1864 (Schleswig War) RP (OOC, Signup)

[Tracian Empire]

It's interesting how when it's about Denmark, everyone is worrying that it will be unfair, but when unrealistically, the rest of the European great powers turn against the Germans, nobody says anything.

[Sjealand]

It's interesting how when it's about Denmark, everyone is worrying that it will be unfair, but when unrealistically, the rest of the European great powers turn against the Germans, nobody says anything.

Im literally joking. Jesus you and the other complain whenever someone is against you. Relax man its an rp. If someone want to be on someones side then let them. Ive almost only seen you post

These people apparently support denmark even though they shouldnt. And you say stuff is unrealistic whenever you dont like it but if its unrealistic and you like it then its fine.

What im trying to achieve is an rp that is somewhat equal and that wont just be a one-sided push for the one side but im not sure thats what you want...

Three fronts if France allies with us

No! FOUR FRONTS!

I think France allying with that many against the germans would probably upset the british and spanish though. It kind of upsets the balance of the congress of vienna

[Tracian Empire]

It's interesting how when it's about Denmark, everyone is worrying that it will be unfair, but when unrealistically, the rest of the European great powers turn against the Germans, nobody says anything.

Im literally joking. Jesus you and the other complain whenever someone is against you. Relax man its an rp. If someone want to be on someones side then let them. Ive almost only seen you post

These people apparently support denmark even though they shouldnt. And you say stuff is unrealistic whenever you dont like it but if its unrealistic and you like it then its fine.

What im trying to achieve is an rp that is somewhat equal and that wont just be a one-sided push for the one side but im not sure thats what you want...

No! FOUR FRONTS!

I think France allying with that many against the germans would probably upset the british and spanish though. It kind of upsets the balance of the congress of vienna

No, I am saying that stuff is unrealistic when it is unrealistic. Russia is on a crash course like, but if its player wants to go to war against two other great powers, okay, his choice, but he'll suffer the consequences. But France? Italy? France is in the middle of their Mexican adventure, and Napoleon III has widespread internal opposition. Italy is still young, with many people opposing the unification, and with a rebellion in the south of their country. It's unrealistic for them to enter what is already huge and dangerous. More than that, the conflict degenerating would upset the balance of the congress, and it would obviously bring Britain and Spain in too.

[Sjealand]

Im literally joking. Jesus you and the other complain whenever someone is against you. Relax man its an rp. If someone want to be on someones side then let them. Ive almost only seen you post

These people apparently support denmark even though they shouldnt. And you say stuff is unrealistic whenever you dont like it but if its unrealistic and you like it then its fine.

What im trying to achieve is an rp that is somewhat equal and that wont just be a one-sided push for the one side but im not sure thats what you want...


I think France allying with that many against the germans would probably upset the british and spanish though. It kind of upsets the balance of the congress of vienna

No, I am saying that stuff is unrealistic when it is unrealistic. Russia is on a crash course like, but if its player wants to go to war against two other great powers, okay, his choice, but he'll suffer the consequences. But France? Italy? France is in the middle of their Mexican adventure, and Napoleon III has widespread internal opposition. Italy is still young, with many people opposing the unification, and with a rebellion in the south of their country. It's unrealistic for them to enter what is already huge and dangerous. More than that, the conflict degenerating would upset the balance of the congress, and it would obviously bring Britain and Spain in too.

Well shouldnt they be allowed to do whatever they want? Frances mission just means they number of troops they can field will be minor.

[Tracian Empire]

No, I am saying that stuff is unrealistic when it is unrealistic. Russia is on a crash course like, but if its player wants to go to war against two other great powers, okay, his choice, but he'll suffer the consequences. But France? Italy? France is in the middle of their Mexican adventure, and Napoleon III has widespread internal opposition. Italy is still young, with many people opposing the unification, and with a rebellion in the south of their country. It's unrealistic for them to enter what is already huge and dangerous. More than that, the conflict degenerating would upset the balance of the congress, and it would obviously bring Britain and Spain in too.

Well shouldnt they be allowed to do whatever they want? Frances mission just means they number of troops they can field will be minor.

Because it doesn't make sense? Because the French people will be at Napoleon's throat? He's more than free to do it, but we must consider the consequences.

[Sjealand]

Well shouldnt they be allowed to do whatever they want? Frances mission just means they number of troops they can field will be minor.

Because it doesn't make sense? Because the French people will be at Napoleon's throat? He's more than free to do it, but we must consider the consequences.

You didnt say that when you wanted him to support you. Why is it realism only matters when it will affect german negatively

[Tracian Empire]

Because it doesn't make sense? Because the French people will be at Napoleon's throat? He's more than free to do it, but we must consider the consequences.

