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Libertarian Party of Aurentina
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Welcome to the Libertarian Party of Aurentina! This party supports libertarian philosophies and is currently the most active right-wing party in the Senate.

The party advocates not only for a movement toward laissez-faire capitalism, but for overall smaller government. We are still the only party that has proposed a budget, and our active leadership can often be seen writing and sponsoring bills as well as debating them on the Senate floor.

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Senate Applications Thread: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=244924
Senate FAQ: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=260019
Senate Coffee Shop: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=252128
Senate Lobby: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=252408
Senate Chamber: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=254861
Our IRC: http://webchat.esper.net/?nick=&channels=AFC
Opposition Thread: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=257984
Freedom Coalition: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=260967
Aurentine Firearms Rights Organization: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=256336&p=15982046

NOTE: The party chair and vice-chair reserve the right to remove any poster and/or retcon anything that happens in this thread.
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PLATFORM

Free Speech:
Libertarians advocate absolute free speech, and believe that the state has no right to restrict it at all. Libertarians are against "Hate Speech" laws, or any laws that legislate "politically correct" forms of speech.

Economics:
We believe in a lassiez faire type of capitalist system, in which regulations are minimal at most in order to create a more efficient Aurentine economy. We also believe that taxes should be kept as low as possible or eliminated.

Education:
We believe the free market should play a role in the education system, which would allow for greater quality, accountability, efficiency, and more diverse in choice. Parents should have control of and the responsibility for all the funds expended for their children's education and pick the education they deem best for their children.

Healthcare:
We believe individuals have the right to choose any health insurance along with their care provider, medicine and treatment they use, and other aspects of their medical care, but also recognize that an individual has the right not to purchase health insurance. We also believe the free market should play a role to insure competition to lower rates as government hinders competition.

Drugs:
The Libertarian Party of Aurentina supports most forms of drug decriminalization and legalization.

Energy:
Libertarians believe in an "all of the above" energy policy. We recognize the need to further develop renewable energy technologies; however, at the same time, we feel that it would it would be a waste to let the world's vast remaining fossil fuel reserves to go unused. We support the increased use of nuclear energy and natural gas. We do not, however, support state-run or subsidized energy systems.

Environment:
Libertarians acknowledge protection of the environment as a worthy goal, but we believe that the environmental movement has gone too far. We are uncompromisingly opposed to any "cap and trade" program. We support a removal of the various environmental obstacles to new development that have slowed growth in recent years. We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that many parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.

Property Rights:
We believe property rights are entitled to the same protection as all other human rights. We believe that owners of property have the right to control, use, dispose of, or in any manner to enjoy their property without interference. We are oppose to eminent domain, whether by the government or private.

Justice:
We believe that justice system should treat everyone equally. We support habeas corpus as everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We are oppose to ex-post facto laws and guilt by association. We also believe judges should be held more accountable and less use of arbitrary with tort reform.

Welfare:
The Libertarian Party believes that the current welfare state is completely unnecessary for the Aurentine people and that it would be better for both the people and the economy if it were significantly reduced in size or eliminated.

Abortion:
We acknowledge that abortion is a personal choice that should be left to the moral decision of the mother and not the government. We oppose public funding of abortion clinics.

Guns:
We are opposed to gun control, which prevents law-abiding citizens from obtaining weapons as oppose to criminals who can obtain them easily. We support Stand Your Ground laws and concealed carry laws.

Marriage:
Libertarians are supportive of all human rights. We do not support government involvement in marriage.

Defense:
Libertarians oppose public intervention, particularly in hot spots such as the middle east, unless there is any immediate threat to do so. We support keeping a small well rounded military for defense.

Privacy:
We are against mass public state surveillance and national DNA databases of our citizens.[/quote]
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:35 pm

Can I post now?

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Nice. I like the logo, although to be fair I thought I was in the Progress Coalition's thread at first! I also see you took my advice. My only nitpick is that I'll not be maintaining the Freedom Coalition and prefer if the LCP would become somewhat autonomous, but if we still need it than I'll bump it.

