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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu May 30, 2013 2:36 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Britanno wrote:As a new member of the senate (2 Days Old) I am unsure of what is currently being discussed.

Could somebody please fill me in on what has happened end recently?

I am aware of the Senate Building Bombings, is that what this is all about?

Nope, this is over a $1 billion requisition for helicopters and airbuses for the prime minister, vice president, and president carried out unilaterally by the VP.

It has been resolved, apologies and compromises ext. and we are also moving on
Next order of buisness?

I've got nothing.

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu May 30, 2013 2:47 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Britanno wrote:As a new member of the senate (2 Days Old) I am unsure of what is currently being discussed.

Could somebody please fill me in on what has happened end recently?

I am aware of the Senate Building Bombings, is that what this is all about?

Nope, this is over a $1 billion requisition for helicopters and airbuses for the prime minister, vice president, and president carried out unilaterally by the VP.

It has been resolved, apologies and compromises ext. and we are also moving on
Next order of buisness?

When were these ordered?
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Postby Kouralia » Thu May 30, 2013 2:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Nope, this is over a $1 billion requisition for helicopters and airbuses for the prime minister, vice president, and president carried out unilaterally by the VP.

It has been resolved, apologies and compromises ext. and we are also moving on
Next order of buisness?

When were these ordered?

When weren't they ordered? ;)
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu May 30, 2013 2:55 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:When were these ordered?

When weren't they ordered? ;)

When wernt they not ordered?
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Postby Kouralia » Thu May 30, 2013 3:10 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Kouralia wrote:When weren't they ordered? ;)

When wernt they not ordered?

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu May 30, 2013 3:16 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:When wernt they not ordered?

Image

Watch out we got a picspammer here.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 5:58 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Kouralia wrote:
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Watch out we got a picspammer here.

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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:20 pm

For supporters of the Economic Responsibility Act, or for those who just want to learn more, we have established a new website for it!

http://nsg-era.webs.com/
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu May 30, 2013 6:23 pm

Belmaria wrote:For supporters of the Economic Responsibility Act, or for those who just want to learn more, we have established a new website for it!

http://nsg-era.webs.com/

Il repeat my question from earliar: how he hell are you going toget the bullion necessary without bankrupting us?
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:25 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Belmaria wrote:For supporters of the Economic Responsibility Act, or for those who just want to learn more, we have established a new website for it!

http://nsg-era.webs.com/

Il repeat my question from earliar: how he hell are you going toget the bullion necessary without bankrupting us?

Gradually, over time. As we collect taxes, we will be able to afford more bullion. I'd say about 10-15% of the budget annually will do just fine.
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Postby Mishmahig » Thu May 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Il repeat my question from earliar: how he hell are you going toget the bullion necessary without bankrupting us?

Gradually, over time. As we collect taxes, we will be able to afford more bullion. I'd say about 10-15% of the budget annually will do just fine.


What supports the currency while we do not have bullion?

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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu May 30, 2013 6:32 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Il repeat my question from earliar: how he hell are you going toget the bullion necessary without bankrupting us?

Gradually, over time. As we collect taxes, we will be able to afford more bullion. I'd say about 10-15% of the budget annually will do just fine.

10-15%!?!?!? Are you out of your mind! That is a massive amount of money that we need elsewhere

Personally i think we are better off raiding fort knox
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 6:32 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Gradually, over time. As we collect taxes, we will be able to afford more bullion. I'd say about 10-15% of the budget annually will do just fine.

10-15%!?!?!? Are you out of your mind! That is a massive amount of money that we need elsewhere

Personally i think we are better off raiding fort knox

:roll: Yes, let's turn the entire civilized world against us.
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Postby Unicario » Thu May 30, 2013 6:33 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:10-15%!?!?!? Are you out of your mind! That is a massive amount of money that we need elsewhere

Personally i think we are better off raiding fort knox

:roll: Yes, let's turn the entire civilized world against us.


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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:33 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Gradually, over time. As we collect taxes, we will be able to afford more bullion. I'd say about 10-15% of the budget annually will do just fine.

