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

[Shrillland]

Nonetheless, they are part of it. It may have escaped everyone's notice, but I haven't mentioned their presence in any of my recent posts. Besides, if you lose them, you're losing a good chunk of your industry. I don't need three major steel centres, I already have Pennsylvania and Ontario. So I insist that you keep them.

I mean, the CSA controlling the Midwest doesn't make much sense. It doesn't look pretty geographically, they don't fit in with the largely agricultural eastern CSA(the CSA's industrial regions are in OTL northern Mexico and the West), etc.

To be brutally honest, the main reason they were ever part of the CSA to begin with was personal, since my families has ties to Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

That was why I wanted them originally since I'm from Illinois myself...ah, all right. I'll take them. It'll mean a few changes but nothing too intense.

[Unicario]

I mean, the CSA controlling the Midwest doesn't make much sense. It doesn't look pretty geographically, they don't fit in with the largely agricultural eastern CSA(the CSA's industrial regions are in OTL northern Mexico and the West), etc.

To be brutally honest, the main reason they were ever part of the CSA to begin with was personal, since my families has ties to Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

That was why I wanted them originally since I'm from Illinois myself...ah, all right. I'll take them. It'll mean a few changes but nothing too intense.

Wicked. ^^

[Ruridova]

The States of the Confederacy
(List of states determined using pre-retcon information adapted to post-retcon situation.)

The Confederate States of America is subdivided into twenty-seven federal subdivisions, generally known as "states". Officially, three states are called commonwealths, one a republic, and one a district, with one having no preceding word at all and the remaining twenty-one known officially as states; however, the differences are purely cosmetic and in common parlance all twenty-seven are referred to as states.

STATE of ALABAMA

Capital: Montgomery
Largest City: Birmingham
Demonym: Alabamian
Nickname: The Yellowhammer State
Mottoes: Independent Now and Forever
Here We Rest
Governor: Robert Bentley

STATE of ARIZONA

Capital: Tucson
Largest City: Tucson
Demonym: Arizonan
Nickname: The Copper State
Mottoes: Ditat Deus (God enriches)
Governor: Terry Goddard

STATE of ARKANSAS

Capital: Little Rock
Largest City: Little Rock
Demonym: Arkansan
Nickname: The Natural State
Mottoes: Regnat populus (The people rule)
Audemus jura nostra defendere (We dare defend our rights)
Governor: Asa Hutchinson

STATE of the BAHAMAS

Capital: Nassau
Largest City: Nassau
Demonym: Bahaman
Nickname: The Paradise State
Mottoes: Forward, Upward, Onward, Together
Governor: Perry Christie

REPUBLIC of CALIFORNIA
REPÚBLICA de CALIFORNIA

Capital: Sacramento
Largest City: Los Angeles
Demonym: Californian
Nickname: The Golden State
Mottoes: Eureka! (I have found it!)
Governor: Francisco de Lamadrid

DISTRICT of COLUMBIA

Capital: Washington
Largest City: Washington
Demonym: Columbian
Nickname: The Federal State
Mottoes: Justitia omnibus (Justice for all)
No Taxation Without Representation
Governor: Muriel Bowser

STATE of CUBA
ESTADO de CUBA

Capital: Havana
Largest City: Havana
Demonym: Cuban
Nickname: The Ocean State
Mottoes: ¡Libertad o Muerte, Venceremos! (Liberty or death, we shall overcome!)
Governor: Jose Ramon Machado

STATE of DELAWARE

Capital: Dover
Largest City: Wilmington
Demonym: Delawarean
Nickname: The Seaboard State
Mottoes: Liberty and Independence
Governor: Jack Markell

STATE of FLORIDA

Capital: Tallahassee
Largest City: Miami
Demonym: Floridian
Nickname: The Sunshine State
Mottoes: In God We Trust
Governor: Carlos Lopez-Cantera

STATE of GEORGIA

Capital: Atlanta
Largest City: Atlanta
Demonym: Georgian
Nickname: The Peach State
Mottoes: Wisdom, Justice, Moderation
Governor: Nathan Deal

STATE of KANSAS

Capital: Topeka
Largest City: Kansas City
Demonym: Kansan
Nickname: The Sunflower State
Mottoes: Ad astra per aspera (To the stars through difficulties)
Governor: Sam Brownback

COMMONWEALTH of KENTUCKY

Capital: Frankfort
Largest City: Louisville
Demonym: Kentuckian
Nickname: The Bluegrass State
Mottoes: United we stand, Divided we fall
Deo gratiam habemus (Let us be grateful to God)
Voce populi (The voice of the people)
Governor: Steve Beshear

STATE of LOUISIANA
ÉTAT de la LOUISIANE

Capital: Baton Rouge
Largest City: New Orleans
Demonym: Louisianian
Nickname: The Bayou State
Mottoes: Union, Justice, Confidence
Governor: Bobby Jindal

STATE of MARYLAND

Capital: Annapolis
Largest City: Baltimore
Demonym: Marylander
Nickname: The Chesapeake State
Mottoes: Fatti maschii, parole femine (Manly deeds, womanly words)
Governor: Larry Hogan

