AWWA-Yesterday, Today, and Forever(OOC-Closed)

[The Vaktovian Empire]

TBH, I only think you should find a more appropriate picture, I'd rather our wiki not get flagged for inappropriate stuff.

Assuming the fact half or more of that picture was actually edited by me, I don't think it would get flagged. I mean that's how she will be describe when she comes into the picture in a month or so. I just like my pictures to be accurate.

[Unicario]

TBH, I only think you should find a more appropriate picture, I'd rather our wiki not get flagged for inappropriate stuff.

Assuming the fact half or more of that picture was actually edited by me, I don't think it would get flagged. I mean that's how she will be describe when she comes into the picture in a month or so. I just like my pictures to be accurate.

Then that's fine, go ahead and use it. Just please keep in mind that we need to remain family-friendly in some cases. Can't be avoided, but hey, we can try. Let me know if you're interested in selling Algeria. I won't pressure you into it, but we can come to a mutual beneficial deal if you're open to the idea.

[Bojikami]

*counter AU and Rumite Empire glare*

*OAS, EAU, AfrU vs. Tawantisuyu and AU is obvious loss for the latter

Erm, Nigeria begins the AfrU.

[Ruridova]

*OAS, EAU, AfrU vs. Tawantisuyu and AU is obvious loss for the latter

Except you'd find defections from a whole slew of EAU and AfrU members who would refuse to join the war of the OAS Imperialists. The AU would intervene entirely to protect it's trade interests in South America in the form of Tawantinsuyu by all means possible.

So it's more like the Tripartite of Liberty + AU + a good chunk of the AfrU + Britain + Italy + Soviet Union/Ruthenia etc. vs. OAS + remaining EAU

Also: The South American states, afaik, don't give a fuck about what the OAS has to say. They were already reluctant to join the OAS anyway, and the mood is that they want to keep the Confederate imperialist out of their land.

And an obvious loss, eh? The Confederacy wouldn't exactly be able to do all the shit it did in the First Great War. Japan would kind of get the message they need to reform their tactics. >>

OAS imperialists? You seriously are going to call the OAS imperialist?

Excuse me, but which of us is talking about taking large areas of a neighboring country for themselves, and has a history of harassing and threatening to invade that country to steal the land?

EDIT: You're also ridiculously overconfident about how many defections you would get... why would any of those nations support you? You aren't their sole trading partner, they have no reason to support the "Liberty" tripartite violently raping Brazil in the name of "anti-imperialism", it certainly wouldn't do anything for them. Well, aside from metagaming. That's what the term is, right?

So, no, it would be Tawantisuyu and the AU versus the world.

[Unicario]

Except you'd find defections from a whole slew of EAU and AfrU members who would refuse to join the war of the OAS Imperialists. The AU would intervene entirely to protect it's trade interests in South America in the form of Tawantinsuyu by all means possible.

So it's more like the Tripartite of Liberty + AU + a good chunk of the AfrU + Britain + Italy + Soviet Union/Ruthenia etc. vs. OAS + remaining EAU

Also: The South American states, afaik, don't give a fuck about what the OAS has to say. They were already reluctant to join the OAS anyway, and the mood is that they want to keep the Confederate imperialist out of their land.

And an obvious loss, eh? The Confederacy wouldn't exactly be able to do all the shit it did in the First Great War. Japan would kind of get the message they need to reform their tactics. >>

OAS imperialists? You seriously are going to call the OAS imperialist?

Excuse me, but which of us is talking about taking large areas of a neighboring country for themselves, and has a history of harassing and threatening to invade that country to steal the land?

EDIT: You're also ridiculously overconfident about how many defections you would get... why would any of those nations support you? You aren't their sole trading partner, they have no reason to support the "Liberty" tripartite violently raping Brazil in the name of "anti-imperialism", it certainly wouldn't do anything for them. Well, aside from metagaming. That's what the term is, right?

So, no, it would be Tawantisuyu and the AU versus the world.

You really think Venezuela and Guyane like the CSA? You forced all of South America to join the OAS under some bogeyman threat of Europe coming back to colonize the Americas. Try to impede their foreign policy, and they'd all tell your leaders to jump into the Potomac.

The AfrU is not your jurisdiction anyway, except for your nations. The AfrU as a body is controlled by Boji.

[Ruridova]

OAS imperialists? You seriously are going to call the OAS imperialist?