10-15%!?!?!? Are you out of your mind! That is a massive amount of money that we need elsewhere

Personally i think we are better off raiding fort knox

Actually, I have a personal store of gold worth about $100 million that could start us off. I'd be happy to donate it. :)
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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Sensible Firearms Act
Urgency: Moderate
Authors: Belmaria, Jahisitc Unified Republic
Co-sponsors: Regnum Dominae, Unicario, Ainin, Byzantium Imperial, Grenartia, Liberated Counties, Geilinor, Mishmahig, Britanno, Divair, New Waterford

Preamble:
We, the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth, in order to preserve one of the most fundamental of rights, self defense, hereby recognize the various issues with the previously considered Firearms Act, and call to pass more sensible firearms legislation.

SECTION 1: Honoring the intentions of the Firearms Act
(a). While the legislation had good intentions, there were many problems with it. Such as requiring firearms used for self-defense to never leave the home. It is for this reason that we call to pass this act.

SECTION 2: Reasonable Firearms Restrictions
(a). All citizens who wish to purchase or own a firearm must obtain a Class-I, Class-II, or Class-III permit from the Aurentine government.

(b). All former soldiers dishonorably discharged for a violent crime, via a court martial, from the Commonwealth Armed Forces are prohibited from owning firearms.

(c). Applicants for any class of firearms permit must be at least 18 years of age, have no prior violent crimes on record, and have no prior or current seriously impairing mental illness.

Subsection 1:
(1a). Impairing mental illness shall be defined as any mental illness that may cause an individual to intentionally or unintentionally harm someone for no legally justifiable reason, or declared as too mentally impaired by a certified psychological/psychiatric physician.
(1b). An individual may also be denied a permit if said individual is mentally inept.
(1c). A person shall be declared mentally inept upon commitment to a sanitarium, pleading or being found “not guilty by reason of insanity” by a court of law, or being involuntarily committed into a mental facility for any reason.
(1d). If an individual is declared mentally impaired or inept and is denied a permit, said individual can overturn the decision with no less than three certified psychological/psychiatric physicians’ approval.
(1e). If, at any time, the terms “Mentally Inept” or “Mentally Impaired” are re-defined by Aurentinian law, this act shall be de facto amended by the passage of said law, and if necessary, the repealing and/or replacement of this subsection of the legislation shall follow.

(d). A Class-I permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of manual and semi-automatic firearms of any type.

(e). A Class-I permit shall require meeting the conditions in Section 2, paragraph C.

(f). A Class-I permit shall require renewal annually.

(g). A Class-I permit shall be revoked upon failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-I permit.

(h). Any individual that wishes to purchase or own a fully-automatic firearm must obtain a Class-II permit.

Subsection 2:
(2a). A Class-II permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of fully-automatic firearms. A Class-II permit shall also permit the purchase, sale and ownership of manual or semi-automatic firearms, and therefore, overrides the Class-I permit requirement as aforementioned.
(2b). A Class-II permit shall only be obtained upon meeting the above requirements for a Class-I permit, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved test on firearms safety. This permit is to be renewed every year. The aforementioned test is required to be taken and passed proficiently at every renewal as well.
(2c). A Class-II permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-II permit.

(i). Private ownership of military-grade explosive devices shall be prohibited.

Subsection 3:
(3a). A Class-III permit shall be required to obtain any non-military grade explosive device.
(3b). Military-grade explosive device shall be defined as any explosive used by the military to cause harm to people or to destroy objects, and not used by the construction industry or by civilian scientists.
(3c). A Class-III permit shall be issued only upon meeting Class-I permit requirements, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved explosives safety exam. Proficient completion of a government-approved explosives safety exam shall also be required for every renewal of a Class-III permit.
(3d). A Class-III permit shall require renewal annually.
(3e). A Class-III permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-III permit.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Belmaria wrote:Sensible Firearms Act
Urgency: Moderate
Authors: Belmaria, Jahisitc Unified Republic
Co-sponsors:

Preamble:
We, the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth, in order to preserve one of the most fundamental of rights, self defense, hereby recognize the various issues with the previously considered Firearms Act, and call to pass more sensible firearms legislation.

