NationStates

-Party Name: Wirtschaftspartei (WP)
-Leader: Johann Viktor Bredt
-Important Members: Carl Freybe, Gotthard Sachsenberg
-Party Alignment: economic right, social conservative
-Party Headquarters: Saxony
-Party Numbers: Not a lot. (see "Other")
-Party Platform: From Wikipedia: Following the establishment of the Weimar Republic the German National People's Party (DNVP), which emerged as the main conservative party, hoped to include Germany's established bourgeoisie as a natural part of its own support base. This however was not to the case, as the party quickly became associated with general rural interests as well as those of big business and as a result the WP was formed in 1920 to be the party of these Mittelstand views. In order to reflect the views of this group, the WP called for a reduction in government economic involvement, a freer hand for business and lower tax. The WP did not dominate as the middle class vote, as some did go with the DNVP whilst others preferred more radical right alternatives but generally the WP emerged as the main group to specifically target the middle classes for its support.
-Party Para-Military Group: N/A
-Other: Not much of the smallish party is recorded, unfortunately. As such, all realistic factual details are extremely brief and hard to find.

Group Name: Wiking Bund
Leader: Hermann Ehrhardt
Important Members: Ernst Pöhner (Former Bavarian police chief), Ernst von Salomon, Hans Ulrich Klintzsch, Julius Schreck, Friedrich Wilhelm Heinz, Horst Wessel and Joseph Berchtold.
Group Alignment: Far right, nationalist, can be pretty anti-semitic.
Group Headquarters: Munich/Bavaria.
Group Numbers: Around 15,000 men
Associated Political Parties: DNVP, though they may not like it, and the NSDAP, they will like it, many of our men are also involved in the SA.
Other: We are terrorists, have already killed about 400 people, and most of the members will join the Nazi's if they ever get power, our organisation's headquarters is disguised as a wood trading firm, though it's really just a warehouse full of weaponry.

Source for the manpower is here, it's a reliable website, so I don't have any reason to believe it's wrong.

Orthodox Brotherhood wrote:Group Name: Organisation Consul
Leader: Hermann Ehrhardt
Important Members: Ernst Pöhner (Former Bavarian police chief), Ernst von Salomon, Hans Ulrich Klintzsch, Julius Schreck, Friedrich Wilhelm Heinz and Joseph Berchtold.
Group Alignment: Far right, nationalist, can be pretty anti-semitic.
Group Headquarters: Munich.
Group Numbers: Around 5,000 men
Associated Political Parties: DNVP, though they may not like it, and the NSDAP, they will like it, many of our men are also involved in the SA.
Other: We are terrorists, have already killed about 400 people, and most of the members will join the Nazi's if they ever get power, we are soon to be renamed the Wiking Bund, and our organisation's headquarters is disguised as a wood trading firm, though it's really just a warehouse full of weaponry.

Is this real?

The Time Alliance wrote:Is this real?

Entirely.

-Party Name: Full name: Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands Acronym: KPD
-Leader: Ernst Thalmann
-Important Members:
Clara Zetkin: one of the party's most vocal women's rights activist
Paul Frolich: a prominent journalist in the party
Hugo Eberlein: a prominent politician and one of the party's most powerful figures
August Thalheimer: one of the founders of the KPD and one of the party's most powerful figurers
Ernst Meyer: a high ranking official in the KPD
-Party Alignment: Far Left
-Party Headquarters: Berlin
-Party Numbers: 220,000
-Party Platform: Opposes the current government heavily. The party supports the abolition of private property, the establishment of land reform programs, so that the government can take over the land and distribute it for the common good, government ownership of all industrial productive forces, so that they can be run for the benefit of the people rather than the capitalists, and allying with the Soviet Union to unite Germany and the Soviet Union in a struggle against world capitalism.
-Party Para-Military Group: No official group until 1924 when the Rotfrontkämpferbund is founded. I plan on creating this much earlier
-Other: The KPD is very active in the international community as they are one of the most prominent members of the Comintern. I plan on involving their activeness in the international community in my RP.

He kids you not. However, the OC died in 1922, and as this RP begins in January 1923, you're going to have to do some serious negotiation with the OP.

Arkolon wrote:He kids you not. However, the OC died in 1922, and as this RP begins in January 1923, you're going to have to do some serious negotiation with the OP.

In that case we, I think we are still around, just called the Wiking Bund.

-Party Name: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, NSDAP
-Leader: Adolf Hitler
-Important Members:
-Party Alignment: Nationalist, Anti-simetic, Far right wing
-Party Headquarters: Munich, Bavaria
-Party Numbers: 20,000
-Party Platform: German reunification, opposed to the Treaty of Versailles, Rearmament, Economic reformation, Opposed to Communists and Jews,
-Party Para-Military Groups: Stabwache(Nazi bodyguards, roughly 200 members?)
Sturmabteilung(Party's Brawlers, 3000 members or so)
-Other: Allied with General Von Ludendorff, and the Wiking Bund

WHEEEEEEE

-Group Name: Sturmabteilung
-Leader: Hans Ulrich Klintzsch
-Important Members: Emil Maurice,
-Group Alignment: Militant, obviously, being paramilitary, nationalistic, sort of centrist-left wing, maybe, fascist supporting
-Group Headquarters: Munich... sort of? :/
-Group Numbers: Umm... 10,000? Hard to find numbers
-Associated Political Parties: Ah schut. Only Nazis. :/
-Other: We control the SS!

