Commend the United States of America

[Ovybia]

Noting the good that the United States of America has done in the world for the hundreds of years of its existence.
Applauding the United States of America's fight against Nazi Germany coming to the aid of Europe in its time of need, the United States of America's fight against the Soviet Union, and the United States of America's current fight against ISIS.
Recognizing that the United States of America has stood as a role model for the world being one of the first nations with a true working democracy.
Hoping that this commendation will encourage other nations to follow in the principles of freedom and justice for all.
Hereby commends the United States of America.

What do you think? Any suggestions. (This is a humorous proposal; I am only proposing this to lighten up the WA with a few laughs.)

[Kaboomlandia]

I'm pretty sure this is one big fat R4 violation.

[Ovybia]

I'm pretty sure this is one big fat R4 violation.

Can you link me to an info topic on an R4 violation? I am not familiar with that. I know others have proposed things like this in the past (such as the "Commend You" by Todd Mcloud) which weren't removed. I thought as long as I was commending a real region and describing what happened in terms of the game, it was valid but I'm not sure.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Noting the good that the United States of America has done in the world for the hundreds of years of its existence.
Applauding the United States of America's fight against Nazi Germany coming to the aid of Europe in its time of need, the United States of America's fight against the Soviet Union, and the United States of America's current fight against ISIS.

Literally the textbook definition of an R4 violation, repeated 4 times.

Recognizing that the United States of America has stood as a role model for the world being one of the first nations with a true working democracy.

The OOC USA is not a democracy, it is a republic.

Hoping that this commendation will encourage other nations to follow in the principles of freedom and justice for all.

But the United States of America is a region, so it would be encouraging other regions...

Hereby commends the United States of America.

I'm pretty sure this is one big fat R4 violation.

Can you link me to an info topic on an R4 violation? I am not familiar with that. I know others have proposed things like this in the past (such as the "Commend You" by Todd Mcloud) which weren't removed. I thought as long as I was commending a real region and describing what happened in terms of the game, it was valid but I'm not sure.

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"(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates."
While your resolution is written in game terms, none of the events you detail in your proposal happened in the NationStates Universe and all of them happened in the "Real World", so it is considered a Real World Reference.

[Ovybia]

Noting the good that the United States of America has done in the world for the hundreds of years of its existence.
Applauding the United States of America's fight against Nazi Germany coming to the aid of Europe in its time of need, the United States of America's fight against the Soviet Union, and the United States of America's current fight against ISIS.

Literally the textbook definition of an R4 violation, repeated 4 times.

Recognizing that the United States of America has stood as a role model for the world being one of the first nations with a true working democracy.

The OOC USA is not a democracy, it is a republic.

Hoping that this commendation will encourage other nations to follow in the principles of freedom and justice for all.

But the United States of America is a region, so it would be encouraging other regions...

Hereby commends the United States of America.

Can you link me to an info topic on an R4 violation? I am not familiar with that. I know others have proposed things like this in the past (such as the "Commend You" by Todd Mcloud) which weren't removed. I thought as long as I was commending a real region and describing what happened in terms of the game, it was valid but I'm not sure.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8809
"(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates."
While your resolution is written in game terms, none of the events you detail in your proposal happened in the NationStates Universe and all of them happened in the "Real World", so it is considered a Real World Reference.

Oh, well. It was a good idea, though. Thanks for the help. Out of curiosity, how did "Commend You" get around this rule? It seems like it referenced things that weren't true in NS.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Oh, well. It was a good idea, though. Thanks for the help. Out of curiosity, how did "Commend You" get around this rule? It seems like it referenced things that weren't true in NS.

The difference is that 'Commend You' spoke of things in an NS fashion and within the confines of SC's Rule 4, which reads, 'Your proposal must read as representing the opinion of the World Assembly, and as targeting a Nation or Region'.

Now, on the subject of commending a region which has done nothing and will continue to do nothing in the interests of putting forward a pro-America stance and thereby only being symbolism for a very certain part of the community, unlike Commend You or Commend the NationStates Community, I am opposed and would be very happy to vote against. NationStates is an international community and it fundamentally delegitimises that community if one were to place a single nation in real life at a greater station than any other nation. Nationalism in real life should not be something recognised or legitimised by the World Assembly in NationStates.

[Todd McCloud]

Noting the good that the United States of America has done in the world for the hundreds of years of its existence.