SECTION 1: Honoring the intentions of the Firearms Act
(a). While the legislation had good intentions, there were many problems with it. Such as requiring firearms used for self-defense to never leave the home. It is for this reason that we call to pass this act.

SECTION 2: Reasonable Firearms Restrictions
(a). All citizens who wish to purchase or own a firearm must obtain a Class-I, Class-II, or Class-III permit from the Aurentine government.

(b). All former soldiers dishonorably discharged for a violent crime, via a court martial, from the Commonwealth Armed Forces are prohibited from owning firearms.

(c). Applicants for any class of firearms permit must be at least 18 years of age, have no prior violent felonies, and have no prior or current seriously impairing mental illness.

Subsection 1:
(1a). Impairing mental illness shall be defined as any mental illness that may cause an individual to intentionally or unintentionally harm someone for no legally justifiable reason, or declared as too mentally impaired by a certified psychological/psychiatric physician.
(1b). An individual may also be denied a permit if said individual is mentally inept.
(1c). A person shall be declared mentally inept upon commitment to a sanitarium, pleading or being found “not guilty by reason of insanity” by a court of law, or being involuntarily committed into a mental facility for any reason.
(1d). If an individual is declared mentally impaired or inept and is denied a permit, said individual can overturn the decision with no less than three certified psychological/psychiatric physicians’ approval.
(1e). If, at any time, the terms “Mentally Inept” or “Mentally Impaired” are re-defined by Aurentinian law, this act shall be de facto amended by the passage of said law, and if necessary, the repealing and/or replacement of this subsection of the legislation shall follow.

(d). A Class-I permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of manual and semi-automatic firearms of any type.

(e). A Class-I permit shall require meeting the conditions in Section 2, paragraph C.

(f). A Class-I permit shall require renewal annually.

(g). A Class-I permit shall be revoked upon failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-I permit.

(h). Any individual that wishes to purchase or own a fully-automatic firearm must obtain a Class-II permit.

Subsection 2:
(2a). A Class-II permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of fully-automatic firearms. A Class-II permit shall also permit the purchase, sale and ownership of manual or semi-automatic firearms, and therefore, overrides the Class-I permit requirement as aforementioned.
(2b). A Class-II permit shall only be obtained upon meeting the above requirements for a Class-I permit, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved test on firearms safety. This permit is to be renewed every year. The aforementioned test is required to be taken and passed proficiently at every renewal as well.
(2c). A Class-II permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-II permit.

(i). Private ownership of military-grade explosive devices shall be prohibited.

Subsection 3:
(3a). A Class-III permit shall be required to obtain any non-military grade explosive device.
(3b). Military-grade explosive device shall be defined as any explosive used by the military to cause harm to people or to destroy objects, and not used by the construction industry or by civilian scientists.
(3c). A Class-III permit shall be issued only upon meeting Class-I permit requirements, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved explosives safety exam. Proficient completion of a government-approved explosives safety exam shall also be required for every renewal of a Class-III permit.
(3d). A Class-III permit shall require renewal annually.
(3e). A Class-III permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-III permit.


I'll co-sponsor. (Also make sure to add party affliations next to sponsor names)
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Postby Unicario » Thu May 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Belmaria wrote:Sensible Firearms Act
Urgency: Moderate
Authors: Belmaria, Jahisitc Unified Republic
Co-sponsors:

Preamble:
We, the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth, in order to preserve one of the most fundamental of rights, self defense, hereby recognize the various issues with the previously considered Firearms Act, and call to pass more sensible firearms legislation.

SECTION 1: Honoring the intentions of the Firearms Act
(a). While the legislation had good intentions, there were many problems with it. Such as requiring firearms used for self-defense to never leave the home. It is for this reason that we call to pass this act.

SECTION 2: Reasonable Firearms Restrictions
(a). All citizens who wish to purchase or own a firearm must obtain a Class-I, Class-II, or Class-III permit from the Aurentine government.

(b). All former soldiers dishonorably discharged for a violent crime, via a court martial, from the Commonwealth Armed Forces are prohibited from owning firearms.

(c). Applicants for any class of firearms permit must be at least 18 years of age, have no prior violent felonies, and have no prior or current seriously impairing mental illness.