Excuse me, but which of us is talking about taking large areas of a neighboring country for themselves, and has a history of harassing and threatening to invade that country to steal the land?

EDIT: You're also ridiculously overconfident about how many defections you would get... why would any of those nations support you? You aren't their sole trading partner, they have no reason to support the "Liberty" tripartite violently raping Brazil in the name of "anti-imperialism", it certainly wouldn't do anything for them. Well, aside from metagaming. That's what the term is, right?

So, no, it would be Tawantisuyu and the AU versus the world.

You really think Venezuela and Guyane like the CSA? You forced all of South America to join the OAS under some bogeyman threat of Europe coming back to colonize the Americas.

Well, seeing that the Venezuelans were the CSA's allies in the 1830s, sixty years before the OAS... I'd have to suspect that the answer would be yes.

As for Guyane, no, but Guyane isn't really a threat to anyone except perhaps Suriname.

The AfrU is not your juridstiction anyway, except for your nations. The AfrU as a body is controlled by Boji.

True, but the AfrU has no legitimate non-metagaming reason to support Tawantisuyu harassing and/or invading Brazil.

[Unicario]

You really think Venezuela and Guyane like the CSA? You forced all of South America to join the OAS under some bogeyman threat of Europe coming back to colonize the Americas.

Well, seeing that the Venezuelans were the CSA's allies in the 1830s, sixty years before the OAS... I'd have to suspect that the answer would be yes.

As for Guyane, no, but Guyane isn't really a threat to anyone except perhaps Suriname.

The AfrU is not your juridstiction anyway, except for your nations. The AfrU as a body is controlled by Boji.

True, but the AfrU has no legitimate non-metagaming reason to support Tawantisuyu harassing and/or invading Brazil.

I question how offering to buy land from Brazil is harassment, but okaaaaaaaaaaay. And Venezuela has already stated it's more pro-Tawantinsuyu than CSA. But moving on!

[Ruridova]

Well, seeing that the Venezuelans were the CSA's allies in the 1830s, sixty years before the OAS... I'd have to suspect that the answer would be yes.

As for Guyane, no, but Guyane isn't really a threat to anyone except perhaps Suriname.

True, but the AfrU has no legitimate non-metagaming reason to support Tawantisuyu harassing and/or invading Brazil.

I question how offering to buy land from Brazil is harassment, but okaaaaaaaaaaay. And Venezuela has already stated it's more pro-Tawantinsuyu than CSA. But moving on!

For the purposes of not tearing the thread apart, I'll agree to a truce. We can debate this over TG if you want.

[Unicario]

400s RP: Germania

328: The Ripuarian tribe of the Franks encounters a Roman legion along the Rhine River. The tribe attacks the Roman legion and succeeds in shattering the weakened Roman division, however, the manpower cost for the Frankish tribe is very high. From the battle emerges an young 18 year old woman who charismatically unites the survivors, despite her gender. Calling them to arms, they centralize their holdings. The Ripuarian tribe is severely damaged, but the other Germanic tribes are weak as well, pressured hard against the Roman attempts to cross into Germania.

330: Adelheid Helisacharis is named the Chieftess of the Ripuarians, as the Ripuarian army enters Kölle and drives the Romans from the region. The Roman legion some how does not return, which worries Adelheid that their revenge is incoming.

331: Adelheid marries the young Chief of the Thuringians, Leufred, in order to bolster the weakened tribe's fortunes. The Thuringians and Ripuarians are very interested in the idea of creating a unified tribe to deal with Roman aggression. The two agree to call their new dynasty Ripuarii, in honor of the nearly wiped out tribe and for the vanguards of the new Frankish state.

335: Adelheid gives birth to a daughter, whom she names Emma. In this time, the Thuringians and Ripuarii discuss a potential campaign against the Lombards, who live in OTL Czechia. Their goal is to consolidate the Germanic tribes and form a new kingdom state.

337: Adelheid and Leufred are formally named the joint King and Queen of the Franks in a small ceremony in the city of Kölle, and drum up support for the war, however, they are soon faced with a problem from the North.

337-351: Saxon War: Saxon tribes attempt to invade Frankish territory, leading to several battles, leading to the delay of the campaign against the Lombards. The Frankish manage to stave off most of the Saxon attacks, driving the Saxons back north into Saxony and Frisia. In 351, Leufred dies, leading to Adelheid becoming the only ruling monarch in the Frankish realm as her daughter is formally named Chief of the Thuringians after her father's death.

