NSG Senate Lobby: What Does Marcellus Wallace Look Like?

[Heraklea-]

Me, Glasgia and Osea 767 are the three sitting CC members.

Hasn't Osea been inactive for a while?

No

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I'm inaugurating a new political discussion show. First episode was very humorous. It is rather long but it was worth it.

[Britanno 2]

Me, Glasgia and Osea 767 are the three sitting CC members.

I just picked the most active one.

[Ainin]

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Ministerial Decree re: Parliamentary Police
Author: The Hon. Pierre Desjardins MP, Minister of the Interior
To: All civil servants under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of the Interior

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All officials with the capacity and standing to do so are ordered to immediately cease the detention of any individual put under arrest or otherwise confined to imprisonment or detention by parliamentary police services in the past week.

Pierre Desjardins
Minister of the Interior

Salvador O'Hara
Prime Minister

[Supreme Court of Calaverde]

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We the Court,

After considering the case Kenneth Diaz versus Parliament of Calaverde, also known by the case docket number SC-002, have reached a series of conclusions based on the circumstances of the case. The facts of the case were not presented during the duration of the hearings, as they only served to establish constitutional importance and jurisdiction, two key factors in whether this Court would accept the case or not. The following facts were considered in our ruling:

• Section 2 of the "Jurisdiction and Venue" article of the original complaint in Diaz v. Republic justifies the presentation of the case in front of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Calaverde by stating that "The Supreme Court of Calaverde have jurisdiction over this lawsuit because of the pursuant legislation's constitutional importance."
• This information is likely based on the plaintiff counsel's interpretation of Subsection 3.2a of the National Judiciary Act, which reads "The Supreme Court is the court of final instance for all cases unless specified otherwise, and be the court of both first and final instance for statutory interpretation and reference cases relating to national law."
• Subsection 7.1a of the aforementioned Act reads "Any ruling by an administrative court may be appealed to the High Court of Appeal and then to the Supreme Court".
• Section 7 of the aforementioned Act defines administrative court as "non-legislative executive and judicial bodies that impose punitive measures or attempt to order the national government to commit an act against its will, that are not superior courts".
• The aforementioned Act defines Court of Final Instance as "any court from which a decision cannot be further appealed and whose set precedents overrule all others on the matter".
• The aforementioned Act defines Superior court as "any court with usual jurisdiction over the entirety of the nation".
• The Speaker of the Parliament of the Republic of Calaverde imposed a punitive measure on the plaintiff and other individuals mentioned in the complaint, explicitly and implicitly.
• The cases Lamb v. Camden LBC and Hughes v. Metropolitan Railway Company are cited as precedent under English common law by the plaintiff.

Upon the facts listed immediately above, the justices of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Calaverde have arrived to a consensus and have established the following conclusions based on Calaverdean and common law jurisprudence, the letter and spirit of relevant legislation and the complaint issued by the plaintiff and his counsel.

• Plaintiff, as sitting member of the Parliament of Calaverde, was directly affected by the rulings of the Speaker, and has standing to sue.
• The Speaker of the Parliament of the Republic of Calaverde does fit the definition of administrative court due to their exercise of punitive measures, such as removal from the chamber and revocation of speaking rights.
• The Speaker of the Parliament of the Republic of Calaverde is subject to the procedure detailed in Section 7 of the National Judiciary Act, since the Court has earlier determined that the Speaker is an administrative court.
• Section 7 of the aforementioned Act concurs with the plaintiff's right to sue in order to seek reparations and overturning of ruling, since the Court has earlier determined that the plaintiff has standing to sue and that the Speaker is an administrative court.
• Subsection 7.1 of the aforementioned Act clearly states that the case must be first heard in front of the High Court of Appeals, and then may be appealed to the Supreme Court.
• Subsection 3.2a only references statutory interpretation and reference cases, as clearly defined by Sections 9 and 10 of the aforementioned Act, respectively, and therefore does not provide plaintiff with standing.
• The act of bringing this case to the High Court of Appeals was not done.
• The Supreme Court of Calaverde therefore has no jurisdiction over the case.

Based on these findings, the Supreme Court of the Republic of Calaverde invokes its constitutional right under Subsection 3.2f, Clause ii of the aforementioned Act, and DISMISSES the case Kenneth Diaz versus Parliament of Calaverde (SC-002) without prejudice.

The Court
18 April 2015

[Osea 767]

Me, Glasgia and Osea 767 are the three sitting CC members.

I just picked the most active one.

What about putting multiple names in that section or WA Central Committee, since it leads the party as a collective body?

[Britanno 2]

What about putting multiple names in that section or WA Central Committee, since it leads the party as a collective body?

Sure, but I just made the original formatting so it's out my hands now

[Ainin]

I just forced prison guards to release their prisoners and the Supreme Court just threw out a lawsuit against Nihil, but no one seems to care >_<

[Maklohi Vai]

I just forced prison guards to release their prisoners and the Supreme Court just threw out a lawsuit against Nihil, but no one seems to care >_<

They need a tl;dr of the SC text probably.

[Ainin]

Appeals of administrative court decisions go to the High Court of Appeals first, so the plaintiffs dun goofed by filing the lawsuit at the Supreme Court. So the Supreme Court doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it and as such dismisses it.

The tl;dr.

[Great Nepal]

Appeals of administrative court decisions go to the High Court of Appeals first, so the plaintiffs dun goofed by filing the lawsuit at the Supreme Court. So the Supreme Court doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it and as such dismisses it.

