NSG Senate (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Great Nepal]

Yes, we can motion for one act to be brought to the floor for urgency and then get 5 motions

I agree with this, but do the majority of members agree to this???

5 motion is too low to grant privileged status, it must take approval from someone who can be trusted to be reasonable and independent.

[Mishmahig]

Yes, we can motion for one act to be brought to the floor for urgency and then get 5 motions

I agree with this, but do the majority of members agree to this???

I disagree with this motion. This august body should avoid popular movements, arguments based in pathos, and knee-jerk reactions. Bills should remain in their queue as is.

However, should I be overruled, I propose the number of Senators required for this be pushed to 15, to avoid a party attempting to rush a bill through.

[Vazdania]

I agree with this, but do the majority of members agree to this???

I disagree with this motion. This august body should avoid popular movements, arguments based in pathos, and knee-jerk reactions. Bills should remain in their queue as is.

However, should I be overruled, I propose the number of Senators required for this be pushed to 15, to avoid a party attempting to rush a bill through.

WELL THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TO DEBATE THIS IN THE COFFEE SHOP!

[Vazdania]

I agree with this, but do the majority of members agree to this???

5 motion is too low to grant privileged status, it must take approval from someone who can be trusted to be reasonable and independent.

okay but I'm a member of the Monarchist Party so I could totally be biased towards bills which are monarchist and have them 'rushed through'

[Albul]

I vote FOR

I also propose a new bill:

Date: 27th of March, 2013 CE
Urgency: high
Category: Improvement on human and civil rights
Drafted by: Senator Albul

Issue: A rise in the involuntary sex slave trade industry and the sale of sex slaves on the black market

The Civil Treatment Act

Senator Albul proposes the legalization and nationalization of the sex industry, in order to free those abused by the involuntary sex slave trade industry and to improve the lives of those who wish to be involved in the sex industry.

1) Any and all forms of slavery will be discontinued and condemned by the government. Those that are found possessing and/or selling slaves shall be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Possible punishments include a minimum of 20 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 500,000 NSD per slave.

2) Those forced in the sex industry shall be released from the custody of their former owners. The sex industry will be nationalized, in order to prevent further abuses in the industry. Those wishing to join the sex industry must sign up in the nearest government office.

3) Workers in the nationalized sex industry must fill out an employment form and receive a license. They must have enough tests to prove competency and safety for both consumers and workers alike.

4) Workers must also obtain the same amount of benefits as any other worker. This may include, but is not limited to, health insurance and dental care. Workers may also file complaints about abusive behavior from consumers.

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The sex industry should be nationalized and heavily regulated, with its workers having the same rights as other workers.

Your Bill will be In Queue

What is the queue number?

[Zweite Alaje]

agreed, but should that apply to super important bills that need to be passed immediately???

Yes, we can motion for one act to be brought to the floor for urgency and then get 5 motions

That is stupid, that'd just make it easy for bills supported by the majority to get forced onto the floor. I think a bill shouldn't get priority unless all party chairmen agree to it unamimously.

[Great Nepal]

5 motion is too low to grant privileged status, it must take approval from someone who can be trusted to be reasonable and independent.

okay but I'm a member of the Monarchist Party so I could totally be biased towards bills which are monarchist and have them 'rushed through'

Would you do that though, really, honestly?

[Othelos]

Current Vote:

For: 41
Against: 29
Abstain: 3

Total Votes: 73

Approval Rate: 56.2%

[Vazdania]

Your Bill will be In Queue

What is the queue number?

At this moment I'm quite uncertain I believe it's 2 but as I have no list of bills to be voted upon, I can not confirm this to be true.

[Vazdania]

okay but I'm a member of the Monarchist Party so I could totally be biased towards bills which are monarchist and have them 'rushed through'

Would you do that though, really, honestly?

I dunno.....maybe we should take this issue to the coffee shop.

[Subramani]

I vote against this bill as this bill would also legalize Sex- Selective Abortion.

Current Vote:

For: 41
Against: 30
Abstain: 3

Total Votes: 74

[Phing Phong]

I wish to register an abstention for the Bodily Sovereignty Act, due to the ambiguity of the wording surrounding the provision on reproductive rights.

[Beta Test]

I vote FOR the BSA.

[Ainin]

I vote for the BSA.

Current Vote:

For: 43
Against: 30
Abstain: 4

Approval Rate: 69.7%
Total Votes: 77

[The new order of Hetalia7]

Hetalia7 votes For

[Albul]

Can I modify my bill?

Date: 27th of March, 2013 CE
Urgency: high
Category: Improvement on human and civil rights
Drafted by: Senator Albul

Issue: A rise in the involuntary sex slave trade industry and the sale of sex slaves on the black market

The Civil Treatment Act

Senator Albul proposes the legalization and regulation of the sex industry, in order to free those abused by the involuntary sex slave trade industry and to improve the lives of those who wish to be involved in the sex industry.

1) Any and all forms of slavery will be discontinued and condemned by the government. Those that are found possessing and/or selling slaves shall be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Possible punishments include a minimum of 20 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 500,000 NSD per slave.

a) Pimping, where a non-sex-worker assumes the role of manager to a sex worker and takes a cut of the sex worker's earnings, will be prohibited and should be punishable with a minimum of 15 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 400,000 NSD per sex worker.

b) Those forced in the sex industry shall be released from the custody of their former owners. The sex industry will be nationalized, in order to prevent further abuses in the industry. Those wishing to join the sex industry must sign up in the nearest government office.

