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[Draft] Condemn The Utopian Freesocialists

Postby United States of Natan » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:32 pm

The Security Council,

Seeing that The Utopian Freesocialists have taken over several regions, including but not limited to the Natan Region Defense Force and North American Collective Union

horrified that they do so under the pretense of "protecting" these regions in a thinly-veiled attempt to establish a worldwide empire of regions belonging to others,

Shocked by their refusal to even respond to their victims and accusers, and their RMB suppression of them when confronted,

Angered by their refusal to return control of these regions to their rightful owners,

Hereby Condemns The Utopian Freesocialists.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:45 pm

One of the regions listed has been refounded by presumably yourself and the other has been merely tagged has been left founderless. This list of grievances is not impressive.

Edit: fixes.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:04 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:One of the regions listed has been refounded by presumably yourself and the other has been merely tagged has been left founderless. This list of grievances is not impressive.

Edit: fixes.

The one that was refounded was recently refounded after TUF's puppet CTE'd. And the other's TUF puppet CTE'd, but still has a nation in it. It doesn't mean TUF shouldn't be punished for their actions.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:11 pm

SC Codemnations should be reserved for the worst of the worst. The region you are targeting is just "meh". Just go through the list of passed Condemnations and you will see that this one just doesn't stack up. There's no notoriety here. All they've done was refound one of your regions at one point and have proven themselves incapable of maintaining any sort of "worldwide empire".
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:14 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:SC Codemnations should be reserved for the worst of the worst. The region you are targeting is just "meh". Just go through the list of passed Condemnations and you will see that this one just doesn't stack up. There's no notoriety here. All they've done was refound one of your regions at one point and have proven themselves incapable of maintaining any sort of "worldwide empire".

The count is far higher than just 2 regions. They've done this to a large number.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:25 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:SC Codemnations should be reserved for the worst of the worst. The region you are targeting is just "meh". Just go through the list of passed Condemnations and you will see that this one just doesn't stack up. There's no notoriety here. All they've done was refound one of your regions at one point and have proven themselves incapable of maintaining any sort of "worldwide empire".

The count is far higher than just 2 regions. They've done this to a large number.

Then why not list them? As it stands at the moment your proposal is very sketchy; two regions no one has heard of taken over by another fairly anonymous region.

As it stands at the moment this would not have the proverbial cat in hell's chance of even making quorum.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:56 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:The count is far higher than just 2 regions. They've done this to a large number.

Then why not list them? As it stands at the moment your proposal is very sketchy; two regions no one has heard of taken over by another fairly anonymous region.

As it stands at the moment this would not have the proverbial cat in hell's chance of even making quorum.

I haven't listed more because I don't want the proposal to have a giant list that nobody wants to read, nor do I have the time to find and list the many regions they've taken over.
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Postby John Turner » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:53 am

United States of Natan wrote:nor do I have the time to find and list the many regions they've taken over.

Yet people should take the time to pay this draft any credence? Keep on badge hunting though.....
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:21 am

United States of Natan wrote:The Security Council,

Seeing that The Utopian Freesocialists have taken over several regions, including but not limited to the Natan Region Defense Force and North American Collective Union

2 regions? Whoopdyfuckingdoo.
horrified that they do so under the pretense of "protecting" these regions in a thinly-veiled attempt to establish a worldwide empire of regions belonging to others,

"H".
Shocked by their refusal to even respond to their victims and accusers, and their RMB suppression of them when confronted,

Angered by their refusal to return control of these regions to their rightful owners,

Hereby Condemns The Utopian Freesocialists.

I couldn't even respond to the last few clauses, that's how little I care.
United States of Natan wrote:I haven't listed more because I don't want the proposal to have a giant list that nobody wants to read, nor do I have the time to find and list the many regions they've taken over.

Translation: because I don't feel like doing the work that is required to properly research their region.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:35 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:The Security Council,

Seeing that The Utopian Freesocialists have taken over several regions, including but not limited to the Natan Region Defense Force and North American Collective Union

2 regions? Whoopdyfuckingdoo.
horrified that they do so under the pretense of "protecting" these regions in a thinly-veiled attempt to establish a worldwide empire of regions belonging to others,

"H".
Shocked by their refusal to even respond to their victims and accusers, and their RMB suppression of them when confronted,

Angered by their refusal to return control of these regions to their rightful owners,

Hereby Condemns The Utopian Freesocialists.

I couldn't even respond to the last few clauses, that's how little I care.
United States of Natan wrote:I haven't listed more because I don't want the proposal to have a giant list that nobody wants to read, nor do I have the time to find and list the many regions they've taken over.

Translation: because I don't feel like doing the work that is required to properly research their region.

You forgot about the "including but not limited to" part. It was more than 2.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:40 am

United States of Natan wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Then why not list them? As it stands at the moment your proposal is very sketchy; two regions no one has heard of taken over by another fairly anonymous region.

As it stands at the moment this would not have the proverbial cat in hell's chance of even making quorum.

I haven't listed more because I don't want the proposal to have a giant list that nobody wants to read, nor do I have the time to find and list the many regions they've taken over.

Or in other words I can't be bothered to do more than the minimum amount of work, but please give me a badge anyway.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:43 am

United States of Natan wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:2 regions? Whoopdyfuckingdoo.

"H".

I couldn't even respond to the last few clauses, that's how little I care.

Translation: because I don't feel like doing the work that is required to properly research their region.

You forgot about the "including but not limited to" part. It was more than 2.

I barely know anything about TUF, and what I did know before was that they are tagged as a defender region. One of the regions you've linked to does not exist anymore, and it is unclear as to what happened in the other. Simply saying "trust me, there are more" isn't going to cut it when I am unsatisfied with the examples you've already given.
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Postby Shadoke » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:17 pm

So far nothing but a sham proposal. I would need much more to change my mind as to why they would deserve a condemn


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Postby Esno-Calarin » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:24 pm

Mate, they aren't raiders, if they've only done it to 2 regions, and the others aren't there. Wall of text or not, go ahead and put it. It'll show that if they DON'T want to read that many regions, then there you go, you could probably have a good reason. But nope, just put only 2 regions.
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Postby ROM » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:40 pm

United States of Natan wrote:The Security Council,

Seeing that The Utopian Freesocialists have taken over several regions, including but not limited to the Natan Region Defense Force and North American Collective Union

horrified that they do so under the pretense of "protecting" these regions in a thinly-veiled attempt to establish a worldwide empire of regions belonging to others,

Shocked by their refusal to even respond to their victims and accusers, and their RMB suppression of them when confronted,

Angered by their refusal to return control of these regions to their rightful owners,

Hereby Condemns The Utopian Freesocialists.

How is this 'raiding' region condemnable for raiding two insignificant regions? Against.
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Postby Godless Munky » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:30 pm

United States of Natan wrote:horrified

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:59 am

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United States of Natan wrote:horrified

lol

As the guy who started the negativity train, I would ask for your posts to be more constructive in the future. The reason why the SC has become so crummy is because it is so unwelcoming that people would rather bypass peer review and rely on stamps to get their proposals to vote.
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Postby Preis » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:15 pm

Yes, you certainly need more examples. Just by searching "refounded and protected by the utopian freesocialists", Google gives you 4 pages of regions stolen by TUF. Use them, it will make your argument more appealing.
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