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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 05, 2013 3:20 am

Thanks for support for NEA, we just need two more supporters. Please...
In regards to prostitution, I support it since its indivudal's body however I dont see need for it... prostitution has already been legalised and pimps can be dealt with business regulation laws.
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Postby Agritum » Sun May 05, 2013 3:33 am

Great Nepal wrote:Thanks for support for NEA, we just need two more supporters. Please...
In regards to prostitution, I support it since its indivudal's body however I dont see need for it... prostitution has already been legalised and pimps can be dealt with business regulation laws.

Well, definite regulation is always better than sketchy conclusions that one comes to using precedently approved laws.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun May 05, 2013 3:34 am

Herrebrugh wrote:Anyone opposed to me writing a national anthem?

I already made one, actually... But I can expect people to have problems with it. Even so, it gives an example of my abilities as anthem-writer (constructive criticism is, of course, much appreciated).

The lyrics are written to employ quite a neutral tone, as to include all (or at least most) of our citizens, and not just those of any certain political colour. It furthermore expresses the ideal of all our citizens coming together as one, and working towards the future (which, of course, also counts for my esteemed fellow Senators), to lead our nation over a path of prosperity, liberty and (hopefully) peace.

Here it is:

The Song of Unity - A song for national remembrance of such things as unity and liberty

"Oh servants of our nation, amass to sing this song
And pride how, through desperation, we victored against the wrong
That we may guide that nation to everlasting glee
By working alongside in union, for land and liberty"


Again, comments and criticism is much appreciated ;)


Anyone?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun May 05, 2013 3:37 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:Anyone opposed to me writing a national anthem?

I already made one, actually... But I can expect people to have problems with it. Even so, it gives an example of my abilities as anthem-writer (constructive criticism is, of course, much appreciated).

The lyrics are written to employ quite a neutral tone, as to include all (or at least most) of our citizens, and not just those of any certain political colour. It furthermore expresses the ideal of all our citizens coming together as one, and working towards the future (which, of course, also counts for my esteemed fellow Senators), to lead our nation over a path of prosperity, liberty and (hopefully) peace.

Here it is:

The Song of Unity - A song for national remembrance of such things as unity and liberty

"Oh servants of our nation, amass to sing this song
And pride how, through desperation, we victored against the wrong
That we may guide that nation to everlasting glee
By working alongside in union, for land and liberty"


Again, comments and criticism is much appreciated ;)


Anyone?


It's nice but I wouldn't have picked the tune.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun May 05, 2013 3:52 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Anyone?


It's nice but I wouldn't have picked the tune.


Any suggestions for one?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun May 05, 2013 3:58 am

Herrebrugh wrote:Any suggestions for one?


Something that's no longer in use. Die stem van Zuid Africa for example (not trying to be controversial, I just happen to like the tune).
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun May 05, 2013 4:11 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:Any suggestions for one?


Something that's no longer in use. Die stem van Zuid Africa for example (not trying to be controversial, I just happen to like the tune).


Die Stem van Suid-Afrika is actually one I considered, but I was indeed a bit afraid of controversy. But, heh, it was made before Apartheid, so I've always thought it was a bit stupid to associate it with just that.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 6:53 am

Here is Draft #3 of the Financial Act of 2013.




Financial Act of 2013
Urgency: Paramount


Drafted By: Royalsoldiers [CFE]

Sponsor[s]: Lemanrussland [LD], Yanalia [RG], Wolfmanne [PC], Ceannairceach [TR], Great Nepal [CFE], Arglorand [TR]



Recognizes that currently, the nation has no national bank to deposit and hold its monetary funds and its taxed currency from the citizenry. This represents a threat to the basic financial security of the nation.

Points Out that it is necessary to have a central bank to issue currencies and pay off all national debts with taxed or earned government tender. The bank will also print and issue all monetary tender for the debts of individual citizens or groups.

Acknowledges the possible issues and drawbacks to having a central bank for the entire nation. Also, the need to control the amount of printed money to control detrimental inflation to the country and its currency.

Article 1-Establishes the base for the National Bank

A-Establishes the National Bank. The bank shall print, mint, and distribute paper and coin currency to citizens. The Bank shall be separate from the jurisdiction of any ministry, established under the Ministry Foundation Act or other legislation. The President of the Bank shall be nominated and elected by the Senate by vote. This President of the Bank will oversee that the printing and minting of currency is kept in check to ensure economic security.

