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Postby Finland SSR » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:21 pm

Obviously, the only truly interesting option is a 4th Baltic State. Near the geographical center of Europe. Sandwitched between Russia, Scandinavia and the EU. Flashpoint of political crises and interesting events. Quite versatile in political ideologies, stable economy and culture. Very interesting, in my humble opinion.

And if you need any help with history or anything, I can surely provide it.
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Postby Skeckoa » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:24 pm

I second what was said before about having a nationstate with a clear ethnic group. Lots of the fun of Aurentina was the fact that it was its own language and culture with a freaking language. That was sick.

Because, kind of annoyingly, we end up using a shitton of immigrant senators.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:41 pm

Ikania wrote:
Argentarino wrote:I think a Black Sea idea would be very good. We would probably have a nation with a long, rich history, centered around a number of conflicts, as well as dealing with various issues such as Russia and maybe even the Syrian refugee problem, not to mention the inevitable ethnic and religious conflict. Alternatively, there could be a Middle Eastern scenario, though I am sure many would be cautious to enter into that kind of scenario.

The only reason I'd ever hold back on an Arab country is because people would RP outside the character of the region. We can't have gay marriage and a welfare state in the Gulf of Persia for God's sake. In Arabia they don't debate about gay marriage, they debate about punishment for being homosexual. We'd have to strictly enforce realism rules to ensure people wouldn't break character for the Muslim world, and that would be no fun.

And we know from Baltonia that enforcing realism isn't fun.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:29 am

Maklohi Vai wrote:And we know from Baltonia that enforcing realism isn't fun.


But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:51 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:And we know from Baltonia that enforcing realism isn't fun.


But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

Don't worry I am gonna create a cult in this new state we make.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:56 am

CTALNH wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

Don't worry I am gonna create a cult in this new state we make.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:59 am

CTALNH wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

Don't worry I am gonna create a cult in this new state we make.


Do you want me to bring your cult some Kool Aid?
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:01 am

Beta Test wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Don't worry I am gonna create a cult in this new state we make.

:clap:

Pedophilia,sacred prostitution and ritualized incest.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:04 am

Ikania wrote:
Argentarino wrote:I think a Black Sea idea would be very good. We would probably have a nation with a long, rich history, centered around a number of conflicts, as well as dealing with various issues such as Russia and maybe even the Syrian refugee problem, not to mention the inevitable ethnic and religious conflict. Alternatively, there could be a Middle Eastern scenario, though I am sure many would be cautious to enter into that kind of scenario.

The only reason I'd ever hold back on an Arab country is because people would RP outside the character of the region. We can't have gay marriage and a welfare state in the Gulf of Persia for God's sake. In Arabia they don't debate about gay marriage, they debate about punishment for being homosexual. We'd have to strictly enforce realism rules to ensure people wouldn't break character for the Muslim world, and that would be no fun.

Oh, for fuck's sakes. I've said it before, I'll say it again. 95% of this RP is controlled by about 15 people. These people are the leaders of the parties, dictate policy, call votes, write most of the legislation, do most of the other RPing. And those people, I'm sure, can be trusted to be reasonably realistic if need be. We've had social liberalism because Europe and Latin America can realistically accommodate that. I don't think any of the actives will be making stuff like that in an Arab country, not if we discuss why we shouldn't.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:08 am

Anyway, my proposal is either a country centered around the Himalayas, incorporating parts of Nepal, India, and Tibet, or a group of islands below Africa, near Antarctica.

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Postby Finland SSR » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:12 am

I'm still clinging onto the Baltic.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby World Anarchic Union » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:15 am

What about a Central European country during the Cold War, next to the Iron Curtain? This was suggested by someone else before, but I find it a good idea.
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Postby Davincia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:21 am

Considering how NSG is unilaterally leftist, having the next location be in Southeast Asia gives plenty of RP opportunities. Especially if we place it during (or after) the Vietnam War. We'd have to juggle between keeping out Chinese and American influence.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:27 am

Davincia wrote:Considering how NSG is unilaterally leftist, having the next location be in Southeast Asia gives plenty of RP opportunities. Especially if we place it during (or after) the Vietnam War. We'd have to juggle between keeping out Chinese and American influence.

