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[SUBMITTED] Liberate Social Liberal Union

A chamber dedicated to the dissemination of inter-regional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary.

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Postby Europe and Oceania » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:42 am

We approved this.
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Navaronia
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Postby Navaronia » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:32 am

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=391526&f=24&view=unread#unread.

Well, this had a nice run. Now let's see who can see if there's some errors with the proposer!

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Postby Wrapper » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:55 am

A gentle reminder that any comments on the proposal at vote belong in that thread, not here.

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Lord Ravenclaw
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:59 am

I am urging The North Pacific to vote against the other proposal in favour of this one.
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Postby UED » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:05 pm

Eight more votes needed to reach quorum.
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Postby Eluvatar » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:44 pm

Given the rush, it's understandable, but there's one piece of this proposal which is slightly misleading.

The proposal says:
Recalling how the The Invader Network is comprised of member states such as The Invaders which have made trophy regions out of once proud regions such as The Grey Wardens and United Defenders League.


While it is true that The Grey Wardens was once the headquarters of The Order of the Grey Wardens, and was "hawked" by the nation currently known as T E Lawrence (and also known as General Knot and Ivo Muller), the story of United Defenders League is different. Indeed, United Defenders League was first founded by invaders in the first place, seeking to deny its use to The United Defenders League. Between August 11th 2011 and May 11th 2012, United Defenders League was held by the UDL and pointed to The United Defenders League. Otherwise however it has been held by one invader group or another. As the UDL was explicitly founded not as a region but as a transregional organization, I don't think this mattered much to its members (including myself). Certainly United Defenders League was never a "proud region."

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Postby Cormactopia II » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:01 pm

Eluvatar wrote:<snip>

I will be voting against on the basis of this misleading information. To preserve the integrity of the Security Council and not make a mockery of this institution, naturally.
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Postby Eluvatar » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:36 pm

Cormactopia II wrote:
Eluvatar wrote:<snip>
I will be voting against on the basis of this misleading information. To preserve the integrity of the Security Council and not make a mockery of this institution, naturally.
Of course. I pity the poor individual who would claim you had any other motive for such a vote! Why, even though I may yet vote for this proposal as written, I assure you that my commitment to factual exactitude means I will hold you in no less regard for voting against on this basis.
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:15 am

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Thank you to everyone who approved this resolution. This may be old news, but the SLU’s founder has returned, so this resolution is no longer necessary.
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:00 am

The Saint James Islands wrote:
The Atmoran Diplomat, Irvane, Thembria SSR, Ozzast, Free Wasord Islands, Amenembourg, Founder of Cyland, Wrapper, North Campbell Nation, Aelros, Perlandian Property, Dobbs, Jamaker, Aisciai, Kogoryo, Draconae, Amalgia, Narnia Nation, Wallenburg, Eluvatar, Catsalonia, The Emerald Union, Europe and Oceania, Lemur Isles, Cats Love Marshmallows, Mushcap, Lollerland, Western Arab Empire, Ryanvillle, The Great and Mighty Napoleon, Arioslavia, Universal Socialism, Savalen, Froedal, Novokraina, Arceus125, Willsylvania, Khornera, Federalnoye agentstvo razvedki, Wiepolskie, The federal republic of Simonia, Pembtopia, Grand Enclave, Bastetopia, Rokaku, Odinburgh, Flycatcher, Vancouvia, Entrits, Taprobana, Caffeine Addicts, Gabica, United WeadowAcre, Bernie Nation, Uberlegene Weltmacht, Thama, Matore, Baptized Believers, New Finnish Karelia, SMUDZLANDIA, Chaughtmanionordia, North Arkana, ScotlandSerenity, The Vegan Autonomous Zone, Ariado, RonSwanistan, OUTER CHINESE HAVEN SOCIALISTS, Oejendorf, Meulmania, Velorapt, Assiniboia and the Antillies, Misandrilandia, Free People of the World, Lower Grizzle, The Isle of The Rose, Cobra Rulers, Constantine Lambros, Ransium, The Present Time, Victores, Gallade, Kirigaya Kirito, The Anarchic fascist republic of an isle, Wolfhawk, Chesion Isle, Bathor, Imperium Anglorum, Cedoria, Kinkerland, Sovereign Military Order of Thiex-Svia, Garchyland, Socialist Cantons, Todd McCloud, Plutoniacht, New Nationale Einheit, Ninjas-007, The Southern Republic of America, Serpentonia, Sciongrad, Mcompany, The Archiepelago, The Salaxalans, Portugal and Brazil and Algarves, Barbourania, Kleinekatzen, Balcones, Lincliffwyn, Mithatox, Nava Siam, Devernia, Lacmhacarh, Los Cabrones Necropolis, Crisisies, Manateopia

Make that 113, I've withdrawn my approval.

The Saint James Islands wrote:Thank you to everyone who approved this resolution. This may be old news, but the SLU’s founder has returned, so this resolution is no longer necessary.

UED, if you agree this isn't necessary and want to withdraw the proposal, please file a GHR. Otherwise, this will go to vote in less than three days.

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Postby UED » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:45 pm

I am withdrawing this
Political and religious views don't define whether you are a good or bad person, unless you want to actively hurt everyone who doesn't believe what you say.

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Navaronia
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Postby Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:14 pm

UED wrote:I am withdrawing this

Thanks for your participation and effort for the Social Liberal Union.

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Postby UED » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:56 pm

Navaronia wrote:
UED wrote:I am withdrawing this

Thanks for your participation and effort for the Social Liberal Union.


No problem, the UED and the VF stands firmly behind the SLU.
Political and religious views don't define whether you are a good or bad person, unless you want to actively hurt everyone who doesn't believe what you say.

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:16 am

As requested:
13 hours ago: The proposal "Liberate Social Liberal Union" was removed from the floor.

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Hayeri
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Postby Hayeri » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:53 pm

Well, at least it works. THIS is what we should fight. Either that or condemn Hydra.
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