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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:42 pm
by Unicario
Ruridova wrote:
Unicario wrote:
Okay, so my plagarism is okay. I already kind of stole FDR's speech, but that's because it was perfect for the situation. The irony of a Japanese Emperor talking about "Day of Infamy" is too rich.

FDR isn't mine, so it would have to be Shrill who objected to FDR.


:P

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:58 pm
by Shrillland
Unicario wrote:
Ruridova wrote:FDR isn't mine, so it would have to be Shrill who objected to FDR.


:P


Unless there's another war, I don't think FDR will need it.

Oh, and Rurik, don't assume the CSA's getting nothing. Albany isn't planning any concessions, but London will. In the eyes of Britain herself, this was a grievous defeat that was only saved by uncontrollable forces. So how about the Bahamas or Jamaica or some of the Antilles?
As for the peace conferences, they will be a little delayed ICly. Two nations(The Boer States) won't make peace until early '93 at Vereeniging since peace for them means their absorption into the new Dominion of South Africa.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:08 pm
by Ruridova
The von Licht family, members of note. The ones that I've made, that is.

GENERATION 1
Georg Albrecht von Licht Born in Germany - Died in Russia
Father: Paulus von Licht
Mother: Selina von Licht (née Sachsenhof)
Siblings: none
Wife: Yuliya Nikolayevna fon Likhta (née Kulikova)
Children: Iosif Dzhordzhevich fon Likht
Gavriil Dzhordzhevich fon Likht
GENERATION 2
Gavriil Dzhordzhevich fon Likht Born in Russia - Died in CSA
Father: Georg von Licht
Mother: Yuliya fon Likhta (née Kulikova)
Siblings: Iosif fon Likht
Wife: Harriet Patricia Light (née Brixton)
Children: Robert Lee Light
Charlotte Ulrike Huang (née Fengliguoda)
Matthieu Sylvestre de Lict
GENERATION 3
Robert Lee Light Born in CSA - Died in (undecided)
Father: Gavriil fon Likht
Mother: Harriet Light (née Brixton)
Siblings: Charlotte Huang (née Fengliguoda)
Matthieu de Lict
Wife: (undetermined)
Children: (undetermined)
Charlotte Ulrike Huang (née Fengliguoda) Born in CSA - Died in Jiaozhou
Father: Gavriil fon Likht
Mother: Harriet Light (née Brixton)
Siblings: Robert Light
Matthieu de Lict
Wife: (undetermined)
Children: (undetermined)
Matthieu Sylvestre de Lict Born in CSA - Died in Quebec
Father: Gavriil fon Likht
Mother: Harriet Light (née Brixton)
Siblings: Robert Light
Charlotte Huang (née Fengliguoda)
Wife: (undetermined)
Children: (undetermined)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:09 pm
by Ruridova
Shrillland wrote:
Unicario wrote:
:P


Unless there's another war, I don't think FDR will need it.

Oh, and Rurik, don't assume the CSA's getting nothing. Albany isn't planning any concessions, but London will. In the eyes of Britain herself, this was a grievous defeat that was only saved by uncontrollable forces. So how about the Bahamas or Jamaica or some of the Antilles?
As for the peace conferences, they will be a little delayed ICly. Two nations(The Boer States) won't make peace until early '93 at Vereeniging since peace for them means their absorption into the new Dominion of South Africa.

The CSA will have the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos, if that's all right.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:19 pm
by Shrillland
Ruridova wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Unless there's another war, I don't think FDR will need it.

Oh, and Rurik, don't assume the CSA's getting nothing. Albany isn't planning any concessions, but London will. In the eyes of Britain herself, this was a grievous defeat that was only saved by uncontrollable forces. So how about the Bahamas or Jamaica or some of the Antilles?
As for the peace conferences, they will be a little delayed ICly. Two nations(The Boer States) won't make peace until early '93 at Vereeniging since peace for them means their absorption into the new Dominion of South Africa.

