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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:10 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Is there a world gun rights day? or world anti-tax day? I'm starting those.

Remember, remember the fifth of November. Anyone?

Guy Fawkes Night?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:13 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Is there a world gun rights day? or world anti-tax day? I'm starting those.

Remember, remember the fifth of November. Anyone?

The fifth of November is also National Doughnut Day in the US. :p
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Postby Belmaria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:14 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Remember, remember the fifth of November. Anyone?

Guy Faux Night?

I read somewhere that November 5th is international anti-government day (but I don't recall where). It is in relation to Guy Faukes, but the modern holiday doesn't have anything to do with celebrating the attack. It's more of a general anti-statist day.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:14 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Remember, remember the fifth of November. Anyone?

Guy Faux Night?

Fawkes, not Faux.
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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Guy Faux Night?

Fawkes, not Faux.

Yea. I just realized I wrote that. I feel stupid. :palm:
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Guy Faux Night?

Fawkes, not Faux.


He just committed a Faux pas! :rofl:

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:15 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Guy Faux Night?

I read somewhere that November 5th is international anti-government day (but I don't recall where). It is in relation to Guy Faux, but the modern holiday doesn't have anything to do with celebrating the attack. It's more of a general anti-statist day.

It has nothing to do with anti-statism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night
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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:15 pm

The Prince Of Shadows wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Fawkes, not Faux.


He just committed a Faux pas! :rofl:

:lol2:
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Postby Castille de Italia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:38 pm

I vote AYE on removing Dragomere's Senator from the Senate.
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Postby Dragomere » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:40 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:I vote AYE on removing Dragomere's Senator from the Senate.

Your Medicano's puppet aren't you?
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Postby East Ormania » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:46 pm

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Castille de Italia wrote:I vote AYE on removing Dragomere's Senator from the Senate.

Your Medicano's puppet aren't you?

Nope.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:55 pm

Let's take this puppeteer nonsense out of the chamber please.


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Postby Chelta » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:57 pm

If the vote on the expulson of Dragomere is still on, I vote NO.


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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:03 pm

Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?
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New Bierstaat wrote:Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?


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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:05 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?

I would assume 51%
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Postby Corenea » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:06 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?

I think 80%?
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:07 pm

Corenea wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?

I think 80%?


90%
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:07 pm

No your all wrong. it's 90.

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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:08 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:No your all wrong. it's 90.

What exactly did he do? (This is why I haven't voted)
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Postby Dragomere » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:08 pm

Corenea wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Question: what percentage of yes votes do they have to get in order to expel Drago?

I think 80%?

90% actually according to what the admins said earlier in this thread.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:11 pm

Dragomere wrote:
Corenea wrote:I think 80%?

90% actually according to what the admins said earlier in this thread.


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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:13 pm

*admin*

Second Constitution of the Senate sets it at 90% in favour.
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:06 pm

Goodbye, loopholes!

Judicial Omnibus Act
An act to amend the Judicial Act, Correctional Services Act, State of Emergency Act, and Limiting Legislation Act.
Author: Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS: Order | Urgency: Low
Sponsors: Dragomere [USLP], New Zepuha [NDP], Geilinor [NDP], Neo Rome Republic [NDP], Maklohi Vai [NDP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Affirming that a judicial system lacking the power to interpret legislation is slow and inefficient,

Proclaiming that suspects of minor crimes at low risk of fleeing should have the right to be granted bail prior to their trial,

Realising that the State of Emergency Act does not include any provisions to increase the powers of law enforcement during a national emergency,

Hereby enacts the following sections as the Judicial Omnibus Act of 2013, as tabled by Prime Minister Alexander Ainin [NDP, Const. 299]:

The Anti-Loopholes Act is struck out and rendered null and void.
Person is defined as an entity prosecutable by law.
Actual person is defined as a member of the homo sapiens family.
Frivolous case is defined as a lawsuit that is purposely meant to be insufficiently supported.

Second Amendment to the Judicial Act
The following section shall be added to the Judicial Act:
Statutory Interpretation
14a. In case the terms of a passed law are unclear or otherwise prone to confusing, the Ministry of Justice, or an individual actual person, may request a hearing for judicial interpretation from the Supreme Court of Aurentina. If the court judges the case not to be frivolous, it shall convene, and interpret the meaning of specific parts of a bill, taking into account, by order of importance (from most to least):
  1. Noscitur a sociis: the context within the rest of the bill
  2. Author Intent: The intended meaning, to be declared by the author of the law in question under oath to a court of law
  3. Plain meaning: The generally-accepted meaning of a word
First Amendment to the Correctional Services Act
The following clauses shall be added to the Correctional Services Act:
Any actual person suspected of a misdemeanour, delict or felony charged, but not convicted, may request to exit incarceration for a judge-given amount of time, by depositing an amount of money up to £1,000,000, at the discretion of a judge depending on the severity of the offence. At the end of the trial, the person shall be returned the money. The courts shall not grant bail to persons that
  1. Have resources capable of escaping Aurentine jurisdiction
  2. May be harmed by the public for particularly horrendous crimes of a violent or sexual nature
  3. Are at a high risk of reoffending while free
Failure to return at the end of the bail period is failure to comply, a delict.
Attempting, whether successfully or not, to exit the country while on bail without permission from a judge acting in an official capability is aggravated failure to comply, a felony.

Third Amendment to the Criminal Code of the Aurentine Commonwealth
The resisting arrest offence is expanded to include fines.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:08 pm

That also brings up the end of the current vote.


The motion fails to carry. Debate on the last section of DD may now start up again. I will post how long there is in a second.
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