352: Adelheid consolidates her authority over the tribes and begins an expansion program for Kolle, hoping to strengthen the state into a trading city, while also canvasing other settlements to develop. Late in the year, the Lombards attempt to cross west and are halted by the Franks. Forcing them to retreat back into "Lombardia", the Franks pursue them, engaging them several times.

352-381: Lombard-Frisian War: The Franks engage in a war against the Lombards and Frisians as they attempt to break down the growing Frankish state. Polans and Prussians join in leading campaigns south into the region, hoping to force out the Germanic tribes all together. The war is bloody, but a relatively sound victory for Francia, which subjugates the Lombards with some trouble. The Frisians manage to keep the Franks from subjugating them as the Saxons form a strong impediment to the Frankish expansion.

395: Adelheid finally succumbs to old age, leading the way for the 60 year old Emma to inherit the throne. She already has several children. Her primary heir is her daughter Joveta. However...

397: Emma dies of disease, leading to the partition of the fledgling Frankish Empire, stunting it's growth. The Frankish Kingdom is divided into three crowns, the Kingdom of Ripuaria centered around Kolle and it's neighboring region, the Kingdom of Thuringia, and the Kingdom of Lombardia. Joveta is named Queen of Ripuaria, her second-eldest child, Childebrand, is named King of the Thuringians, and her third-eldest child, Theoderada, is named Queen of the Lombards. The three reach an uneasy agreement to remain allies against the Saxons, Romans, Frisians and Slavs. Joveta is 40 years old, Childebrand is 35, and Theoderada is 27.

398-414: Third Saxon War: Believing weakness, the Saxons attempt once again to subjugate the Franks. While the Franks are initially defeated on all fronts, Childebrand scores a major victory over the Saxons just north of the Thuringian capital, however, he perishes in battle in 404. The death of Childebrand causes problems for Ripuaria and Lombardia as the two states now have a disagreement over the rightful Queen of Thuringia. The crisis comes to an unfortunate end when a Saxon huscarl regiment slaughters Joveta when she leads an army against them in 414. The war comes to an end after they realize that Theoderada has now united the Frankish tribes again, but Theoderada swears vengeance upon the Saxons for their crimes, and promises to drive them from Europe. Theoderada's eldest child, Childebrand, named for his fallen uncle who perished the year he was born, is influenced by his mother's passion to wipe the Saxons out.

414-444: Subjugation of the Germanic Tribes: Theoderada leads a campaign to subjugate the Alemanni, Burgundian and Frisians to strengthen her cause against the Saxons. She scores a string of impressive victories, and organizes a new set of states under Frankish domination. This rapid string of victories are ignored by the beleaguered Roman Empire, whose capital was sacked by the Visigothic tribes in 410. With her conquest complete, Theoderada turns her attention north.

444-449: Fourth Saxon War: In the final major war against the Saxons, Theoderada breaks the Saxons and subjugates them mercilessly, driving almost all of them out of the region. This is complicated by the sudden influx of Norse warriors into the region, who are halted in their aggressive expansion in the wake of the Hunnic conquest. The Norse stop spreading, and swear fealty to the Frankish Queen due to their religious connections.

449: Theoderada dies of old age, the Kingdom once again splinters.

• Kingdom of Lombardy: King Childebrand (age 45)
• Kingdom of Thuringia: King Lothar (age 43)
• Kingdom of Burgundy: Queen Joveta (age 40)
• Kingdom of Ripuaria: Queen Adelheid (age 39)
• Kingdom of Saxony: King Charibert (age 39)
• Kingdom of Frisia: King Chlodowig (age 38)

450: The Frankish realms agree to meet in Ripuaria to discuss the future of the country.

452: Frankish Empire created with the election of Childebrand as Emperor of the Franks, and the submittance of all five siblings to Childebrand's power, provided he agrees to defend the rights of the individual realms. The Frankish Empire begins the process of centralizing armies and trade power to levy against the crumbling Roman Empire.

453: Final Saxon War: A group of Saxons return from Britannia to reconquest Saxony from the Franks. They are completely shattered. Britannia and "Francia" open trade relations formally, agreeing to cooperate.

456: The death of the Hunnic Emperor in Scandinavia brings a sigh of relief to the Franks, having secured their stability for the near future. In the intervening years between 456 and 476, the Frankish language begins to take on a new form, and is renamed "Teutonic" by Emperor Childebrand.

