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Drasnia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Drasnia » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:21 pm

10/10 would vote for again.
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Hashitoro
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hashitoro » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:37 am

Evil Wolf wrote:
The lepearchauns wrote:LWU is responsible for the first 3 raids I ever lived through. LWU is responsible for me becoming a defender and spending 3 years including time as commander of the FRA fighting them and all the rest.


Ha! Ha! Yeah, those were good times.

But don't worry Lep, next time you see LWU in South Pacific, we won't be invading it. No we'll be in there liberating the hell out of it.


Just asking, do you really think you have a chance in hell of liberating the South Pacific?

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Postby Flanderlion » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:07 am

Hashitoro wrote:
Evil Wolf wrote:
Ha! Ha! Yeah, those were good times.

But don't worry Lep, next time you see LWU in South Pacific, we won't be invading it. No we'll be in there liberating the hell out of it.


Just asking, do you really think you have a chance in hell of liberating the South Pacific?

South Pacific, not the South Pacific. The lepearchauns is delegate there. It is going to be confusing when/if TSP gets round to taking their similarly named partner though, they've talked about it a lot but it has never really seemed to get traction as their mil goes inactive before they get round to it.

For the actual condemnation itself, I'm for this resolution, truly representative of the quality I believe the SC has became, despite the good intentions of the founders long ago.
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Hiachijan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hiachijan » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:04 am

We do not forgive so easily. To approve a commending of these barbarians after years of their atrocities is careless.

Let them rot for a few months, to make sure they actually have changed.

Alternatively, if some of these ex-raiders volunteer to quicken the pace and occupy the giant brazen bull in Khyren, then we shall happily vote to commend the region.

We are fully against this.
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Scardino
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Postby Scardino » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:57 am

Flanderlion wrote:I'm for this resolution, truly representative of the quality I believe the SC has became, despite the good intentions of the founders long ago.


The road to a commendation of LWU is paved with good intentions.
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Cormactopia II - God damn it Scardino
Drachen - god damnit scar
Syberis - Dammit Scar
Mall - fok u scar
Anerastreia - Scar so racist
Liliarchy - you evil evil man
Xoriet - You're adorable, Scar
Altino - Scar, I think I love you
Lamb Stone - Scardino knows I <3 him.
Severisen - Scar is the Rod Stewart of raiding
Roavin - Scardino has a sexy voice.
Biyah - so, I dearly love Scardino, he rocks my nuts
Lost - you're hulk mixed with tony stark
Cain - Scar restrains himself quite significantly on NS and is still known far and wide for his antics.
Biyah - God help us from Fedele bringing back the old ways. The current level of inept is just fine, thanks

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Gumina
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Ex-Nation

Postby Gumina » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:52 pm

I would like to see them prove that they deserve a commendation, just by publicly saying they've renounced their old ways means nothing, they could just as quickly turn around and start invasions immediately and could take days before we could repeal our commendation.

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Scardino
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Postby Scardino » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:41 pm

You have my word.
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Cormactopia II - God damn it Scardino
Drachen - god damnit scar
Syberis - Dammit Scar
Mall - fok u scar
Anerastreia - Scar so racist
Liliarchy - you evil evil man
Xoriet - You're adorable, Scar
Altino - Scar, I think I love you
Lamb Stone - Scardino knows I <3 him.
Severisen - Scar is the Rod Stewart of raiding
Roavin - Scardino has a sexy voice.
Biyah - so, I dearly love Scardino, he rocks my nuts
Lost - you're hulk mixed with tony stark
Cain - Scar restrains himself quite significantly on NS and is still known far and wide for his antics.
Biyah - God help us from Fedele bringing back the old ways. The current level of inept is just fine, thanks

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:53 pm

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Message from Representative Mikael Ogenbond

Once again, a ridiculous and absolutely abominable resolution has found its way to the floor of the Security Council. This resolution to commend Lone Wolves United hardly even presents an argument as to why the nominated region ought to receive such an honor. Its minimalist argumentation, while not bad by design, reflects the lack of effort put into this joke of a commendation.

Lone Wolves United is a prominent raider organization with years of conducting relentless invasions on innocent regions under its bloody belt. Recently, it has propagated the dubious narrative that it has given up its status as a raiding region and has become a defender region. All Lone Wolves United has to offer is its word that this is true. None of its actions within or beyond its ranks has hinted at a change of policy, and with the immediacy of the change, whether this narrative can be trusted whatsoever comes into clear question. The commendation now at Vote insists that, following a so-called "coup d'état" of the regional government, the new leadership has dedicated itself to "commitment to peace and protecting the innocent". By my research, however, a coup d'état of Lone Wolves United is entirely impossible. The regional founder retains full authority over the government, and the government has seen no meaningful change. It has indeed published an announcement that it has become a defender region, but no other activity corroborates this claim with concrete evidence.

