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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:14 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:A passing thought on the legality issue before I go to bed: if you were to word it that Bitely had purchased ad space in the WAHQ to blah blah blah I think there would be no problem at all.

Agreed.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:26 am

Thanks again.

Note to all: the draft has been edited with a few minor tweaks here and there -- including the addition of "in the WA Headquarters" to the clause about ad space -- and it appears in the OP in more or less its final form. It will be submitted soon. If anybody has any last-minute suggestions, speak them now!
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Postby John Turner » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:50 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Thanks again.

Note to all: the draft has been edited with a few minor tweaks here and there -- including the addition of "in the WA Headquarters" to the clause about ad space -- and it appears in the OP in more or less its final form. It will be submitted soon. If anybody has any last-minute suggestions, speak them now!


It looks good enough. Send it to the floor before some other stupid bullshit is payed into quorum.
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Change "1000%" to "over 1000%". They have more than 11 nations now.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:06 am

It looks good, but I would question why Bitely needs a commendation.
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Postby The Sheika » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:44 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:It looks good, but I would question why Bitely needs a commendation.


Bitely does not necessarily need a commendation, but he is looking for one on his terms. Going this route pretty undermines everything they have done; from accusations of the WA being run by an elite group to their continued dismissal of any and all logic. They will get a badge, but anybody who clicks on it will be able to see that all of their "I am against the WA elite" is absolute garbage, doubly so when the commendation states that he will be inducted into the elites.

Self damning to the Assembly, maybe. Harming Bitely's overall cause, definitely.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:50 pm

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:It looks good, but I would question why Bitely needs a commendation.

Bitely does not necessarily need a commendation, but he is looking for one on his terms. Going this route pretty undermines everything they have done; from accusations of the WA being run by an elite group to their continued dismissal of any and all logic. They will get a badge, but anybody who clicks on it will be able to see that all of their "I am against the WA elite" is absolute garbage, doubly so when the commendation states that he will be inducted into the elites.

Self damning to the Assembly, maybe. Harming Bitely's overall cause, definitely.

But people who don't click on it could then think that these actions are encouraged. This would also set the precedence that babbling about élites means one can actually get someone a commendation.

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:58 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:This would also set the precedence that babbling about élites means one can actually get someone a commendation.

Not necessarily. If someone were to only babble about elites, that's one thing. If someone were to babble about the elites and then pour a couple hundred bucks or so into the site for stamps and ads and postmaster general status, well, damn, that kind of hypocritical behavior should be encouraged, yes?

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:58 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
The Sheika wrote:Bitely does not necessarily need a commendation, but he is looking for one on his terms. Going this route pretty undermines everything they have done; from accusations of the WA being run by an elite group to their continued dismissal of any and all logic. They will get a badge, but anybody who clicks on it will be able to see that all of their "I am against the WA elite" is absolute garbage, doubly so when the commendation states that he will be inducted into the elites.

Self damning to the Assembly, maybe. Harming Bitely's overall cause, definitely.

But people who don't click on it could then think that these actions are encouraged.

I doubt people who don't click on a link relating to Bitely would even know who he is, or yet if they did, care.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:40 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:But people who don't click on it could then think that these actions are encouraged.

I doubt people who don't click on a link relating to Bitely would even know who he is, or yet if they did, care.

Yet, there are many adverts plastering the WAHQ and much of NationStates. For those who click on that but do not click on the badge itself, this would be interpreted as player-wide sanction for his actions to this point.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:54 pm

With all due respect, I have never written resolutions for people who refused to read them. There's an entire resolution to itself about that, which I'm sure you've heard of.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:40 am

and...submitted!

Be sure to check it it out and approve if you have that extra-special delegate badge! 8)
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Postby Nouvelle o France » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:48 pm

While we can't express Delegate Approval for this proposal, we shall support it when it comes to vote.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:01 pm

Submitted... by Johnny and the Contusions? Dude, don't make me barf. 8)

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Postby JohnnyandtheContusions » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:07 pm

A "special" brownie to whoever can tell me where that joke's from. ;)

(Without Googling.)
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:09 pm

JohnnyandtheContusions wrote:A "special" brownie to whoever can tell me where that joke's from. ;)

Ummm, I did mention barf. Dave Barry.

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Postby JohnnyandtheContusions » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:23 pm

Sorry, I've been dipping my finger in the batter a little.

Enjoy!:

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Postby Mediobogdum » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:06 pm

Excellent stuff! He'll hate it :)
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:09 pm

Mediobogdum wrote:Excellent stuff! He'll hate it :)

Are you referring to this commendation, or the brownie? :p

I'm a little on the fence about this, but I'm leaning towards supporting it. The wave of garbage that's been pouring through the SC doors lately can at least be partly contributed to him, and giving him the exact opposite of what we wants will overall be a good thing.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:31 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Mediobogdum wrote:Excellent stuff! He'll hate it :)

Are you referring to this commendation, or the brownie? :p

I'm a little on the fence about this, but I'm leaning towards supporting it. The wave of garbage that's been pouring through the SC doors lately can at least be partly contributed to him, and giving him the exact opposite of what we wants will overall be a good thing.

What gives you the impression Bitely wants to be condemned?

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:33 pm

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Are you referring to this commendation, or the brownie? :p

I'm a little on the fence about this, but I'm leaning towards supporting it. The wave of garbage that's been pouring through the SC doors lately can at least be partly contributed to him, and giving him the exact opposite of what we wants will overall be a good thing.

What gives you the impression Bitely wants to be condemned?

Would the fact that Bitely has sent mass TGs asking for approvals on his own condemnation attempt give you any clues?
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:46 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:What gives you the impression Bitely wants to be condemned?

Would the fact that Bitely has sent mass TGs asking for approvals on his own condemnation attempt give you any clues?

It leads me to believe that he is trying to get any attention he can get whether negative or positive, so no that really isn't a a ground breaking revelation by any measure.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:54 pm

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Would the fact that Bitely has sent mass TGs asking for approvals on his own condemnation attempt give you any clues?

It leads me to believe that he is trying to get any attention he can get whether negative or positive, so no that really isn't a a ground breaking revelation by any measure.

Maybe. Except that being praised by the very "Elite" he despises, and in a supremely ironic and sarcastic manner, is not something I think he wants.

If he's been telegramming folks asking them to approve this proposal, of course, I'll gladly defer to your wisdom.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:56 pm

*Erika starts laughing*
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Postby East Catalina » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:00 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:*Erika starts laughing*
"You want to COMMEND the whiny, hypocritical, time-wasting bastard? Don't you think that will just encourage his idiotic behavior?"

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