B-Enumerates the responsibility of the National Bank to control the value of the currency ever vigilantly. It is extremely important to maintain the value of each paper and coin tender. This can also help with social conditions beyond just the economic climate for investors and everyday citizens.

C-Establishes the Treasury. The Treasury will be led by the Treasurer who will oversee all Treasury activities. This man/woman shall compile a quarterly report for the President going over all economic sections and all upcoming and occurring economic events that could have an effect on the nation's monetary resources. The Treasury will hold all the monetary resources for the nation. They will also oversee the currency brought in via taxation. They will check that all taxes that were levied are brought in correctly and efficiently. The Treasury shall remain under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Treasury and Finance.

D-The President of the Bank is an elected official, nominated and elected by the Senate for the sole purpose of leading the National Bank in a positive direction and laying the groundwork for future economic growth. The President of the Bank shall make short-term decisions that do not have a long-term effect on the economy and the National Bank. Leaving long-term decisions to the discretion of the Senate. The President of the Bank can be removed at any time from his position by the Senate.

Article 2-Responsibilities of the National Bank and Treasury

A-The main role of the National Bank and Treasury is to oversee and watch over the monetary resources for the national and possibly local governments. They will ensure the protection and correct distribution of funds to pay off government expenses. The Treasurer will oversee that money is watched over correctly and the distribution is correct to the budget outlined by the national government.

B-The National Bank will also print, mint, and distribute tender for the debts of the government, citizenry, and groups of the nation. This will pay off all monetary debts. The money must be distributed accordingly without corruption. The President of the Bank will ensure that the money that is necessary for the government is correctly wired to the Treasury.

C-The National Bank due to its monetary printing and minting role, must be in charge of the control of inflation as the out-of-control inflation can create a dire economic situation that cannot be fixed in a short time period. The President of the Bank will ensure that the printing of money is in check and that the value of the currency is not decreasing at a rate detrimental to economic and national growth. Inflation can also be detrimental to social conditions as the wages will maintain their rate but the value will decrease making it harder to live a decent lifestyle. This will increase the amount of people living below the poverty line.

D-It is important that the Treasury and National Bank pay off the nation's debts. The Treasurer and his staff will be in charge of ensuring that the debts of the nation are properly paid with legitimate monetary tender. The President of the Bank will monitor and set the debt ceiling to ensure that the nation does not compile so much debt that its basic responsibilities cannot be fulfilled.

Article 3-The National Bank and Treasury's Role in Taxation

A-The National Bank and Treasury will collect and levy taxes. The Bank and Treasury will oversee that all taxes are put into government accounts and that they are distributed to every agency, ministry, and department according to the national budget that will be outlined by the national government.

B-To ensure that all taxes are collected effectively and correctly, the National Taxation Agency shall be created under the jurisdiction of the Treasury. The agency will ensure that no one evades taxes and that everyone pays the correct amount determined by the tax rates outlined in the National Tax Act.

C-The National Tax Agency, or N.T.A., will have the ability to arrest and reprimand anyone alleged with the crimes of tax evasion or knowingly incorrectly filing taxes. The N.T.A. shall report to the Treasurer. This is to ensure the Treasurer knows of how much money should come in through that year's taxation.

Article 4-The National Currency

A-Creates a currency that can be used by all citizens, non-citizens, tourists, and the government to pay off all debts legally. The currency shall begin at the worth of 1 Currency Unit=.50 USD. This way less money is needed to be printed at first. It shall not be pegged to any currency or backed by an metals to prevent instability among the currency.

B-The currency will be divisible into 100 sub-units. These sub-units should be minted and distributed by the National Bank in denominations of .05, .10, .25, and .50 sub-unit denominations.

C-Larger denominations shall also be distributed but instead printed. They shall be printed under the seal of the nation and the signature of the Treasurer and President, stamps may be used to sign off the tender.

D-The amount of currency being minted or printed must be limited to control the value of the currency at all times. The Senate will be able to control the path we take when it comes to the National Bank/Treasury via legislation. However, the President of the Bank will be in charge of the short-term financial path the National Bank shall take.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 6:54 am

Wow. A bill prepared by a CFE with support from nearly all the parties in the Progress Coalition. That's interesting.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 6:55 am

I support the Financial Act.
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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 6:57 am

Ceannairceach wrote:Wow. A bill prepared by a CFE with support from nearly all the parties in the Progress Coalition. That's interesting.