My office required even less research to identify yet another great debilitating factor in this commendation attempt. The authoring delegation hails from Scardino. Up until today, this nation not only retained membership with Lone Wolves United, but also served as its Alpha Emeritus, and thus exercised several powers within the region's government. At the time of the submission of this commendation, Scardino was a proud member of Lone Wolves United. Beyond the corruption stemming from self-commendation, my office has found that Scardino, like the authoring nation of the pathetic resolution to condemn Gregoryisgodistan, joined the World Assembly exclusively in order to submit this commendation and campaign for it to reach the floor of the Security Council. Lone Wolves United insults the World Assembly with this attempt at self-commendation, and with its abuse of World Assembly membership to further its own egotistical pursuits.

With only an empty promise to reform itself, Lone Wolves United demands that the World Assembly forgive it of years of sadistic misdeeds and even go so far as to hold it on a pedestal as an exemplary region and a champion of the international community. The resolution offers recognition of the nominee's highly unsavory behavior, but only in the context of forgiving it. While this alone stands in direct contrast to the principles of the World Assembly with regard to raider organizations, the commendation goes further. Scardino praises itself and its fellow raiders for "admitting fault"--even when they have done nothing of the sort--and insists that such behavior is difficult and courageous. If it is so difficult for Lone Wolves United to acknowledge its awful deeds, then I cannot imagine how it can have any hope for reform, if it intends to become a defender organization at all.

Furthermore, with a standing condemnation of the very same region, the World Assembly cannot logically offer a commendation to Lone Wolves United. While we may be an indecisive and sometimes inconsistent organization, to directly contradict extant legislation flies in the face of basic reason. Either a region ought to be condemned or not; to commend a condemned region is to simply encourage confusion among member states and to accept a standard of doublethink toward raiding.

Finally, I must note that this commendation saw absolutely no drafting phrase. Whether this resulted from a lack of familiarity with the common process of writing resolutions or from a conscious disregard for the most basic standards of the World Assembly, this fact alone makes the resolution totally unacceptable. That self-absorbed newcomer delegations feel so confident in their own capacity to write international law that they overlook the most basic traditions of our international organization infuriates me, yet this grave mistake continues to plague the World Assembly throughout.

By absolutely no standard can I bring myself to support this shoddy excuse for a commendation. While I had initially speculated that there might be some legitimate basis for a commendation of the nominated region, the testimony of other raiders and my own independent research has confirmed that even the foundation of this resolution is entirely unacceptable. I vote against this resolution, and pray that my colleagues still retain enough mental faculty to join me in opposition.
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Postby Normanshire » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:15 pm

Full Support

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Postby Axixic » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:52 pm

Many months ago, oppose these peoples friends we did. Singing songs of Old Country sorrows, scamper to their sides and under the bloomer berry bushes hide we did.

Now to vote for could sour our milk and crush nibble our salmonade.

Vote negative we asks.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:36 pm

"Commend Lone Wolves United" was defeated 12,434 votes to 2,580.
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Evil Wolf
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Postby Evil Wolf » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:07 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
"Commend Lone Wolves United" was defeated 12,434 votes to 2,580.


A real shame too.

Well, as a result of this game-wide rejection in our change in principles, we really have no other option but to change back to being Raiders.

Clearly, this is what the majority of the Security Council wants, and we'd be very remiss to refuse them.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hydraic Empire » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:34 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:
"Commend Lone Wolves United" was defeated 12,434 votes to 2,580.


A real shame too.

Well, as a result of this game-wide rejection in our change in principles, we really have no other option but to change back to being Raiders.

Clearly, this is what the majority of the Security Council wants, and we'd be very remiss to refuse them.

Dont be an idiot. It was refused because it was self- & poorly written. Not because we love you guys as raiders.
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Postby Sternberg » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:53 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:
"Commend Lone Wolves United" was defeated 12,434 votes to 2,580.


A real shame too.

Well, as a result of this game-wide rejection in our change in principles, we really have no other option but to change back to being Raiders.

Clearly, this is what the majority of the Security Council wants, and we'd be very remiss to refuse them.


If you're so quick to flip-flop on this change of heart, then that does send signals that maybe LWU wasn't being upfront about instituting such a change in the first place. "Hang ye? Trust ye?"

I, as one voting nation among many, was (and still am!) open to the possibility of LWU's change; I simply didn't think that this particular Commendation motion lays out the case sufficiently enough to alleviate doubters within the WA. But if a change in government form is so anchored to a particular proposal's success or failure, I'm having some pretty worrying thoughts as to how this proposed government for 'neo'-LWU might turn out.
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