The CSA will have the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos, if that's all right.


Certainly.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:05 am
by Unicario
Shrillland wrote:
Ruridova wrote:The CSA will have the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos, if that's all right.


Certainly.


"gib jamaica" - URCA

Nah, just kidding.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:15 am
by Ruridova
Good news: I have all day today to spend at home, instead of going to school, which means more NationStates access.
Bad news: I'm running a fever, my nose is clogged, and I've been coughing pretty hard, meaning that I'm too sick to go to school.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:46 am
by Shrillland
Well, while we're looking at peace, should we include the final nasty surprise that awaited the world after the original Great War?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:24 am
by Ruridova
Shrillland wrote:Well, while we're looking at peace, should we include the final nasty surprise that awaited the world after the original Great War?

Spanish flu? Where will it start?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:44 am
by Shrillland
Ruridova wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, while we're looking at peace, should we include the final nasty surprise that awaited the world after the original Great War?

Spanish flu? Where will it start?


Well, OTL it started in Kansas believe it or not, but with the Canadian defeat, we'll start it in Ontario. It'll be called the Canadian flu, or as some enemies will nickname it, "Albany's Vengeance".

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:45 am
by Ruridova
Shrillland wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Spanish flu? Where will it start?


Well, OTL it started in Kansas believe it or not, but with the Canadian defeat, we'll start it in Ontario. It'll be called the Canadian flu, or as some enemies will nickname it, "Albany's Vengeance".

Ok.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:52 am
by Shrillland
The next several years will be dark ones for humanity, really. A global flu pandemic and a short but intense period of global cooling(1892-early 1894) resulting from the volcanic eruptions will make for some pretty interesting events around the world.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:39 pm
by Unicario
Let the peace begin!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:33 pm
by Ruridova
Fact about OTL Theodore Roosevelt: he was very much an American exceptionalist, and thought that the US had to fill the vacuum of the British Empire(which he viewed as on the verge of collapse). He was also an incredibly firm believer in the Monroe Doctrine: he proposed a US invasion of Canada, and went to incredible lengths to get the US involved in Cuba's war of independence.

So obviously that has to change ATL.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:38 pm
by Luziyca
Ruridova wrote:Fact about OTL Theodore Roosevelt: he was very much an American exceptionalist, and thought that the US had to fill the vacuum of the British Empire(which he viewed as on the verge of collapse). He was also an incredibly firm believer in the Monroe Doctrine: he proposed a US invasion of Canada, and went to incredible lengths to get the US involved in Cuba's war of independence.

So obviously that has to change ATL.

He should buy parts of the Congo and run it like OTL Congo Free State. :P

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:41 pm
by Ruridova
Luziyca wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Fact about OTL Theodore Roosevelt: he was very much an American exceptionalist, and thought that the US had to fill the vacuum of the British Empire(which he viewed as on the verge of collapse). He was also an incredibly firm believer in the Monroe Doctrine: he proposed a US invasion of Canada, and went to incredible lengths to get the US involved in Cuba's war of independence.

So obviously that has to change ATL.

He should buy parts of the Congo and run it like OTL Congo Free State. :P

No. The Congo's going through enough hell anyways.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:46 pm
by Luziyca
Ruridova wrote:
Luziyca wrote:He should buy parts of the Congo and run it like OTL Congo Free State. :P

No. The Congo's going through enough hell anyways.

When the Congo Civil War comes in the 1960s, it'd be interesting to see how living standards stand up.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:57 am
by Ruridova
Since Boji's told me that Chernobyl is still going to occur, I've decided on an AWWAball rule: the USSRball is to be drawn with three eyes.