I set out at the beginning for bi-partisan support of the bill because of its utmost importance to the nation. Also, I believe the Coalition really isn't a hugely partisan party.

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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 6:57 am

Arglorand wrote:I support the Financial Act.


Can I put you down as a sponsor.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 6:59 am

Royalsoldiers wrote:
Arglorand wrote:I support the Financial Act.


Can I put you down as a sponsor.

Aye, of course.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun May 05, 2013 6:59 am

I didn't find record of that old prostitution bill being passed. What happened to it?
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Postby Britcan » Sun May 05, 2013 7:00 am

"B-The currency will be divisible into 100 sub-units. These sub-units should be minted and distributed by the National Bank in denominations of .05, .20, .25, and .50 sub-unit denominations."

Why .20 and .25? Personally I'd replace the .25 with .10 but this is a small issue.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 7:00 am

Arglorand wrote:
Royalsoldiers wrote:
Can I put you down as a sponsor.

Aye, of course.


Thank you. Quick question, is this a record for most oddly sponsored bill?

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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 7:01 am

Britcan wrote:"B-The currency will be divisible into 100 sub-units. These sub-units should be minted and distributed by the National Bank in denominations of .05, .20, .25, and .50 sub-unit denominations."

Why .20 and .25? Personally I'd replace the .25 with .10 but this is a small issue.


I don't really believe that this is a huge issue. But, if there is enough supporters of changing .20 to .10, I will change it.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 7:02 am

Britcan wrote:"B-The currency will be divisible into 100 sub-units. These sub-units should be minted and distributed by the National Bank in denominations of .05, .20, .25, and .50 sub-unit denominations."

Why .20 and .25? Personally I'd replace the .25 with .10 but this is a small issue.

I'd agree replacing .20 with .10, but .25 is actually pretty good.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun May 05, 2013 7:02 am

I'd prefer that it were .10 and .20 to be honest.
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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 7:04 am

Okay. I am pretty sure that is enough for me to change it.

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Postby Britcan » Sun May 05, 2013 7:04 am

Royalsoldiers wrote:
Britcan wrote:"B-The currency will be divisible into 100 sub-units. These sub-units should be minted and distributed by the National Bank in denominations of .05, .20, .25, and .50 sub-unit denominations."

Why .20 and .25? Personally I'd replace the .25 with .10 but this is a small issue.


I don't really believe that this is a huge issue. But, if there is enough supporters of changing .20 to .10, I will change it.

That would work too. I just think having both .20 and .25 is a tad pointless.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 7:12 am

Britcan wrote:
Royalsoldiers wrote:
I don't really believe that this is a huge issue. But, if there is enough supporters of changing .20 to .10, I will change it.

That would work too. I just think having both .20 and .25 is a tad pointless.


Okay. The legislation has been submitted to NSG Senate Administrators.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 05, 2013 7:28 am

Ceannairceach wrote:Wow. A bill prepared by a CFE with support from nearly all the parties in the Progress Coalition. That's interesting.

Yes, that is certainly very interesting... especially since it is a financial bill.
We still dont like you cheating bastards though! :p jk
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Postby Royalsoldiers » Sun May 05, 2013 7:30 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Wow. A bill prepared by a CFE with support from nearly all the parties in the Progress Coalition. That's interesting.

Yes, that is certainly very interesting... especially since it is a financial bill.
We still dont like you cheating bastards though! :p jk


:p Yeah, but it is good to have bipartisanship in the Senate for once.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 05, 2013 7:35 am

Great Nepal wrote:
National Extraterrestrial Act
Urgency: Medium| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors: Agritum, Arglorand


This senate and this nation, hereby recognises fundamental and utmost need for exploration and colonisation of extraterrestrial bodies and objects for purposes for scientific advancement, glory and survival of entire species. With this recognition, be it enacted by order of this senate assembled today,

Section 1- Declaration
a) This senate declares primary objective of space exploration to be peaceful exploration of space for benefit of humanity, by expansion of knowledge of spatial phenomena alongside colonisation of extraterrestrial bodies for benefit of humanity.
b) This senate declares secondary objective of space exploration to be development and acquisitions of technology of all nature, whose implications may be in both military and civilian lives.
c) This senate further declares, another important objective of space exploration to be development of equipment which may be utilized for national defence purposes.

