[Resuscitated Draft] Condemn Bitely

[Sedgistan]

IC and OOC are both fine here. Advertising your proposal in someone else's thread isn't, though.

[The LBP Union]

IC and OOC are both fine here. Advertising your proposal in someone else's thread isn't, though.

Sorry about that. While I have been redirecting the discussion on my repeal to this thread for good measure I understand and won't do it again.

[Stellonia]

OOC: Would you mind taking into account that "World Space Administration" has already been repealed?

[The LBP Union]

OOC: Would you mind taking into account that "World Space Administration" has already been repealed?

Yeah we've gone over this but the author seems to not acknowledge that the WSA wasn't a gigantic threat to world security.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: Would you mind taking into account that "World Space Administration" has already been repealed?

Yeah we've gone over this but the author seems to not acknowledge that the WSA wasn't a gigantic threat to world security.

OOC: the author is on vacation. Since before the repeal. He literally can't acknowledge that right now.

[The LBP Union]

Ooh ok, I thought it repealed a while ago

[Imperium Anglorum]

Ooh ok, I thought it repealed a while ago

It was. And hopefully, the massive fanfare that was that repeal will convince Excidium Planetis not to go ahead with this foolhardy manoeuvre.

[Bitely]

Ooh ok, I thought it repealed a while ago

It was. And hopefully, the massive fanfare that was that repeal will convince Excidium Planetis not to go ahead with this foolhardy manoeuvre.

Scrolling threw his mail Prince Gregory says: "So Where is my badge? I come back from vacation hoping that this would pass; but not just another example in how useless the WASC has become."

[Antartide]

It was. And hopefully, the massive fanfare that was that repeal will convince Excidium Planetis not to go ahead with this foolhardy manoeuvre.

Scrolling threw his mail Prince Gregory says: "So Where is my badge? I come back from vacation hoping that this would pass; but not just another example in how useless the WASC has become."

I can confirm. Really, the WSA was great! It simply made it easier for underdeveloped (3rd world) nations to explore the cosmos. Surely not Condemn-worthy. If you are upset at Bitely's WA "cheating", which already got him expelled from the WA, make a Getting Help Request for "WA multiing".

[The LBP Union]

While I previously opposed this proposal for a completely different reason, I now oppose it because Bitely is trolling and doesn't deserve the attention.

[The Silver Sentinel]

While I previously opposed this proposal for a completely different reason, I now oppose it because Bitely is trolling and doesn't deserve the attention.

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How is he trolling? People are not forced to respond to his posts on the forums.

[Caracasus]

While I previously opposed this proposal for a completely different reason, I now oppose it because Bitely is trolling and doesn't deserve the attention.

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How is he trolling? People are not forced to respond to his posts on the forums.

I'm honestly not saying he is trolling or not, but no-one has to respond to any posts anyone makes on the forums. Including posts made by trolls.

[Petrolheadia]

I would vote for it. But mostly because Bitely is so obnoxious he puts up banners advertising his nation.

[Central Asian Republics]

because Bitely is trolling

I wouldn't exactly expect a troll to spend so much on ad space and mass telegrams, but I do suspect that he's just a rich kid.

How is he trolling? People are not forced to respond to his posts on the forums.

Um, I've never seen a troll that forces people to respond.

[The LBP Union]

While I previously opposed this proposal for a completely different reason, I now oppose it because Bitely is trolling and doesn't deserve the attention.

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How is he trolling? People are not forced to respond to his posts on the forums.

They are not forced, but rather misled into doing so. That's what trolling is. Stirring up negative attention for laughs. He's obviously just doing all this to make people angry and laughing at their reaction. If you allow him to have that attention by giving him a gigantic badge then you have just let him win.
Even continuing this thread is of excess, which is why I am not going to post any further and hope you all will do the same.

[Excidium Planetis]

How is he trolling? People are not forced to respond to his posts on the forums.

They are not forced, but rather misled into doing so. That's what trolling is. Stirring up negative attention for laughs. He's obviously just doing all this to make people angry and laughing at their reaction. If you allow him to have that attention by giving him a gigantic badge then you have just let him win.
Even continuing this thread is of excess, which is why I am not going to post any further and hope you all will do the same.

People don't usually pay money for adspace to troll... That seems rather excessive.

[Amuaplye]

"This is the thing I have been waiting for. This will gut the basis of Bitely's rampage against the so-called 'WA Elite.' For."

[Terrallamus]

Funny that this is getting so much agreement. When I submitted a Condemn Bitely proposal, most people said that he'd like to be condemned and thus we shouldn't do it. Actually I think a few of those people are the same people praising this. Is it just because this is written far better?

[Terrallamus]

It was. And hopefully, the massive fanfare that was that repeal will convince Excidium Planetis not to go ahead with this foolhardy manoeuvre.

Scrolling threw his mail Prince Gregory says: "So Where is my badge? I come back from vacation hoping that this would pass; but not just another example in how useless the WASC has become."

See? It's obvious he is trolling and just wants a badge. for that reason, i am against this proposal.

[Riftey]

Eh; I'm going to pretty much just quote myself from another thread.

When Charzilla proposed a unified GCR; we laughed and moved on. When realm persisted to jump from region to region; we laughed and moved on. This just is another time filler.

As it has been repeated time and time again yet hasn't sunk in; I'll do it. The best way to deal with an unsophisticated, insignificant and mislead collective is not to condemn them. Just ignore them. There is no reason to even react to any matter unless it's needed. Bitely holds no true power of substance and as such there is no need to even deal with the matter.