STATE of MISSISSIPPI

Capital: Scottsborough
Largest City: Scottsborough
Demonym: Mississippian
Nickname: The Magnolia State
Mottoes: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Governor: Phil Bryant

STATE of MISSOURI

Capital: Jefferson
Largest City: Saint Louis
Demonym: Missourian
Nickname: The Show-Me State
Mottoes: Salus populi suprema lex esto (Let the good of the people be the supreme law)
Governor: Jay Nixon

STATE of NEVADA

Capital: Carson City
Largest City: Reno
Demonym: Nevadan
Nickname: The Silver State
Mottoes: All for our country
Governor: Brian Sandoval

STATE of NEW MEXICO
ESTADO de NUEVO MÉXICO
YOOTÓ HAHOODZO

Capital: Santa Fe
Largest City: Phoenix
Demonym: New Mexican
Nickname: The Land of Enchantment
Mottoes: Crescit eundo (It grows as it goes)
Governor: Susana Martinez

STATE of NORTH CAROLINA

Capital: Raleigh
Largest City: Charlotte
Demonym: North Carolinian
Nickname: The Tar Heel State
Mottoes: Esse quam videri (To be, rather than to seem)
Our liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain
Governor: Beverly Perdue

OKLAHOMA
ASGAYA GIGAGEYI
OKLAHUMMA
UUKHUHUÚWA
GAHNAWIYOGEH

Capital: Oklahoma City
Largest City: Oklahoma City
Demonym: Oklahoman
Nickname: The Sooner State
Mottoes: Labor omnia vincit (Work conquers all)
E pluribus unum (Out of many, one)
Governor: Mary Fallin

COMMONWEALTH of PUERTO RICO
MANCOMUNIDAD de PUERTO RICO

Capital: San Juan
Largest City: San Juan
Demonym: Puerto Rican
Nickname: The Progress State
Mottoes: Ioannes est nomen eius (John is his name)
Governor: Alejandro Garcia

STATE of SONORA
ESTADO de SONORA

Capital: Hermosillo
Largest City: Hermosillo
Demonym: Sonoran
Nickname: The Equality State
Mottoes: ¡Unión y Libertad! (Unity and Liberty!)
Governor: Claudia Pavlovich

STATE of SOUTH CAROLINA

Capital: Columbia
Largest City: Columbia
Demonym: South Carolinian
Nickname: The Palmetto State
Mottoes: Dum spiro spero (While I breathe I hope)
Animis opibusque parati (Prepared in mind and resources)
Governor: Nikki Haley

STATE of TENNESSEE

Capital: Nashville
Largest City: Memphis
Demonym: Tennessean
Nickname: The Volunteer State
Mottoes: Agriculture and Commerce
Governor: Bill Haslam

STATE of TEXAS
ESTADO de TEJAS

Capital: Austin
Largest City: Houston
Demonym: Texan
Nickname: The Lone Star State
Mottoes: Friendship
Governor: Greg Abbott

STATE of UTAH
ÁSHĮĮH HAHOODZO
WO'TÉÉNEIHÍ

Capital: Salt Lake City
Largest City: Denver
Demonym: Utahn
Nickname: The Beehive State
Mottoes: Industry
Nil sine numine (Nothing without providence)
Governor: Gary Herbert

COMMONWEALTH of VIRGINIA

Capital: Richmond
Largest City: Virginia Beach
Demonym: Virginian
Nickname: The Old Dominion
Mottoes: Sic semper tyrannis (Thus always to tyrants)
Governor: Ralph Northam

[Unicario]

State of Manchukuo
RUS: Man'chzhuriya
JPN: 満州国 / Manshu-koku
ZH: Mǎnzhōuguó

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Administrative Capital: Rostgorod / Fengtian / Shengyang
Official Language: Russian, Japanese, Korean
Established: January 1, 1921

National Anthem:
There Is A New Manchuria On Earth (official; 1921-1936)
God Save The King (official; 1936-1980)
March of the Motherland (official; 1980-present)

Army: Royal Manchurian Army
Navy: Royal Manchurian Navy
Air Force: Royal Manchurian Air Force

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Monarchs:
All monarchs are of the House Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov-Yamato; the main branch of the Romanov dynasty after the fall of the Russian Empire in 1910.

1921 - 1939: Nicholas I
1939 - 1945: Alexander I
1945 - 1970: Alexander II
1970 - 1986: Feodor
1986 - 1999: Nicholas II
1999 - present: Alexander III

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Major political parties:

Fengtian Soviet (Communist)
Social Democratic Party (Socialist)
Guomindang (Centre-left)
National Union (Centre-right)
Constitutional Party (Conservative)
Alliance of White Russians Against Republicanism (Reactionary)
Syndicalist Front (Fascist)
National Socialist All-Russian Workers Party (Natsi)

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Religion and Ethnic Compromisation
At time of Census, 2015

Japanese: 48.44%
White Russian: 45.38%
Korean: 5.10%
Chinese: ~1%
Other: <1%

Orthodox Christian: 63.33%
Shintoist: 24.41%
Anglican: 11.89%
Other: <1%