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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:54 am

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Postby Deimosan » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:04 pm

This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:06 pm

Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.


"But does Eternal Scholars want it to be repealed?"

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:10 pm

Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.

That's racist... raider... ist... That's discriminatory!

In all seriousness though, it has native support which is the only thing that matters in this case.
Altos wrote:Altos, WA delegate for Eternal Scholars, stopping by. I agree with this resolution on the condition of one question: if the resolution is repealed, and I currently do not have enough influence to create a new password (from either being ejected by Nazis or the WA resolution on passwords) would I be able to set a password once the resolution passes?

Best of wishes for the safety and security of Eternal Scholars.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:10 pm

Altos wrote:Altos, WA delegate for Eternal Scholars, stopping by. I agree with this resolution on the condition of one question: if the resolution is repealed, and I currently do not have enough influence to create a new password (from either being ejected by Nazis or the WA resolution on passwords) would I be able to set a password once the resolution passes?

Best of wishes for the safety and security of Eternal Scholars.



The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.


"But does Eternal Scholars want it to be repealed?"


Yes.

EDIT: Ninja'd by NSA.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:13 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.

That's racist... raider... ist... That's discriminatory!

In all seriousness though, it has native support which is the only thing that matters in this case.
Altos wrote:Altos, WA delegate for Eternal Scholars, stopping by. I agree with this resolution on the condition of one question: if the resolution is repealed, and I currently do not have enough influence to create a new password (from either being ejected by Nazis or the WA resolution on passwords) would I be able to set a password once the resolution passes?

Best of wishes for the safety and security of Eternal Scholars.
Kaboomlandia wrote:
Altos wrote:Altos, WA delegate for Eternal Scholars, stopping by. I agree with this resolution on the condition of one question: if the resolution is repealed, and I currently do not have enough influence to create a new password (from either being ejected by Nazis or the WA resolution on passwords) would I be able to set a password once the resolution passes?

Best of wishes for the safety and security of Eternal Scholars.



The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
"But does Eternal Scholars want it to be repealed?"


Yes.

EDIT: Ninja'd by NSA.


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Postby The Great Wall of Mexico » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:57 pm

Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.


I may be a raider, but I am a Model UN delegate in real life and the founder of the Model UN club in my high school. My responsibilities as a co-author are to check for spelling errors and make sure the format of the resolution abides by UN standards.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:20 am

Deimosan wrote:This was written by a raider of HYDRA, don't vote for it.

Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: Who wrote this has no bearing on my stance on it. Heck, I'd even vote for this proposal if it was written by Francos Spain! When I vote on proposals, my beliefs on the nation or the region are always supplementary to the act. I have voted for, regardless.
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Postby Western Evilly » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:33 am

Voting against. Delegate does not have enough influence to password the region once this is repealed and the exposure the region is getting because of this makes it a prime choice for invasion. I believe this was premature.
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Postby SYG » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:18 am

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As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote IN FAVOR OF the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge there. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of the fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Syg a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Sub-Vizier greatly appreciate your time and patience.

Best Regards,

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tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:33 am

Syg wrote:
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As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote IN FAVOR OF the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge there. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of the fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Syg a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Sub-Vizier greatly appreciate your time and patience.

Best Regards,

Syg, Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs

tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars

Yet here, the Sub-Vizier of WA Affairs is listed as Der Angreifer!
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Postby Der Angreifer » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:12 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Syg wrote:
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As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote IN FAVOR OF the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge there. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of the fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Syg a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Sub-Vizier greatly appreciate your time and patience.

Best Regards,

Syg, Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs

tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars

Yet here, the Sub-Vizier of WA Affairs is listed as Der Angreifer!

I have resigned very recently and Syg holds the position now.

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Postby Drasnia » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:21 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Syg wrote:
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And the office of the Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs


As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote IN FAVOR OF the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge there. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of the fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Syg a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Sub-Vizier greatly appreciate your time and patience.

Best Regards,

Syg, Sub-Vizier of World Assembly Affairs

tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars

Yet here, the Sub-Vizier of WA Affairs is listed as Der Angreifer!

... Is that supposed to be a gotcha or something?
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Postby States of Glory » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:33 pm

Syg wrote:tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars

Thank you for actually getting to the point this time.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:14 pm

States of Glory wrote:
Syg wrote:tl;dr The Pharaoh of Osiris has voted FOR Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars

Thank you for actually getting to the point this time.



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Postby Alkasia » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:26 pm

People voting against need to drop the partisanship. This has nothing to do with who proposed it. This is for the protection of Eternal Scholars and has native support. What more needs to be said?

At least the margin is so wide that it will pass almost no matter what happens.
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Postby Sygian II » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:40 pm

For what it's worth (and for the sake of clarification), it was authored by a member of The Black Hawks (myself) and a member of HYDRA Command (The Great Wall of Mexico).
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:40 pm

Well, seems we're going to need that liberation afterall, Sygian.

Thanks Larry.
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Postby Western Evilly » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:44 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:Well, seems we're going to need that liberation afterall, Sygian.

Thanks Larry.

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Postby Trinnien » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:52 pm

At approx. 130AM EST on 12/03/2016 The Invaders raided the region Eternal Scholars. As the Eternal Scholars is currently under a Liberation it can not be imposed with a password by the Delegate. However, in 2 days time that restriction will likely be lifted {if the current vote trend were to continue} and would allow The Invaders to impose one, thus potentially closing off the region to the natives indefinitely. Clearly, it is too soon to remove the restriction; and therefore the liberation should remain in effect.

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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:57 pm

Shit, it appears this will succeed.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:09 am

Wallenburg wrote:Shit, it appears this will succeed.

Two days to flip it, plenty of time.
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Postby Pallaith » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:10 am

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In the midst of this vote, Eternal Scholars was raided once again. Clearly it is too soon to allow for a delegate-imposed password, and therefore the liberation should remain in effect. At this point repealing the resolution will give the raiders an opportunity to lock down the region from any who would seek to save it.

For these reasons, the Ministry of World Assembly Affairs recommends a vote against the resolution.
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Postby T E Lawrence » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:32 am

Alkasia wrote:At least the margin is so wide that it will pass almost no matter what happens.

We can always experiment.

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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:32 am

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Tinhampton - in their status as a World Assembly Delegate with 10 votes as of the time of writing - has switched their vote to being AGAINST the repeal of "Liberate Eternal Scholars". A statement from our Delegate-Ambassador:
My original reasons for voting for this repeal was mainly based on how any invader threat was removed. At one point, this resolution was 93-7 for! However, given that the Invaders have since taken over indefinitely, and they have no plans to at least give natives some autonomy, I believe that it is best to keep this liberation in place, and then draft another one at a more appropriate time.

Tinhampton is voting against this resolution, and also strongly urge other members of the Federation's Assembly of Nations to vote against it. However, this opinion is not binding, and Tinhampton cannot and will not throw you into the flames of the Rejected Realms for failing to vote the same way as them.
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Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578, SC#374, GA#582, SC#375, GA#589, GA#590, SC#382, SC#385*, GA#597, GA#607, SC#415, GA#647, GA#656, GA#664, GA#671, GA#674, GA#675, GA#677, GA#680, Issue #1580, GA#682, GA#683, GA#684, GA#692, GA#693, GA#715
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