Alleniana wrote:WHEEEEEEE

-Group Name: Sturmabteilung
-Leader: Hans Ulrich Klintzsch
-Important Members: Emil Maurice,
-Group Alignment: Militant, obviously, being paramilitary, nationalistic, sort of centrist-left wing, maybe, fascist supporting
-Group Headquarters: Munich... sort of? :/
-Group Numbers: Umm... 10,000? Hard to find numbers
-Associated Political Parties: Ah schut. Only Nazis. :/
-Other: We control the SS!

Wait, they were center left but supported far right

Alleniana wrote:SA stuff

Nazi's already claimed that... how about the commies? Proletarische Hundertschaften is free, saw them while picking one myself.

Paketo wrote:

Alleniana wrote:WHEEEEEEE

-Group Name: Sturmabteilung
-Leader: Hans Ulrich Klintzsch
-Important Members: Emil Maurice,
-Group Alignment: Militant, obviously, being paramilitary, nationalistic, sort of centrist-left wing, maybe, fascist supporting
-Group Headquarters: Munich... sort of? :/
-Group Numbers: Umm... 10,000? Hard to find numbers
-Associated Political Parties: Ah schut. Only Nazis. :/
-Other: We control the SS!

Wait, they were center left but supported far right

Do we have a monarchist group.

Paketo wrote:

Alleniana wrote:WHEEEEEEE

-Group Name: Sturmabteilung
-Leader: Hans Ulrich Klintzsch
-Important Members: Emil Maurice,
-Group Alignment: Militant, obviously, being paramilitary, nationalistic, sort of centrist-left wing, maybe, fascist supporting
-Group Headquarters: Munich... sort of? :/
-Group Numbers: Umm... 10,000? Hard to find numbers
-Associated Political Parties: Ah schut. Only Nazis. :/
-Other: We control the SS!

Wait, they were center left but supported far right

Nazis, I would say, weren't quite so much far right as militant centrist. There was a General debate on this.

Hmm... maybe monarchists then, or Bavarian independentists?

Dangelia wrote:

Paketo wrote:
Wait, they were center left but supported far right

Do we have a monarchist group.

As in para military, I do not believe so. We can form one to protect ourselves later

Alleniana wrote:

Paketo wrote:
Wait, they were center left but supported far right

Nazis, I would say, weren't quite so much far right as militant centrist. There was a General debate on this.

Hmm... maybe monarchists then, or Bavarian independentists?

So you wanna support me

Paketo wrote:

Dangelia wrote:Do we have a monarchist group.

As in para military, I do not believe so. We can form one to protect ourselves later

Alleniana wrote:Nazis, I would say, weren't quite so much far right as militant centrist. There was a General debate on this.

Hmm... maybe monarchists then, or Bavarian independentists?

So you wanna support me

Who you?

Alleniana wrote:

Paketo wrote:
As in para military, I do not believe so. We can form one to protect ourselves later



So you wanna support me

Who you?

Well who I signed up for, the BVP

Damn, DNVP is gone too
where's that page of parties?

Paketo wrote:

Dangelia wrote:Do we have a monarchist group.

As in para military, I do not believe so. We can form one to protect ourselves later

Awright!

-Nation Name: Union of Soviet Socalist Republics
-Type of Government: Single Party State
-Head of State: Mikhail Kalinin
-Head of Government: Vladimir Lenin (abiet nearly removed from politcs, with his role being supplanted by Stalin.
-Ambassador to Germany: Nikolay Krestinsky
-Capital City: Moscow
-Population: 137,727,000 (abiet a 1920's census)
-Military: 530,000 (abiet 1923)
-Relationship with Germany: The relationship between the USSR and Germany is a confused one. While the revolutionary views of the USSR are a source of fear to some political groups in Germany and a inspiration to others, on the national level, the two nations co-operate well. German aid has been instrumental in the ongoing industrialization of the Soviet Union, and both nations have co-operated in the on-going development of armoured warfare. On the international front, both nations share a joint problem over the existance of a Polish nation, as well as being outcasts on the international stage: the USSR for it's revolutionary past, and Germany for being to "blame" for the First World War.

With the role of the Comitern in promoting internationalism, the Soviet Union has a excellent link to the German Communist organizations, and though the concept of world revolution has been shaken in the aftermath of the Polish-Soviet War, the oppertunity to mount a successful bolshevik revolution exists.


Questions:

- How will the Communist International play in to this? I assume the KPD won't exactly be a Soviet puppet, but I'd still expect co-operation in exchange for clandestine support.
- I intend to have Trotsky come out on top of the power struggle once Lenin dies. Is that too far out there? It will have drastic impacts on the Soviet Union in this RP: the NEP remains in place, no purges, no "Socialism in One Country".

I have no clue which party to go with.....

The Time Alliance wrote:I have no clue which party to go with.....

Go with a monarchist party, that way we can work together and bring the monarch back to power.

Dangelia wrote:

The Time Alliance wrote:I have no clue which party to go with.....

Go with a monarchist party, that way we can work together and bring the monarch back to power.

The DNVP?

The Time Alliance wrote:

Dangelia wrote:Go with a monarchist party, that way we can work together and bring the monarch back to power.

The DNVP?

One one already chose DNVP, but his app was kinda weak, so you could do that.

Dangelia wrote:

The Time Alliance wrote:The DNVP?

One one already chose DNVP, but his app was kinda weak, so you could do that.

Would that be a monarchy party?

yes. it is...

Screw it, I'll app for DNVP too