2) Workers in the nationalized sex industry must fill out an employment form and receive a license. They must have enough tests to prove competency and safety for both clients and workers alike. Sex workers must also complete regular license tests in order to ensure the safety of both the worker and the client.

a) License tests must be performed monthly, to prevent the transmission of diseases.
b) All sex workers should either operate as self-employed or as members of non-hierarchical sex workers' associations.

3) Workers must also obtain the same amount of benefits as any other worker. This may include, but is not limited to, health insurance and dental care. Workers may also file complaints concerning abusive behavior from clients.

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The sex industry should be heavily regulated with its workers having the same rights as other workers.

[Mike the Progressive]

Aye

(I favor)

[Unicario]

On a personal level -- Why does the bill not reference the need for /clean/ sex workers? It doesn't specify if there are any medical examinations to ensure they aren't riddled with STD's.

[Disserbia]

Not technically, but as long as we have more fors than againsts, I think it passes. Abstains are an "I don't care". Abstaining is like not voting at all, it's just a symbolic "I want everyone to know that I don't care what happens".

Abstaining in a vote =/= not voting.

An abstention vote is a mild nay, because it dilutes the vote and makes it more difficult for things to pass but doesn't specifically count against. It's more of a "I don't know/I'm not sure what to vote" while not voting at all is "I don't care."

How is it mathematically different? That's all that matters.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

I am against this bill.

[Zweite Alaje]

I vote NAY in regards to the whore bill.

[TaQud]

Can I modify my bill?

Date: 27th of March, 2013 CE
Urgency: high
Category: Improvement on human and civil rights
Drafted by: Senator Albul

Issue: A rise in the involuntary sex slave trade industry and the sale of sex slaves on the black market

The Civil Treatment Act

Senator Albul proposes the legalization and regulation of the sex industry, in order to free those abused by the involuntary sex slave trade industry and to improve the lives of those who wish to be involved in the sex industry.

1) Any and all forms of slavery will be discontinued and condemned by the government. Those that are found possessing and/or selling slaves shall be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Possible punishments include a minimum of 20 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 500,000 NSD per slave.

a) Pimping, where a non-sex-worker assumes the role of manager to a sex worker and takes a cut of the sex worker's earnings, will be prohibited and should be punishable with a minimum of 15 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 400,000 NSD per sex worker.

b) Those forced in the sex industry shall be released from the custody of their former owners. The sex industry will be nationalized, in order to prevent further abuses in the industry. Those wishing to join the sex industry must sign up in the nearest government office.

2) Workers in the nationalized sex industry must fill out an employment form and receive a license. They must have enough tests to prove competency and safety for both clients and workers alike. Sex workers must also complete regular license tests in order to ensure the safety of both the worker and the client.

a) License tests must be performed monthly, to prevent the transmission of diseases.
b) All sex workers should either operate as self-employed or as members of non-hierarchical sex workers' associations.

3) Workers must also obtain the same amount of benefits as any other worker. This may include, but is not limited to, health insurance and dental care. Workers may also file complaints concerning abusive behavior from clients.

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The sex industry should be heavily regulated with its workers having the same rights as other workers.

I can't really think of words to describe my response to this...

[Albul]

Can I modify my bill?

Date: 27th of March, 2013 CE
Urgency: high
Category: Improvement on human and civil rights
Drafted by: Senator Albul

Issue: A rise in the involuntary sex slave trade industry and the sale of sex slaves on the black market

The Civil Treatment Act

Senator Albul proposes the legalization and regulation of the sex industry, in order to free those abused by the involuntary sex slave trade industry and to improve the lives of those who wish to be involved in the sex industry.

1) Any and all forms of slavery will be discontinued and condemned by the government. Those that are found possessing and/or selling slaves shall be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Possible punishments include a minimum of 20 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 500,000 NSD per slave.

a) Pimping, where a non-sex-worker assumes the role of manager to a sex worker and takes a cut of the sex worker's earnings, will be prohibited and should be punishable with a minimum of 15 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 400,000 NSD per sex worker.

b) Those forced in the sex industry shall be released from the custody of their former owners. The sex industry will be nationalized, in order to prevent further abuses in the industry. Those wishing to join the sex industry must sign up in the nearest government office.

2) Workers in the nationalized sex industry must fill out an employment form and receive a license. They must have enough tests to prove competency and safety for both clients and workers alike. Sex workers must also complete regular license tests in order to ensure the safety of both the worker and the client.

a) License tests must be performed monthly, to prevent the transmission of diseases.
b) All sex workers should either operate as self-employed or as members of non-hierarchical sex workers' associations.

3) Workers must also obtain the same amount of benefits as any other worker. This may include, but is not limited to, health insurance and dental care. Workers may also file complaints concerning abusive behavior from clients.

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The sex industry should be heavily regulated with its workers having the same rights as other workers.

I can't really think of words to describe my response to this...

AYE or NAY

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I vote NAY in regards to the whore bill.

We're not at vote on this matter, senator.

[TaQud]

I vote NAY in regards to the whore bill.

We're not at vote on this matter, senator.

I can't really think of words to describe my response to this...

AYE or NAY

so why should I vote now on it?