Subsection 1:
(1a). Impairing mental illness shall be defined as any mental illness that may cause an individual to intentionally or unintentionally harm someone for no legally justifiable reason, or declared as too mentally impaired by a certified psychological/psychiatric physician.
(1b). An individual may also be denied a permit if said individual is mentally inept.
(1c). A person shall be declared mentally inept upon commitment to a sanitarium, pleading or being found “not guilty by reason of insanity” by a court of law, or being involuntarily committed into a mental facility for any reason.
(1d). If an individual is declared mentally impaired or inept and is denied a permit, said individual can overturn the decision with no less than three certified psychological/psychiatric physicians’ approval.
(1e). If, at any time, the terms “Mentally Inept” or “Mentally Impaired” are re-defined by Aurentinian law, this act shall be de facto amended by the passage of said law, and if necessary, the repealing and/or replacement of this subsection of the legislation shall follow.

(d). A Class-I permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of manual and semi-automatic firearms of any type.

(e). A Class-I permit shall require meeting the conditions in Section 2, paragraph C.

(f). A Class-I permit shall require renewal annually.

(g). A Class-I permit shall be revoked upon failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-I permit.

(h). Any individual that wishes to purchase or own a fully-automatic firearm must obtain a Class-II permit.

Subsection 2:
(2a). A Class-II permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of fully-automatic firearms. A Class-II permit shall also permit the purchase, sale and ownership of manual or semi-automatic firearms, and therefore, overrides the Class-I permit requirement as aforementioned.
(2b). A Class-II permit shall only be obtained upon meeting the above requirements for a Class-I permit, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved test on firearms safety. This permit is to be renewed every year. The aforementioned test is required to be taken and passed proficiently at every renewal as well.
(2c). A Class-II permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-II permit.

(i). Private ownership of military-grade explosive devices shall be prohibited.

Subsection 3:
(3a). A Class-III permit shall be required to obtain any non-military grade explosive device.
(3b). Military-grade explosive device shall be defined as any explosive used by the military to cause harm to people or to destroy objects, and not used by the construction industry or by civilian scientists.
(3c). A Class-III permit shall be issued only upon meeting Class-I permit requirements, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved explosives safety exam. Proficient completion of a government-approved explosives safety exam shall also be required for every renewal of a Class-III permit.
(3d). A Class-III permit shall require renewal annually.
(3e). A Class-III permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-III permit.


I will co-sponsor, however, do not put my party down, since I'm sponsoring against party lines.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Unicario wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Sensible Firearms Act
Urgency: Moderate
Authors: Belmaria, Jahisitc Unified Republic
Co-sponsors:

Preamble:
We, the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth, in order to preserve one of the most fundamental of rights, self defense, hereby recognize the various issues with the previously considered Firearms Act, and call to pass more sensible firearms legislation.

SECTION 1: Honoring the intentions of the Firearms Act
(a). While the legislation had good intentions, there were many problems with it. Such as requiring firearms used for self-defense to never leave the home. It is for this reason that we call to pass this act.

SECTION 2: Reasonable Firearms Restrictions
(a). All citizens who wish to purchase or own a firearm must obtain a Class-I, Class-II, or Class-III permit from the Aurentine government.

(b). All former soldiers dishonorably discharged for a violent crime, via a court martial, from the Commonwealth Armed Forces are prohibited from owning firearms.

(c). Applicants for any class of firearms permit must be at least 18 years of age, have no prior violent felonies, and have no prior or current seriously impairing mental illness.

Subsection 1:
(1a). Impairing mental illness shall be defined as any mental illness that may cause an individual to intentionally or unintentionally harm someone for no legally justifiable reason, or declared as too mentally impaired by a certified psychological/psychiatric physician.
(1b). An individual may also be denied a permit if said individual is mentally inept.
(1c). A person shall be declared mentally inept upon commitment to a sanitarium, pleading or being found “not guilty by reason of insanity” by a court of law, or being involuntarily committed into a mental facility for any reason.
(1d). If an individual is declared mentally impaired or inept and is denied a permit, said individual can overturn the decision with no less than three certified psychological/psychiatric physicians’ approval.
(1e). If, at any time, the terms “Mentally Inept” or “Mentally Impaired” are re-defined by Aurentinian law, this act shall be de facto amended by the passage of said law, and if necessary, the repealing and/or replacement of this subsection of the legislation shall follow.