476: After the Visigothic tribes sack Rome and depose the Roman Emperor, Emperor Childebrand of the Teutons declares war on the remnant Soissons kingdom in Gaul, intending to conquer it in the name of the Teutonic peoples. The Suebi and Vandal tribes, living in Alemannia, a tribal holding under the Kingdom of Thuringia, march west in advance, looking to carve out their own fate. 476 marks the beginning of the Gaul Campaign.

[Bojikami]

Also, Uni and I were taking about adding a third nation.

I claimed Vsenyslavia (Novgorod at its height and Muscovy)

[The Vaktovian Empire]

All I know is I'm being France and possibly a Nordic Nation, or Central European nation.

[Bojikami]

All I know is I'm being France and possibly a Nordic Nation, or Central European nation.

Uni already has France and Central Europe.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

All I know is I'm being France and possibly a Nordic Nation, or Central European nation.

Uni already has France and Central Europe.

I'm pretty sure when we were first debating, Uni claimed Pagan England, so I claimed France.

[Bojikami]

Uni already has France and Central Europe.

I'm pretty sure when we were first debating, Uni claimed Pagan England, so I claimed France.

No. Uni, if you bothered to read his post, claimed the Empire of Francia.

[Unicario]

I'm pretty sure when we were first debating, Uni claimed Pagan England, so I claimed France.

No. Uni, if you bothered to read his post, claimed the Empire of Francia.

^Das ist true

[Ruridova]

No. Uni, if you bothered to read his post, claimed the Empire of Francia.

^Das ist true

I thought we agreed to only claim 2 nations.

[Shrillland]

You really think Venezuela and Guyane like the CSA? You forced all of South America to join the OAS under some bogeyman threat of Europe coming back to colonize the Americas.

Well, seeing that the Venezuelans were the CSA's allies in the 1830s, sixty years before the OAS... I'd have to suspect that the answer would be yes.

As for Guyane, no, but Guyane isn't really a threat to anyone except perhaps Suriname.

I resent that. West Guyane is a threat because Communism is a threat.

[Ruridova]

Impending von Licht lawsuit directed at Belinsky once I can write a decent post.

[Bojikami]

Impending von Licht lawsuit directed at Belinsky once I can write a decent post.

For?

[Bojikami]

^Das ist true

I thought we agreed to only claim 2 nations.

Uni and I decided to expand that to three. So long as all nations are reasonable.

[Ruridova]

Impending von Licht lawsuit directed at Belinsky once I can write a decent post.

For?

I'll have the post up soon.. you'll get to see then.

I thought we agreed to only claim 2 nations.

Uni and I decided to expand that to three. So long as all nations are reasonable.

Ok.

[Bojikami]

For?

I'll have the post up soon.. you'll get to see then.

No seriously for what? Writing a dystopian novel? The Von Lichts don't own the genre.

[Ruridova]

I'll have the post up soon.. you'll get to see then.

No seriously for what? Writing a dystopian novel? The Von Lichts don't own the genre.

The title. Belinsky took one of Georg von Licht's titles- Liberty and Justice for All- and is now terrified that Belinsky's book will be confused with von Licht's book and that someone might decide to attack him and his family. Also, CS copyright law and "passing off" law apply.
Also, it's been established ICly that Gavriil fon Likht/Gabriel Light is a bit of a self-centered self-righteous douche, so this seems like something he'd do.

Meanwhile, the Department of Justice is fighting against Congress to keep Belinsky's book legal, and the case will inevitably be tried by SCOTCS.

[Ruridova]

Totally unrelated, but I want to say this now as a preventative measure: the movie Independence Day is mine.

[Bojikami]

No seriously for what? Writing a dystopian novel? The Von Lichts don't own the genre.

The title. Belinsky took one of Georg von Licht's titles- Liberty and Justice for All- and is now terrified that Belinsky's book will be confused with von Licht's book and that someone might decide to attack him and his family. Also, CS copyright law and "passing off" law apply.
Also, it's been established ICly that Gavriil fon Likht/Gabriel Light is a bit of a self-centered self-righteous douche, so this seems like something he'd do.

Meanwhile, the Department of Justice is fighting against Congress to keep Belinsky's book legal, and the case will inevitably be tried by SCOTCS.

Despite there being no legislation protecting international copyright in Venezuela, Belinsky shall humor Mr. von Licht.