AWWA POLANDBALL RULES
- Germany is a Reichtangle
- Imperial Russia always wears a crown
- Jews and the JAO are cubes
- the CSA has sunglasses
- Quebec has a beret
- Britain has a top hat and a monocle
- Jiaozhou has a pickelhaube
- the USSR has three eyes
- Japan does not have 'Asian' features

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:44 am
by Shrillland
Ruridova wrote:Fact about OTL Theodore Roosevelt: he was very much an American exceptionalist, and thought that the US had to fill the vacuum of the British Empire(which he viewed as on the verge of collapse). He was also an incredibly firm believer in the Monroe Doctrine: he proposed a US invasion of Canada, and went to incredible lengths to get the US involved in Cuba's war of independence.

So obviously that has to change ATL.


Not really. Canada is already creating a foreign policy independent of Great Britain's thanks to the six points.

In other news, we have an ATL world without America. After 11 my time tonight, we might have an OTL world without Britain.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:01 pm
by Ruridova
Shrillland wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Fact about OTL Theodore Roosevelt: he was very much an American exceptionalist, and thought that the US had to fill the vacuum of the British Empire(which he viewed as on the verge of collapse). He was also an incredibly firm believer in the Monroe Doctrine: he proposed a US invasion of Canada, and went to incredible lengths to get the US involved in Cuba's war of independence.

So obviously that has to change ATL.


Not really. Canada is already creating a foreign policy independent of Great Britain's thanks to the six points.

So he's just going to be "Westminster needs to GTFO from Canadian affairs"?
In other news, we have an ATL world without America. After 11 my time tonight, we might have an OTL world without Britain.

Indeed.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:21 pm
by Unicario
Is that why you guys changed your flags to Scottish ones?

Keep Scotland in the Union -- Vote No

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:04 pm
by Unicario
Side note: I discovered that until the late 20th/early 21st century, several hereditary titles were given seats on the House of Lords, including the Duke of Gloucester -- this means that the Emperor of Japan is a member of the House of Lords. :P

Since the Dissolution of the Monasteries, the Lords Temporal have been the most numerous group in the House of Lords. Unlike the Lords Spiritual, they may be publicly partisan, aligning themselves with one or another of the political parties that dominate the House of Commons. Publicly non-partisan Lords are called crossbenchers. Originally, the Lords Temporal included several hundred hereditary peers (that is, those whose peerages may be inherited), who ranked variously as dukes, marquesses, earls, viscounts, and barons (as well as Scottish Lords of Parliament). Such hereditary dignities can be created by the Crown; in modern times this is done on the advice of the Prime Minister of the day (except in the case of members of the Royal Family).

In 1999, the Labour government brought forward the House of Lords Act removing the right of several hundred hereditary peers to sit in the House. The Act provided a temporary measure that only 92 individuals may continue to sit in the Upper House by virtue of hereditary peerages.

Of these, two remain in the House of Lords because they hold royal offices connected with Parliament: the Earl Marshal and the Lord Great Chamberlain. Of the remaining 90 members of the House of Lords sitting by virtue of a hereditary peerage in the House of Lords, 14 are elected by the whole House and 74 are chosen by fellow hereditary peers in the House of Lords, grouped by party. This Act, included the Principality of Wales and the Earldom of Chester and removed all Royal Peers including the Duke of Edinburgh, Duke of York, Earl of Wessex, Duke of Gloucester and the Duke of Kent.


So, by this merit, Emperor Alexander I, Empress Elizabeth, Emperor Alexander II and Empress Akane shall all be sitting members of the British House of Lords operating by proxy of the family of Alexander's brother, Prince James, and his descendants, who sit as their retainers. Empress Akane's right to sit in the House of Lords would be revoked in 1999 by the Labour government, and the title would be mostly just a status symbol, that passes on to Noriko in 2008.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:42 pm
by Bojikami
I can into flag trends.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:06 pm
by Unicario
I should change my flag again, just to piss Ruri off. :P <3

i actually like the st. andrews cross i want to have the russian naval jack cross as my country flag pls don't kill me

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:09 pm
by Bojikami
Unicario wrote:I should change my flag again, just to piss Ruri off. :P <3

i actually like the st. andrews cross i want to have the russian naval jack cross as my country flag pls don't kill me

I won't harm you.