(d). A Class-I permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of manual and semi-automatic firearms of any type.

(e). A Class-I permit shall require meeting the conditions in Section 2, paragraph C.

(f). A Class-I permit shall require renewal annually.

(g). A Class-I permit shall be revoked upon failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-I permit.

(h). Any individual that wishes to purchase or own a fully-automatic firearm must obtain a Class-II permit.

Subsection 2:
(2a). A Class-II permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of fully-automatic firearms. A Class-II permit shall also permit the purchase, sale and ownership of manual or semi-automatic firearms, and therefore, overrides the Class-I permit requirement as aforementioned.
(2b). A Class-II permit shall only be obtained upon meeting the above requirements for a Class-I permit, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved test on firearms safety. This permit is to be renewed every year. The aforementioned test is required to be taken and passed proficiently at every renewal as well.
(2c). A Class-II permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-II permit.

(i). Private ownership of military-grade explosive devices shall be prohibited.

Subsection 3:
(3a). A Class-III permit shall be required to obtain any non-military grade explosive device.
(3b). Military-grade explosive device shall be defined as any explosive used by the military to cause harm to people or to destroy objects, and not used by the construction industry or by civilian scientists.
(3c). A Class-III permit shall be issued only upon meeting Class-I permit requirements, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved explosives safety exam. Proficient completion of a government-approved explosives safety exam shall also be required for every renewal of a Class-III permit.
(3d). A Class-III permit shall require renewal annually.
(3e). A Class-III permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-III permit.


I will co-sponsor, however, do not put my party down, since I'm sponsoring against party lines.

Just wondering, why are you in the NIFP and not one of the left wing parties?
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Postby Unicario » Thu May 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I will co-sponsor, however, do not put my party down, since I'm sponsoring against party lines.

Just wondering, why are you in the NIFP and not one of the left wing parties?


Political favors to the Chairman, mostly, that and I'm not very fond of the majority of the Left...

Oh, and I'm the only force in the party keeping it from being even more radical right than it already is XD
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu May 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Unicario wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote: :roll: Yes, let's turn the entire civilized world against us.


Don't question the sanity of the party. Trust me, Senator, you'll be better off not doing so.

I am begining to detest your lack of a sense of humor/strange need to insult your party.
But no matter!


say leave the lla part out of the bill for now. We can amend that when it comes to it.

I believe that you have established all the necessary obstacles toward the wrong people getting guns while protecting our right to self defense. The 3 pronged permit system was quite clever on your part.

I have one problem with it though: why do you have to renew the permits annually? Thats just an unnecessary burden on government and person right? So maybe a bi or tri annual renewal would be
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Postby Ainin » Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Sensible Firearms Act
Urgency: Moderate
Authors: Belmaria, Jahisitc Unified Republic
Co-sponsors:

Preamble:
We, the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth, in order to preserve one of the most fundamental of rights, self defense, hereby recognize the various issues with the previously considered Firearms Act, and call to pass more sensible firearms legislation.

SECTION 1: Honoring the intentions of the Firearms Act
(a). While the legislation had good intentions, there were many problems with it. Such as requiring firearms used for self-defense to never leave the home. It is for this reason that we call to pass this act.

SECTION 2: Reasonable Firearms Restrictions
(a). All citizens who wish to purchase or own a firearm must obtain a Class-I, Class-II, or Class-III permit from the Aurentine government.

(b). All former soldiers dishonorably discharged for a violent crime, via a court martial, from the Commonwealth Armed Forces are prohibited from owning firearms.

(c). Applicants for any class of firearms permit must be at least 18 years of age, have no prior violent felonies, and have no prior or current seriously impairing mental illness.