You didnt say that when you wanted him to support you. Why is it realism only matters when it will affect german negatively

I never wanted him to support me. All I wanted was a friendly neutrality, which wouldn't have much effect internally.

[Austria and Bavaria]

No, I am saying that stuff is unrealistic when it is unrealistic. Russia is on a crash course like, but if its player wants to go to war against two other great powers, okay, his choice, but he'll suffer the consequences. But France? Italy? France is in the middle of their Mexican adventure, and Napoleon III has widespread internal opposition. Italy is still young, with many people opposing the unification, and with a rebellion in the south of their country. It's unrealistic for them to enter what is already huge and dangerous. More than that, the conflict degenerating would upset the balance of the congress, and it would obviously bring Britain and Spain in too.

Well shouldnt they be allowed to do whatever they want? Frances mission just means they number of troops they can field will be minor.

Since when were we able to do whatever we want and ignore basic realism?

[Tracian Empire]

Well shouldnt they be allowed to do whatever they want? Frances mission just means they number of troops they can field will be minor.

Since when were we able to do whatever we want and ignore basic realism?

No idea. But if Russia and Italy will go to war like that, I'll ignore the multi-ethnic mess in Austria a little.

[Austria and Bavaria]

Is it too early for my supplies to be arriving in Poland?

Also, Austria, think you could open the Diet?

[Tracian Empire]

Is it too early for my supplies to be arriving in Poland?

Also, Austria, think you could open the Diet?

I will try to, but I can't promise anything for today as it seems that I'm developing a fever. I hate colds.

[Tracian Empire]

Since AH seems to be the fashion, could I have the Austrians having managed to supply most of their soldiers with relatively good quality Lorenz rifles, and have the Wanzl rifle being proposed in the higher circles of the army?

[Sjealand]

Since AH seems to be the fashion, could I have the Austrians having managed to supply most of their soldiers with relatively good quality Lorenz rifles, and have the Wanzl rifle being proposed in the higher circles of the army?

It doesnt seem like a problem to me. Thats fine

Would it be okay if most of the defensive guns at dannevirke was breech-loading or is that still to far in the future? My offensive artillery would still load from the front

[Tracian Empire]

Since AH seems to be the fashion, could I have the Austrians having managed to supply most of their soldiers with relatively good quality Lorenz rifles, and have the Wanzl rifle being proposed in the higher circles of the army?

It doesnt seem like a problem to me. Thats fine

Would it be okay if most of the defensive guns at dannevirke was breech-loading or is that still to far in the future? My offensive artillery would still load from the front

Difficult to say, I'm not an expert on the matter. But as far as I know, only certain armies in the world, like Prussia, really followed the idea of breech-loading.

[Sjealand]

It doesnt seem like a problem to me. Thats fine

Would it be okay if most of the defensive guns at dannevirke was breech-loading or is that still to far in the future? My offensive artillery would still load from the front

Difficult to say, I'm not an expert on the matter. But as far as I know, only certain armies in the world, like Prussia, really followed the idea of breech-loading.

Yea its just that if i face a giant army of soldiers with superior firearms id like to have cannons that could fire a bit faster. I wont use them offensively

[Tracian Empire]

Difficult to say, I'm not an expert on the matter. But as far as I know, only certain armies in the world, like Prussia, really followed the idea of breech-loading.

Yea its just that if i face a giant army of soldiers with superior firearms id like to have cannons that could fire a bit faster. I wont use them offensively

Well, I'd like to have my language and supply issues fixed so that I can compete with Prussia. I personally don't have any issue with small modifications, like the Austrians actually managing to standardize their muzzle-loaded musket, but since I don't know much about the cannons of the era, I can't say whether breech-loaded cannons were common or not.

[United Layfet]

Did this RP die?

[Tracian Empire]

Still here. Mainly waiting on Prussia and Russia.

[United Layfet]

I have to wait till march in game time, unless someone wanted to play as the Confederacy

[Grothmogia]

Alright, sorry for the extended lapse in RP activity, it has been quite busy for me the past couple of weeks. So, anything especially fun happen while I was gone?

[Grothmogia]

Finally posted at the Diet. Let me say that it should be an interesting post.