Those putting in their signature that they stand against Bitely; Why? Does it achieve anything? Has he accomplished anything? There is no need to stand against someone when their feet have been placed firmly in one spot as they ran their mouth. Unfortanate for them that while they mouthed off they didn't realise the fact a nice deep hole was being dug around them. We have no reason to yell across the hole.

Segregation. That's all there is to it. So - Id say drop this futile attempt and move on with your lives.

To pull this all to being relevant - By order of the Prophet; The Hummingbird Republic of Sanctum and all other region the United Church of Riftanity has it's claws dug into shall continue to vote against any proposal recognising unworthy member states. This obviously includes Bitely and all associates. Mwah.

Anyone who has questions or comments to make is free to shoot me a telegram or contact me over skype (Cooloderzsid).

[The Silver Sentinel]

"This is the thing I have been waiting for. This will gut the basis of Bitely's rampage against the so-called 'WA Elite.' For."

How?

[Excidium Planetis]

As it has been repeated time and time again yet hasn't sunk in; I'll do it. The best way to deal with an unsophisticated, insignificant and mislead collective is not to condemn them. Just ignore them.

I ignored Bitely for a month, and they didn't go away. In fact, things got worse in my absence. People willing to shell out cash for ad space won't just go away quietly when you ignore them.

There is no reason to even react to any matter unless it's needed.

And it isn't needed?

Bitely holds no true power of substance and as such there is no need to even deal with the matter.

Bitely holds enough monetary power to buy ad space and essentially get a resolution passed by money alone. I'd say they hold power... maybe enough to be part of the WA Elite?

Those putting in their signature that they stand against Bitely; Why? Does it achieve anything?

No, which is why it isn't in my signature.

Has he accomplished anything?

Yes.

[Wrapper]

As it has been repeated time and time again yet hasn't sunk in; I'll do it. The best way to deal with an unsophisticated, insignificant and mislead collective is not to condemn them. Just ignore them.

I ignored Bitely for a month, and they didn't go away. In fact, things got worse in my absence. People willing to shell out cash for ad space won't just go away quietly when you ignore them.

Okay. So. All I'm getting out of this is, you want Bitely to go away. And... you think a condemnation badge is going to accomplish that?

If the stuff he's doing is still bothering you, then perhaps you aren't doing a good job of ignoring him.

[Riftey]

I ignored Bitely for a month, and they didn't go away. In fact, things got worse in my absence. People willing to shell out cash for ad space won't just go away quietly when you ignore them.

He isn't just going to go away. However just like other crackpots - They just fade out of relevance. Hear of Charzilla? Jachafter? Realm? Not really.

And it isn't needed?

Fuck no. He doesn't deserve one and that's why you'll find nothing recognising him will pass.

Bitely holds enough monetary power to buy ad space and essentially get a resolution passed by money alone. I'd say they hold power... maybe enough to be part of the WA Elite?

There's no way to get a resolution passed by money alone. I've kinda moved passed the stigma I stupidly created for myself when I started on here; But whatever. I am very well off (Parent is an artist) and can / have thrown money at this game. I've bought a fuckload of stamps and such. However with all this insight i'm going to be blunt; You can't buy a resolution. Money won't pass a resolution if it's useless.

He isn't part of the WA Elite and he won't ever be. I feel the concept of WA Elite to be a laughable one. A grouping of regions run the WA. All the GCRs and Large UCRs. Sure he is a member of one of the large UCRs; However it takes the majority of these influential regions to agree for something to pass.
If he wishes to purchase adspace; Good for him. I may do the same and have some anti-bitely propaganda

(Not bragging just before someone pounces for me returning to some past unsavoury behaviours)

[Excidium Planetis]

I ignored Bitely for a month, and they didn't go away. In fact, things got worse in my absence. People willing to shell out cash for ad space won't just go away quietly when you ignore them.

Okay. So. All I'm getting out of this is, you want Bitely to go away. And... you think a condemnation badge is going to accomplish that?

No. But if not Condemning him doesn't make him go away, and Condemning him doesn't go away, why not Condemn him?

If the stuff he's doing is still bothering you, then perhaps you aren't doing a good job of ignoring him.

It's really hard to ignore the Bitely Ads. I appreciate his money funding this site, but do I have to have promotions for his country on here?

He isn't just going to go away. However just like other crackpots - They just fade out of relevance. Hear of Charzilla? Jachafter? Realm? Not really.

So if ignoring him doesn't make him stop, why would I want to ignore him?

Fuck no. He doesn't deserve one and that's why you'll find nothing recognising him will pass.

What the hell does this guy have to do to deserve a Condemnation? He's clearly extremely annoying and a cheater, and to boot passed a resolution that damaged the space industry in many nations. You can get Condemned for literally just killing people in RPs, why the hell does Bitely not deserve a Condemnation?

There's no way to get a resolution passed by money alone. I've kinda moved passed the stigma I stupidly created for myself when I started on here; But whatever. I am very well off (Parent is an artist) and can / have thrown money at this game. I've bought a fuckload of stamps and such. However with all this insight i'm going to be blunt; You can't buy a resolution. Money won't pass a resolution if it's useless.

Money plus stupidity sure got a useless resolution passed.

He isn't part of the WA Elite and he won't ever be.

He will if the Commend resolution passes... it will literally be written into the resolution.

I feel the concept of WA Elite to be a laughable one.

Me too, at least in regards to Bitely's idea of a NS conspiracy. But there certainly is a pretty small group of individuals who author most of the WA legislation. And no matter what way people vote, no resolution ever passed without someone authoring it first. Those who write the resolutions control the WA.

If he wishes to purchase adspace; Good for him. I may do the same and have some anti-bitely propaganda

Good for him, good for the site, poor for me. Although I like the idea of rich players slandering each other on the ad space. Would make NS more interesting.