Subsection 1:
(1a). Impairing mental illness shall be defined as any mental illness that may cause an individual to intentionally or unintentionally harm someone for no legally justifiable reason, or declared as too mentally impaired by a certified psychological/psychiatric physician.
(1b). An individual may also be denied a permit if said individual is mentally inept.
(1c). A person shall be declared mentally inept upon commitment to a sanitarium, pleading or being found “not guilty by reason of insanity” by a court of law, or being involuntarily committed into a mental facility for any reason.
(1d). If an individual is declared mentally impaired or inept and is denied a permit, said individual can overturn the decision with no less than three certified psychological/psychiatric physicians’ approval.
(1e). If, at any time, the terms “Mentally Inept” or “Mentally Impaired” are re-defined by Aurentinian law, this act shall be de facto amended by the passage of said law, and if necessary, the repealing and/or replacement of this subsection of the legislation shall follow.

(d). A Class-I permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of manual and semi-automatic firearms of any type.

(e). A Class-I permit shall require meeting the conditions in Section 2, paragraph C.

(f). A Class-I permit shall require renewal annually.

(g). A Class-I permit shall be revoked upon failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-I permit.

(h). Any individual that wishes to purchase or own a fully-automatic firearm must obtain a Class-II permit.

Subsection 2:
(2a). A Class-II permit shall be required for the purchase, sale, and ownership of fully-automatic firearms. A Class-II permit shall also permit the purchase, sale and ownership of manual or semi-automatic firearms, and therefore, overrides the Class-I permit requirement as aforementioned.
(2b). A Class-II permit shall only be obtained upon meeting the above requirements for a Class-I permit, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved test on firearms safety. This permit is to be renewed every year. The aforementioned test is required to be taken and passed proficiently at every renewal as well.
(2c). A Class-II permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-II permit.

(i). Private ownership of military-grade explosive devices shall be prohibited.

Subsection 3:
(3a). A Class-III permit shall be required to obtain any non-military grade explosive device.
(3b). Military-grade explosive device shall be defined as any explosive used by the military to cause harm to people or to destroy objects, and not used by the construction industry or by civilian scientists.
(3c). A Class-III permit shall be issued only upon meeting Class-I permit requirements, as well as proficient completion (85% or better) of a government-approved explosives safety exam. Proficient completion of a government-approved explosives safety exam shall also be required for every renewal of a Class-III permit.
(3d). A Class-III permit shall require renewal annually.
(3e). A Class-III permit shall be revoked upon the failure to meet any of the requirements for obtaining a Class-III permit.


I'll co-sponsor. (Also make sure to add party affliations next to sponsor names)

I will sponsor if needed.


Edit: Quoted the wrong guy, but oh well...
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Postby Unicario » Thu May 30, 2013 6:41 pm

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Unicario wrote:
Don't question the sanity of the party. Trust me, Senator, you'll be better off not doing so.

I am begining to detest your lack of a sense of humor/strange need to insult your party.
But no matter!


say leave the lla part out of the bill for now. We can amend that when it comes to it.

I believe that you have established all the necessary obstacles toward the wrong people getting guns while protecting our right to self defense. The 3 pronged permit system was quite clever on your part.

I have one problem with it though: why do you have to renew the permits annually? Thats just an unnecessary burden on government and person right? So maybe a bi or tri annual renewal would be


I was making a joke, Senator.

And the LLA has been placed at the top by admin dictate, so it stays.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:43 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Unicario wrote:
Don't question the sanity of the party. Trust me, Senator, you'll be better off not doing so.

I am begining to detest your lack of a sense of humor/strange need to insult your party.
But no matter!


say leave the lla part out of the bill for now. We can amend that when it comes to it.

I believe that you have established all the necessary obstacles toward the wrong people getting guns while protecting our right to self defense. The 3 pronged permit system was quite clever on your part.

I have one problem with it though: why do you have to renew the permits annually? Thats just an unnecessary burden on government and person right? So maybe a bi or tri annual renewal would be

That is mainly to appeal to the left so we can pass the bill. I agree with you, but we need to pass something soon affirming the right to bear arms (other than the LLA)
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Postby Belmaria » Thu May 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Ainin wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:
I'll co-sponsor. (Also make sure to add party affliations next to sponsor names)

I will sponsor if needed.


Edit: Quoted the wrong guy, but oh well...

Thanks! We're up to three now, only two more to go!
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