[New Xarthanzia]

Nation claimed: Confederate States of America
Ruler: President Jefferson Davis
Nations advantages (Not military): Large agricultural sector composed primarily of cotton and tobacco
Nations weaknesses (Not military): Large-scale destruction of industry by the Union and low industrial power; low population; little immigration; poor financial situation; lack of food and fuel; most land is taken up by large plantations
Side of the war and reason: Freedom from the Union; less government control over the lives of citizens; upholding slavery (as long as it is profitable, though that may soon change); opposing Northern manufacturing interests and bringing industry to the South
National Flag, Naval flag and war flag:National FlagNaval FlagNaval JackWar Flag
Government type: Democratic Presidential Republic (confederation)
National language: none official; minorities of German, French, Gaelic, and Spanish; majority English
National Religion: None official; mostly Christian with majority Protestant
Predominant ethnicity: English
Population (Use wikipedia for help): roughly 9 million in 1860, 3 million of those slaves
Rivals of your nation: United States of America
Goals of your nation: Independence from the United States of America and the creation of the South as a distinct cultural, political and diplomatic entity on the world stage; recognition of the CSA by major world powers; the preservation of the economic base of the South (slavery)
Chance of a revolution or rebellion: low (around 10%) as slaves have already been emancipated by Abraham Lincoln; these are not considered rebels, but enemy combatants and the military and political situation prevents much rebellion
National anthem: God Save the South

Military numbers at the start of the war: 1 million men and numerous militia groups (all in the United States); historical figures are inexact due to lack of documentation
Leader of the military: General Robert E. Lee
Uniform and armament of your nations infantry, cavalry, sailors and artillery: various arms, mostly the same as Union arms (perhaps slightly older) but with some imported British models and European guns brought by volunteers or smuggled through the blockades and uniforms, usually cadet gray jackets, blue or gray trousers but also homespun uniforms due to lack of central provisioning; cavalry wear cadet gray; gray caps and slouch hats
Strenghts and weaknesses (You must have both): Excellent military command, home advantage (know the terrain of the fighting); higher levels of training and accuracy with guns due to the rural backgrounds of most soldiers; high fighting spirit; outnumbered troops; few supplies; lack of even basic necessities such as shoes; lower quality equipment than Union soldiers; spread out units fighting over a non-contiguous area; Confederate loss of the Mississippi; poor strategic situation with reversals on almost all fronts; lack of transport for troops; lack of ammunition; very few ships and Union dominance of the ocean and rivers running through the Confederacy; blockade of Texas and the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea ports by the Union and the loss of New Orleans, blocking a crucial commercial artery for cotton
Speciality of your nations army (May have 2): High accuracy soldiers and sharpshooters; higher morale than normal
Main Military March(es): The Bonnie Blue Flag; Dixie

[Austria and Bavaria]

"Bavaria will lend herself to this cause, however, we cannot deny the possibility that our material support will not be enough. The Confederate States of America is blockaded by the United States Navy, while the Poles, despite their will to fight, have seen many setbacks in recent times. We will need come up with an in-depth plan for breaking the Union blockade of the American South. We should send an ultimatum to the United States of America that they shall cease and desist in their blockades and raiding of commerce coming from unaligned European states and those of the Confederation. I also move that this Diet recognize the Confederate States of America as a legitimate nation. We should also demand that they withdraw from Northern Mexico and cease any and all military or civilian support for the ruffians, vagabonds, and brigands under the control of the so-called Mexican President Benito Juarez. It should be noted that these rebels are opposing the enthronement of Maximilian Ferdinand, a member of the self-same esteemed House of Habsburg, to which the prestigious member of this assembly Franz Joseph of Austria belongs. This ultimatum, if accepted, will further our goals and help distract the United States and its considerable military and economic might from interests in Europe, while also helping to ensure the French remain neutral in this broadening conflict. This, I am sure, is something all of us can agree upon.

The King returned to his chair and prepared to hear the Coalition's responses.

CSA supported Maximilian. It was the US that aided Juarez.

[Deutsch Preussen]

Apologies for my time between posts, pretty busy but still finding time.

[Grothmogia]

"Bavaria will lend herself to this cause, however, we cannot deny the possibility that our material support will not be enough. The Confederate States of America is blockaded by the United States Navy, while the Poles, despite their will to fight, have seen many setbacks in recent times. We will need come up with an in-depth plan for breaking the Union blockade of the American South. We should send an ultimatum to the United States of America that they shall cease and desist in their blockades and raiding of commerce coming from unaligned European states and those of the Confederation. I also move that this Diet recognize the Confederate States of America as a legitimate nation. We should also demand that they withdraw from Northern Mexico and cease any and all military or civilian support for the ruffians, vagabonds, and brigands under the control of the so-called Mexican President Benito Juarez. It should be noted that these rebels are opposing the enthronement of Maximilian Ferdinand, a member of the self-same esteemed House of Habsburg, to which the prestigious member of this assembly Franz Joseph of Austria belongs. This ultimatum, if accepted, will further our goals and help distract the United States and its considerable military and economic might from interests in Europe, while also helping to ensure the French remain neutral in this broadening conflict. This, I am sure, is something all of us can agree upon.

CSA supported Maximilian. It was the US that aided Juarez.
The King returned to his chair and prepared to hear the Coalition's responses.

I know. That is why I am calling Juarez's government a bunch of rebels. I will clarify, though. Thank you for bringing that up.