It appears the region has only existed for five years, perhaps less, judging by the history report.

Applauding the United States of America's fight against Nazi Germany coming to the aid of Europe in its time of need, the United States of America's fight against the Soviet Union, and the United States of America's current fight against ISIS.

Unless these are actual regional events, they're farcical. Evidence is needed for these claims. Also, with respect to ISIS, that is a region currently founded (and passworded) by a mod-controlled nation. So you'll need a lot of evidence to support this clause, otherwise people won't believe this.

Recognizing that the United States of America has stood as a role model for the world being one of the first nations with a true working democracy.

I thought we were commending a region. It's a nation now? Also I don't believe this is a role-model region for the region World, which appears to be a puppet dump.

[Dark Commander]

I've seen many good joke resolutions, this is not one of them. Every rule violation in this proposal has already been identified, so I have nothing else to say.

[Ovybia]

Well, the best way to learn is through trying. This definitely didn't improve my reputation in the NS community but I'll propose a better resolution next time.

[Todd McCloud]

Well, the best way to learn is through trying. This definitely didn't improve my reputation in the NS community but I'll propose a better resolution next time.

People have survived worse. You'll definitely survive this. Just learn from it and make a better one next time.

[Baksharshahats]

The delegate of Baksharshahats would like to state that the US itself is RESPONSIBLE for the creation of ISIS.Actually not only ISIS but the whole concept of Radical Islam.
US started radical Islam as a control tool for middle eastern oil bank in the 1960s. This led to the formation of the islamist Muhajedeen in the 1970s,which were exported into Afghanistan to fight the secular regime there.Also during the anti Soviet jihad in Afghanistan,Bin Laden and his fighters received American & Saudi funding.


The 2003 American invasion & occupation of Iraq created the pre conditions for radical Sunni groups,like ISIS,to take root.America unwisely destroyed Saddam Hussein's secular state machinary & replaced it with a predominantly Shi'ite administration.The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.here are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia. It is this third, neo-Cold War battle that made U.S. foreign policy makers decide to take the risk of arming Islamist rebels in Syria, because Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, is a key Russian ally. Rather embarrassingly, many of these Syrian rebels have now turned out to be ISIS thugs, who are openly brandishing American-made M16 Assault rifles.America’s Middle East policy revolves around oil and Israel. The invasion of Iraq has partially satisfied Washington’s thirst for oil, but ongoing air strikes in Syria and economic sanctions on Iran have everything to do with Israel. The goal is to deprive Israel’s neighboring enemies, Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestine’s Hamas, of crucial Syrian and Iranian support.
America is using ISIS in three ways: to attack its enemies in the Middle East, to serve as a pretext for U.S. military intervention abroad, and at home to foment a manufactured domestic threat, used to justify the unprecedented expansion of invasive domestic surveillance.

By rapidly increasing both government secrecy and surveillance, Mr. Obama’s government is increasing its power to watch its citizens, while diminishing its citizens’ power to watch their government. Terrorism is an excuse to justify mass surveillance, in preparation for mass revolt.

The so-called “War on Terror” should be seen for what it really is: a pretext for maintaining a dangerously oversized U.S. military. The two most powerful groups in the U.S. foreign policy establishment are the Israel lobby, which directs U.S. Middle East policy, and the Military-Industrial-Complex, which profits from the former group’s actions.

In fact, more than seventy American companies and individuals have won up to $27 billion in contracts for work in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan over the last three years, according to a recent study by the Center for Public Integrity. According to the study, nearly 75 per cent of these private companies had employees or board members, who either served in, or had close ties to, the executive branch of the Republican and Democratic administrations, members of Congress, or the highest levels of the military.

In 1997, a U.S. Department of Defense report stated, “the data show a strong correlation between U.S. involvement abroad and an increase in terrorist attacks against the U.S.” Truth is, the only way America can win the “War On Terror” is if it stops giving terrorists the motivation and the resources to attack America. Terrorism is the symptom; American imperialism in the Middle East is the cancer. Put simply, the War on Terror is terrorism; only, it is conducted on a much larger scale by people with jets and missiles.

Thankyou,
Delegate of Baksharshahats

[RiderSyl]

Roleplay doesn't belong in the SC.

Also, a 5-month-old thread? Really?

[Wrapper]

Take that stuff to General.

Proposal's been abandoned. Thread locked.