Anyway party time! *NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUN LAWS HERE*

Also: If you are a former LFP member please request your name to be added to the list!
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Postby Skeckoa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:36 pm

A new beginning! The air is cleaner and the future is bright... and right (Hopefully)
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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:40 pm

Minarchist States wrote:Can I post now?

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Nice. I like the logo, although to be fair I thought I was in the Progress Coalition's thread at first! I also see you took my advice. My only nitpick is that I'll not be maintaining the Freedom Coalition and prefer if the LCP would become somewhat autonomous, but if we still need it than I'll bump it.

Anyway party time! *NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUN LAWS HERE*

Indeed, and as per the OP, I'm giving you the power to remove people from the thread if you deem it necessary.

We can kill the FC as far as I'm concerned. If we end up in another coalition, we can make a new thread.

The logo is intended to provide at a quick glance the information that we are right-wing, Libertarian, and capitalist.
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:42 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:Can I post now?

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Nice. I like the logo, although to be fair I thought I was in the Progress Coalition's thread at first! I also see you took my advice. My only nitpick is that I'll not be maintaining the Freedom Coalition and prefer if the LCP would become somewhat autonomous, but if we still need it than I'll bump it.

Anyway party time! *NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUN LAWS HERE*

Indeed, and as per the OP, I'm giving you the power to remove people from the thread if you deem it necessary.

We can kill the FC as far as I'm concerned. If we end up in another coalition, we can make a new thread.

The logo is intended to provide at a quick glance the information that we are right-wing, Libertarian, and capitalist.


I actually like it, straight and too the point. That and I couldn't find any good symbolism that we could of used. Ah well. Thank you too.
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Postby Skeckoa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:43 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:Can I post now?

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Nice. I like the logo, although to be fair I thought I was in the Progress Coalition's thread at first! I also see you took my advice. My only nitpick is that I'll not be maintaining the Freedom Coalition and prefer if the LCP would become somewhat autonomous, but if we still need it than I'll bump it.

Anyway party time! *NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUN LAWS HERE*

Indeed, and as per the OP, I'm giving you the power to remove people from the thread if you deem it necessary.

We can kill the FC as far as I'm concerned. If we end up in another coalition, we can make a new thread.

The logo is intended to provide at a quick glance the information that we are right-wing, Libertarian, and capitalist.


Will there be posting of a party platform?
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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:44 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Indeed, and as per the OP, I'm giving you the power to remove people from the thread if you deem it necessary.

We can kill the FC as far as I'm concerned. If we end up in another coalition, we can make a new thread.

The logo is intended to provide at a quick glance the information that we are right-wing, Libertarian, and capitalist.


I actually like it, straight and too the point. That and I couldn't find any good symbolism that we could of used. Ah well. Thank you too.

If you think of a better logo, we can definitely change it. I guess I didn't see your comment about a more refined gold look until now. You made a great point. The logo I drew is by no means set in stone; I just needed something to fill out that space in the OP.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Indeed, and as per the OP, I'm giving you the power to remove people from the thread if you deem it necessary.

We can kill the FC as far as I'm concerned. If we end up in another coalition, we can make a new thread.

The logo is intended to provide at a quick glance the information that we are right-wing, Libertarian, and capitalist.


Will there be posting of a party platform?
Yes, I'll start with what Belmaria had and we can modify it as we see fit. I don't really see anything I personally want to change.

EDIT: Now I can't find Bel's platform
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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:53 pm

One more note: I'm planning to scale back our party protective force to something a little more realistic that's not just a paramilitary under a different name. Any objections?
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Postby National Investigation Bureau » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:08 am

Libertarian Capitalist Party Headquarters

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"No you damned idiot! It's straight ahead!"