Section 2 - Definitions
When used in this act, the following terms will be defined as stated under this section:-
a) Space: the physical universe beyond the Karman line, or an area above altitude of 100 kilometres above Earth's sea level.
b) Spatial vehicles: aircraft, missiles, satellites, and other space vehicles, manned and unmanned which are capable of crossing the Karman line, alongside its related equipment, devices, components, and parts.
c) Extraterrestrial life: Any life form which do not originate from Earth.
d) Extraterrestrial: Any object beyond the planet earth, above the Karman line.
e) Extraterrestrial bodies: Any natural object existing outside the earth and above the Karman line.

Section 3 - Targets
This act further sets following mandatory targets, for all future governments to be met in terms of space exploration and research. This act further requires mandatory payments to ensure the targets specified in this act are met under any and all circumstances. This act further calls upon senate of future to revisit these targets in December of 2030, to expand the targets as determined by circumstances of that time. Any alterations to this section, prior to December of 2030, will require three fifth majority so as to prevent reigning governments invalidating targets by simply altering them with normal majority.
a) Republic must have achieved its first unmanned space flight by December of 2013.
b) Republic must have achieved its first manned space flight by June of 2014.
c) Republic must have commenced work on space station, equal to capabilities of ISS by October of 2014, with target to complete work by 2018.
d) Republic must have made atleast one manned mission to Mars by October of 2020 and must have began plans for colonisation of moon and Mars by then.
e) Republic must have a basic colonies in Moon and Mars by end of 2030.

Section 4 - Agencies
This act hereby creates two agencies, both under civilian directive and within jurisdiction of ministry of science and astronomy, which shall be detailed below.
a) National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive (NEID): National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive will be formed with intention of developing defence technology and providing civilian oversight to military projects in space. This agency will be commanded by a council of three men, each one of whom will be appointed on basis of qualification by minister of science and astronomy, senate and commander in chief of armed forces. While, this directive will be within jurisdiction of ministry of science and astronomy, this directive due to its nature will work closely with ministry for defence and national armed forces.
b) National Extraterrestrial Exploration Institute (NEEI): National Extraterrestrial Exploration Institute will be responsible for nation's civilian space program including but not limited to exploration, colonisation and advancement of science and technology for benefit of this nation and humanity in general. This agency will be lead by indivudal appointed by minister of science and astronomy based on qualification. This institute will work closely with private sector alongside government to enhance exploration and colonisation of space. All technology developed as a result of work of this institute will be shared freely with National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive.

Section 5 - Funding
There shall be mandatory spending of 5% of total budget for spending by National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive (3%) and National Extraterrestrial Exploration Institute (2%), which must be provided by any government unless this section of act is altered by three fifth majority. Governments however, are strongly encouraged to spend more than this mandatory spending, so as to comply with the targets set out in section three.
Due to sensitive nature of works by National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive, it will not be allowed to raise private funding without approval of senate by thee fifth majority, hence justifying additional government mandatory funding for it. On the other hand, National Extraterrestrial Exploration Institute is encouraged to seek private assistance and funding for its programs alongside governmental funding as described above.

Section 6 - Extraterrestrial life contact
In case of contact with extraterrestrial life by any agency or private space company, following agencies and ministries and branches will be informed immediately:-
  • National Extraterrestrial Intelligence Directive
  • National Extraterrestrial Exploration Institute
  • Ministry of Science and astronomy.
  • President
  • Senate

This is to be followed by immediate and emergency bill being purposed on senate to determine the official policy regarding these extraterrestrial life. This bill will be presented to senate by minister of science and astronomy, and will be deemed to be of highest urgency and therefore will be presented to senate immediately regardless of its position in queue.

Section 7 - Nomenclature
a) Extraterrestrial body shall be named as per wishes of the finder, unless said finder is dead in which case the extraterrestrial body will be named in honour of the finder, with his name unless finder has made his wishes clear in writing.
b) Space shuttle program will be named in honour of the scientist who contributed most in the research program, by naming it as per his wishes.
c) Men and women who travel to space, will be refereed to as astronaut.

This had quite lot of support in last coffee shop, so any sponsors... and/or comments and suggestions.

Guys, we need two more sponsors... please?
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