[DEFEATED] Liberate United Defenders League

[Wicconian]

My stance on this matter is: unmoved.

Concerns: I question the validity of the resolution on whether there is enough factual information to determine whether intervention is required. I also believe there is things happening behind the scene that we aren't aware of.

I won't be voting for on this resolution.

Deloris Hijani
Wicconian

[Deimosan]

This is not going to get anywhere with the For-Against ratio strongly favoring Against.

[The Laurentian Federation]

The first letters of each paragraph from bottom to up spells INVADER

[Ndaku]

The region is already annexed with an active puppet stationed. Even if it were to be liberated, there'd be no use trying to get the region back with an active founder. A proposal like this should have been put forth a long time ago before annexation. Now, it's too late. Against.

[Patrykstan]

The writer of this proposal will regret crying wolf over a prank when a real problem occurs and they won't have any nation standing by them for aid.

[We Are Not the NSA]

The writer of this proposal will regret crying wolf over a prank when a real problem occurs and they won't have any nation standing by them for aid.

Based off of the number of people voting for this, and the number of delegates who blindly approved it despite the clear lack of any actual effects in can possibly cause, I'm not sure how accurate this statement actually is.

[Leppikania]

Can we just have some selfies from regions that we actually want to be recognized?

[Wasa Radamai]

The first letters of each paragraph from bottom to up spells INVADER

These sneaky invaders are just playing with us. This is just an ad.

[Belveria]

It sounds as if the UDL fell apart and has little to now power while the INVADERS maintain control and power. The theory is the same here as it is in a Capitalist economy, rise and fall on their own merits...it would appear they fell.

[Drasnia]

It sounds as if the UDL fell apart and has little to now power while the INVADERS maintain control and power. The theory is the same here as it is in a Capitalist economy, rise and fall on their own merits...it would appear they fell.

No. A member of the Invaders founded a fake region and is advertising it through this proposal. The real region, The United Defenders League is still under the control of the UDL. Don't believe all the propaganda you read.

[Kaboomlandia]

It's a shame that we have to waste three days waiting for an invader-authored liberation on a founder-locked region that isn't even real.

[General Knot]

No. A member of the Invaders founded a fake region and is advertising it through this proposal.

This is an incorrect assumption, as shown here and here. These links also debunk defender claims that the United Defenders League has always been held in raider hands.

[Wordy]

Yes I see from that little link that it was once in Halc's hands. Good lord why bring even a whisper of a DOS rule breaker to this thread?

[General Knot]

Yes I see from that little link that it was once in Halc's hands. Good lord why bring even a whisper of a DOS rule breaker to this thread?

Oh, you do miss the point too often.

[Wordy]

Guess I am a survivor then

[Kitsco]

This proposal is absurd now that I'm looking deeper into it...

How can this council Liberate a region with a founder? even if we liberate, the founder usually has legitimate control over his/her region..
In this case the founder had intended the region to be a defender region, and switched sides. That is a matter of their personal choice, one we can not change, however, regrettable it maybe.

I vote against this, and in hopes that the defenders of the region seek refuge with other defender regions.

[Druznia]

I abstain.

[Druznia]

The region is already annexed with an active puppet stationed. Even if it were to be liberated, there'd be no use trying to get the region back with an active founder. A proposal like this should have been put forth a long time ago before annexation. Now, it's too late. Against.

Then why didn't you abstain from voting?

My stance on this matter is: unmoved.

Concerns: I question the validity of the resolution on whether there is enough factual information to determine whether intervention is required. I also believe there is things happening behind the scene that we aren't aware of.

I won't be voting for on this resolution.

Deloris Hijani
Wicconian

Me neither, Your Highness.

King Pyotr I/Царь Петр I
The Kingdom of Druznia

[Wallenburg]

This incessant bullshit from the Invaders ought to count as spamming, and therefore be a bannable offense.

[Chairman Cities]

Good Day From The EU States Government. After Reading All The Intel And The Forum We Will Asking For The Chancellor To Issue A Vote Of " Disapproval" On This Proposal

[Tinhampton]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=22461724
Big Tex has just hit the nail on the head...

[Ndaku]

The region is already annexed with an active puppet stationed. Even if it were to be liberated, there'd be no use trying to get the region back with an active founder. A proposal like this should have been put forth a long time ago before annexation. Now, it's too late. Against.

Then why didn't you abstain from voting?

My stance on this matter is: unmoved.

Concerns: I question the validity of the resolution on whether there is enough factual information to determine whether intervention is required. I also believe there is things happening behind the scene that we aren't aware of.

I won't be voting for on this resolution.

Deloris Hijani
Wicconian

Me neither, Your Highness.

King Pyotr I/Царь Петр I
The Kingdom of Druznia

Becuase I don't have a nonplussed stance?

[Solorni]

I might abstain on this, I don't feel strongly either way.

[Western Evilly]

This proposal is absurd now that I'm looking deeper into it...

How can this council Liberate a region with a founder? even if we liberate, the founder usually has legitimate control over his/her region..
In this case the founder had intended the region to be a defender region, and switched sides. That is a matter of their personal choice, one we can not change, however, regrettable it maybe.

I vote against this, and in hopes that the defenders of the region seek refuge with other defender regions.

There are no defenders in the region and never were. Reading the comments before making one may have saved you from the embarrassing faux pas.

[WhiteHats]

liberate the region from the invaders, wipe the invaders out