The tl;dr.

...our supreme court works real slow...

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Is this RP really worth carrying forward, in all honesty?

I mean, I know activity will pick up plenty during the summer. But in the long run. If we're going to go days without a single post on half of our threads? Debate isn't constant and swirling? The opposition is nowhere near equal to the government? This is just sad.

I'm not saying I'm leaving. I'm saying it might be time to think about letting the NSG Senate die. It had an amazing run; but it might be over, for now.

[Arkolon]

Is this RP really worth carrying forward, in all honesty?

I mean, I know activity will pick up plenty during the summer. But in the long run. If we're going to go days without a single post on half of our threads? Debate isn't constant and swirling? The opposition is nowhere near equal to the government? This is just sad.

I'm not saying I'm leaving. I'm saying it might be time to think about letting the NSG Senate die. It had an amazing run; but it might be over, for now.

Too early. NSG only dies if people think it will die. NSG will not die. With the Reform Party and New Democrats setting up, and with our Speaker soon to be elected, the NSGS is just turning a whole new page. I'm ready to do this. Fun awaits.

[Battlion]

Is this RP really worth carrying forward, in all honesty?

I mean, I know activity will pick up plenty during the summer. But in the long run. If we're going to go days without a single post on half of our threads? Debate isn't constant and swirling? The opposition is nowhere near equal to the government? This is just sad.

I'm not saying I'm leaving. I'm saying it might be time to think about letting the NSG Senate die. It had an amazing run; but it might be over, for now.

Activity is just picking up :/

Not every thread needs posting in, debate will begin again once the speaker stuff out the way and we get a decent speaker and if the Opposition isn't equal to the government then it should get recruiting or try something new.

Just saying "I'm going to throw the towel in" isn't the answer.

[Battlion]

Appeals of administrative court decisions go to the High Court of Appeals first, so the plaintiffs dun goofed by filing the lawsuit at the Supreme Court. So the Supreme Court doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it and as such dismisses it.

The tl;dr.

...our supreme court works real slow...

Agreed, this needs changing

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Is this RP really worth carrying forward, in all honesty?

I mean, I know activity will pick up plenty during the summer. But in the long run. If we're going to go days without a single post on half of our threads? Debate isn't constant and swirling? The opposition is nowhere near equal to the government? This is just sad.

I'm not saying I'm leaving. I'm saying it might be time to think about letting the NSG Senate die. It had an amazing run; but it might be over, for now.

What are you on about. Activity is really good right now.

[Ainin]

Appeals of administrative court decisions go to the High Court of Appeals first, so the plaintiffs dun goofed by filing the lawsuit at the Supreme Court. So the Supreme Court doesn't have the jurisdiction to hear it and as such dismisses it.

The tl;dr.

...our supreme court works real slow...

The US Supreme Court took 3 years to reach the same decision in Hollingsworth v. Perry

[Britanno 2]

What are you on about. Activity is really good right now.

I agree that activity is good right now, and that we probably can't expect much better, but I always I have that thought in my head of "this isn't what it once was". I'm normally the one saying the senate will die, and I'm not saying that, but I always compare this to, say, the last weeks of Wolf's presidency.

[New Zepuha]

This is why the parliamentary police needs to be removed from the speaker.

[Great Nepal]

...our supreme court works real slow...

The US Supreme Court took 3 years to reach the same decision in Hollingsworth v. Perry

We are setting US are our benchmark for legislative diligence and efficiency now?
On more serious note though, fair enough decision although I personally saw it as challenge on speaker's right to actually impose regulations because no primary legislation allows it...

[Battlion]

The US Supreme Court took 3 years to reach the same decision in Hollingsworth v. Perry

We are setting US are our benchmark for legislative diligence and efficiency now?
On more serious note though, fair enough decision although I personally saw it as challenge on speaker's right to actually impose regulations because no primary legislation allows it...

It was thrown out on a technicality :/

Probably would have been a fun case otherwise

[New Zepuha]

Remember. The US supreme court once said that blacks were not even human. Or so the chief justice at the time wrote in his official ruling on the Dredd Scott decision

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What are you on about. Activity is really good right now.

I agree that activity is good right now, and that we probably can't expect much better, but I always I have that thought in my head of "this isn't what it once was". I'm normally the one saying the senate will die, and I'm not saying that, but I always compare this to, say, the last weeks of Wolf's presidency.

We have to be honest with ourselves that activity will most likely never reach the delirious heights of early to mid Aurentina. Nonetheless, activity is good and stable, it's better than it ever was in Baltonia and in the last couple of months of Aurentina. There's plenty of stuff going on. Calaverde's got a long while left, I think.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

What are you on about. Activity is really good right now.

I agree that activity is good right now, and that we probably can't expect much better, but I always I have that thought in my head of "this isn't what it once was". I'm normally the one saying the senate will die, and I'm not saying that, but I always compare this to, say, the last weeks of Wolf's presidency.

I guess we have different definitions of "good." I'm thinking, the Mafia's Golden Age in Aurentina. That was good activity. This is shit.

[Lykens]

I agree that activity is good right now, and that we probably can't expect much better, but I always I have that thought in my head of "this isn't what it once was". I'm normally the one saying the senate will die, and I'm not saying that, but I always compare this to, say, the last weeks of Wolf's presidency.

I guess we have different definitions of "good." I'm thinking, the Mafia's Golden Age in Aurentina. That was good activity. This is shit.

Then why are you still here?