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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:17 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Oh your flags look really similar.


Mea culpa.

But yes, I will be issuing a reprisal statement this afternoon, the string of disproportionate Gendarmerie activity is becoming unacceptable.
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:19 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
Mea culpa.

But yes, I will be issuing a reprisal statement this afternoon, the string of disproportionate Gendarmerie activity is becoming unacceptable.

What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:20 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Oh your flags look really similar.


Mea culpa.

How's it your fault?
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Postby Mishmahig » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:22 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
Mea culpa.

How's it your fault?


Didn't clarify the situation initially when the confusion occurred.

Kouralia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:But yes, I will be issuing a reprisal statement this afternoon, the string of disproportionate Gendarmerie activity is becoming unacceptable.

What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.


For me, it's the national television part.

Any chance I can get a clip of the pepper-spraying to show at parties?

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:24 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
Kouralia wrote:What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.


For me, it's the national television part.

Any chance I can get a clip of the pepper-spraying to show at parties?

The Gendarme by the door shrugged.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:24 pm

Kouralia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:But yes, I will be issuing a reprisal statement this afternoon, the string of disproportionate Gendarmerie activity is becoming unacceptable.

What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.

hardly enough to embarass me and my entire staff infront of the entire nation. The Gendarmerie has a history of heavy handedness like this. Such as harassing NIB agents, taking two APCs to bring an old man in for questioning, and this bollocking in the chamber. Not to mention the gross manner in which they conduct themselves. Citizens should be able to trust the police not fear them.
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Postby Mediciano » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:24 pm

Kouralia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:But yes, I will be issuing a reprisal statement this afternoon, the string of disproportionate Gendarmerie activity is becoming unacceptable.

What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.

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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:25 pm

OOC: I have been out of loop for while, do we have threads for civil courts?
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:27 pm

Swanderfeld wrote:OOC: I have been out of loop for while, do we have threads for civil courts?

Just request a case before the courts and I will set one up for you.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:28 pm

It's only a bit of mace. The senator is lucky it was not a taser or a bullet trying to get away from three gendarmes like that.
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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:28 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Swanderfeld wrote:OOC: I have been out of loop for while, do we have threads for civil courts?

Just request a case before the courts and I will set one up for you.

Aright, thanks.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:29 pm

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New Zepuha wrote:Just request a case before the courts and I will set one up for you.

Aright, thanks.

So I presume you are going to sue the Gendarmerie or just the three Gendarmes?
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:30 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Kouralia wrote:What string of disproportionate Gendarme activity?

One arrest for terrorism-related charges: following which the arrestee proceeds to escape from custody, and is lucky he's not being re-arrested for that? And one where someone strong enough to throw off three adult males while restrained in handcuffs gets pepper sprayed?

Come on, really: other law enforcement agencies have done far worse things and been ignored.

hardly enough to embarass me and my entire staff infront of the entire nation. The Gendarmerie has a history of heavy handedness like this. Such as harassing NIB agents, taking two APCs to bring an old man in for questioning,

Sorry, you are aware that the NIB agents in question:
A) invented a crime
B) pointed loaded weapons at unarmed journalists
C) Kidnapped, assaulted and illegally held a journalist.
This is after a Gendarmerie initiative managed to quieten and calm the crowd down from near-rioting levels, and you then proceeded to launch tear gas and begin truncheoning them, further exacerbating it.
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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:30 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Swanderfeld wrote:Aright, thanks.

So I presume you are going to sue the Gendarmerie or just the three Gendarmes?

OOC: Just the three Gendarmes, going to bankrupt them by spending far more money on lawyers then I would get from them. :twisted:Actually I might go against whole thing under principle of vicarious liability unless Gendarmes fire everyone involved.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:33 pm

Kouralia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:hardly enough to embarass me and my entire staff infront of the entire nation. The Gendarmerie has a history of heavy handedness like this. Such as harassing NIB agents, taking two APCs to bring an old man in for questioning,

Sorry, you are aware that the NIB agents in question:
A) invented a crime
B) pointed loaded weapons at unarmed journalists
C) Kidnapped, assaulted and illegally held a journalist.
This is after a Gendarmerie initiative managed to quieten and calm the crowd down from near-rioting levels, and you then proceeded to launch tear gas and begin truncheoning them, further exacerbating it.

Hardly. The Gendarmerie were acting like baffoons.
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Postby Mediciano » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:33 pm

Kouralia wrote:This is after a Gendarmerie initiative managed to quieten and calm the crowd down from near-rioting levels, and you then proceeded to launch tear gas and begin truncheoning them, further exacerbating it.

...and how well did that Gendarme initiative work? Part of the blame lies with your organization.

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:35 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Kouralia wrote:This is after a Gendarmerie initiative managed to quieten and calm the crowd down from near-rioting levels, and you then proceeded to launch tear gas and begin truncheoning them, further exacerbating it.

...and how well did that Gendarme initiative work? Part of the blame lies with your organization.

It worked perfectly. They went from near-rioting levels, to calmly lining up for pizza from the Gendarmerie VM90 that was playing 'the sound of the police'. In about thirty seconds.

How do you imagine they might have gone about it any better?

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Kouralia wrote:Sorry, you are aware that the NIB agents in question:
A) invented a crime
B) pointed loaded weapons at unarmed journalists
C) Kidnapped, assaulted and illegally held a journalist.
This is after a Gendarmerie initiative managed to quieten and calm the crowd down from near-rioting levels, and you then proceeded to launch tear gas and begin truncheoning them, further exacerbating it.

Hardly. The Gendarmerie were acting like baffoons.

Oh, but they got results until you intervened. What did you get? Hundreds arrested or hospitalised for injuries sustained while being arrested.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:38 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:...and how well did that Gendarme initiative work? Part of the blame lies with your organization.

It worked perfectly. They went from near-rioting levels, to calmly lining up for pizza from the Gendarmerie VM90 that was playing 'the sound of the police'. In about thirty seconds.

How do you imagine they might have gone about it any better?

New Zepuha wrote:Hardly. The Gendarmerie were acting like baffoons.

Oh, but they got results until you intervened. What did you get? Hundreds arrested or hospitalised for injuries sustained while being arrested.

The objective was to remove them from the streets. I'd say it went well.
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:39 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Kouralia wrote:It worked perfectly. They went from near-rioting levels, to calmly lining up for pizza from the Gendarmerie VM90 that was playing 'the sound of the police'. In about thirty seconds.

How do you imagine they might have gone about it any better?


Oh, but they got results until you intervened. What did you get? Hundreds arrested or hospitalised for injuries sustained while being arrested.

The objective was to remove them from the streets. I'd say it went well.

Have you tried them yet?

Or are they all still in gaol?
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:40 pm

Kouralia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:The objective was to remove them from the streets. I'd say it went well.

Have you tried them yet?

Or are they all still in gaol?

They were all released after 24 hours. No need to waste the CPS time with a bunch of miscreants.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:53 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Have you tried them yet?

Or are they all still in gaol?

They were all released after 24 hours. No need to waste the CPS time with a bunch of miscreants.

"Child Protective Services"
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Postby Ainin » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:55 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:They were all released after 24 hours. No need to waste the CPS time with a bunch of miscreants.

"Child Protective Services"

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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:58 pm

Ainin wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:"Child Protective Services"

Commonwealth Prosecution Service

I know, it's just that the acronym confuses me due to the connotation that it usually has.
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