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The white Renault van came to an abrupt stop just outside the headquarters of the new headquarters building. Both men inside were dressed in blue jeans and a turquoise shirt that said "MOVERS" on the back. They both stepped out of the van, and went around to the right side door, and opened it and both stepped inside of the van. The interior of the van was filled with computer screens and monitors, headsets and radios. The door was quickly shut, the rear of the van had 2 windows on the back doors both of which were heavily tinted, the rear area of the van is not viewable from the front. The van sits there for several hours.
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Postby Belmaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:16 am

National Investigation Bureau wrote:Libertarian Capitalist Party Headquarters

"It's up on the right, right Tim?"

"No you damned idiot! It's straight ahead!"

"Calm down!"

The white Renault van came to an abrupt stop just outside the headquarters of the new headquarters building. Both men inside were dressed in blue jeans and a turquoise shirt that said "MOVERS" on the back. They both stepped out of the van, and went around to the right side door, and opened it and both stepped inside of the van. The interior of the van was filled with computer screens and monitors, headsets and radios. The door was quickly shut, the rear of the van had 2 windows on the back doors both of which were heavily tinted, the rear area of the van is not viewable from the front. The van sits there for several hours.

OOC: I don't think the building has changed
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Postby Aurentine National Gendarmerie » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:18 am

Slowly, a white and green sedan pulled up on the road opposite the entrance to the party HQ, just in front of the Movers van. Clearly marked as a Gendarme car, the men inside wore the uniforms and carried weapons - an SLR rifle was prominently displayed on a gun-rack between the two seats. To the outside observer, they were clearly observing the building in an informal manner, one eating some fish and chips while the other continued his progress through a Bernard Cornwell book.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:53 am

So I'm guessing that the merger is not going to happen?
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Postby Minarchist States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:56 am

Zurkerx wrote:So I'm guessing that the merger is not going to happen?


I was looking for it, but apparently not. New Bierstaat had other plans I presume.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:59 am

Minarchist States wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:So I'm guessing that the merger is not going to happen?


I was looking for it, but apparently not. New Bierstaat had other plans I presume.


I see. Let me know what's going on, or have New Bierstaat send me a message.
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Postby Minarchist States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:40 am

I had an idea for an act that'll cap taxation at a certain point called the Freedom from Taxation act (pending). This would make it so the upper class doesn't pay more than 65% and middle class more than 40% of their wealth, either accidentally or purposely by the government. It's somewhat symbolic as well...anybody would like to help? I'll be on later tonight.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:42 am

I'm still interested in a merger, I just wanted to make a new thread since I took over as chairman.
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Postby Belmaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:46 am

Minarchist States wrote:I had an idea for an act that'll cap taxation at a certain point called the Freedom from Taxation act (pending). This would make it so the upper class doesn't pay more than 65% and middle class more than 40% of their wealth, either accidentally or purposely by the government. It's somewhat symbolic as well...anybody would like to help? I'll be on later tonight.

Make sure all taxation is covered, and not just income taxation.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:01 am

Belmaria wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:I had an idea for an act that'll cap taxation at a certain point called the Freedom from Taxation act (pending). This would make it so the upper class doesn't pay more than 65% and middle class more than 40% of their wealth, either accidentally or purposely by the government. It's somewhat symbolic as well...anybody would like to help? I'll be on later tonight.

Make sure all taxation is covered, and not just income taxation.


Don't those %'s mean effective tax burden?
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Postby Minarchist States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:01 am

Belmaria wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:I had an idea for an act that'll cap taxation at a certain point called the Freedom from Taxation act (pending). This would make it so the upper class doesn't pay more than 65% and middle class more than 40% of their wealth, either accidentally or purposely by the government. It's somewhat symbolic as well...anybody would like to help? I'll be on later tonight.

Make sure all taxation is covered, and not just income taxation.


Gotcha,

Alright, the results are coming in, and it seems like we are for the merger from 5 aye to 2 nay.

So please, Libertarian Freedom Party members, leave your bags at the door and we shall see you to your rooms.

THE MERGER IS COMPLETED. THE TWO PARTIES ARE NOW ONE.

Now we shall also enact a vote whether to keep the name as the Libertarian Capitalist Party, or become simply the Libertarian Party (with Bier's permission)

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Libertarian Capitalist Party: 0

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