And Indian. ;)

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Postby Not a Bang but a Whimper » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:41 am

Let's just do all of them.
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Postby The Sarian » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:06 am

CTALNH wrote:
Beta Test wrote: :clap:

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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:12 am

Skeckoa wrote:I second what was said before about having a nationstate with a clear ethnic group. Lots of the fun of Aurentina was the fact that it was its own language and culture with a freaking language. That was sick.

Because, kind of annoyingly, we end up using a shitton of immigrant senators.


I will third this though if we go down that path, we are going to need to develop it from the very beginning before we restart.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:36 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:And we know from Baltonia that enforcing realism isn't fun.


But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

That's nothing to do with the setting, but to do with the people. We could rp in the centre of Africa, or the middle East, and it'd still probably end up as a solidly left wing Social Democratic welfare state, assuming the imbalances are the same as Calverde.

But really, Aurentina was more balanced, and the right won a lot of elections. I don't have the statistics of which coalition won more, but It was pretty balanced if I can remember correctly, and when the left did win it was because of the backing of the ancient centre-right Prog-Cons.

Balatonia wasn't left wing dominated, it was dominated by "moderate parties". Every party that was centre-right, centre-left and centrist all grouped up together to create some shitty grand Centrist coalition, leaving the far-lefties and far-righties alone.
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Postby New Werpland » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:10 am

I for one think another Baltic state could provide an interesting setting with many possibilities.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:23 am

Dejanic wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

That's nothing to do with the setting, but to do with the people. We could rp in the centre of Africa, or the middle East, and it'd still probably end up as a solidly left wing Social Democratic welfare state, assuming the imbalances are the same as Calverde.

But really, Aurentina was more balanced, and the right won a lot of elections. I don't have the statistics of which coalition won more, but It was pretty balanced if I can remember correctly, and when the left did win it was because of the backing of the ancient centre-right Prog-Cons.

Balatonia wasn't left wing dominated, it was dominated by "moderate parties". Every party that was centre-right, centre-left and centrist all grouped up together to create some shitty grand Centrist coalition, leaving the far-lefties and far-righties alone.

The left and the right won an equal amount of Aurentina's presidential elections, if I remember correctly.
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Postby Ikania » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:54 am

what about






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Postby Kisinger » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:29 am

I think the Baltic or the Balkans would be good.
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Postby New Waterford » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:34 am

Dejanic wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
But going from one continuous liberal welfare state to another is?

That's nothing to do with the setting, but to do with the people. We could rp in the centre of Africa, or the middle East, and it'd still probably end up as a solidly left wing Social Democratic welfare state, assuming the imbalances are the same as Calverde.

But really, Aurentina was more balanced, and the right won a lot of elections. I don't have the statistics of which coalition won more, but It was pretty balanced if I can remember correctly, and when the left did win it was because of the backing of the ancient centre-right Prog-Cons.

Balatonia wasn't left wing dominated, it was dominated by "moderate parties". Every party that was centre-right, centre-left and centrist all grouped up together to create some shitty grand Centrist coalition, leaving the far-lefties and far-righties alone.

We'll need to have more people RPing as members of parties which differ from their OOC political views in order to keep things interesting.

I will RP as a far-right senator in the next iteration of the Senate, for one.
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Postby Malgrave » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:31 pm

I'm rather sick and tired of hearing the argument that the left-wing killed Calaverde when in reality any perceived dominance was caused by a fractured (and at latter stages inactive) right-wing.
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Postby The Sarian » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:38 pm

Malgrave wrote:I'm rather sick and tired of hearing the argument that the left-wing killed Calaverde when in reality any perceived dominance was caused by a fractured (and at latter stages inactive) right-wing.

Well, you're going to say that aren't you.
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