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Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:45 am**

Aware that Taijitu provides a harbour for nations fleeing oppression.
Noting that Taijitu is a complete democracy, and all WA-Member nations have the right to choose their delegate.
Recognizing that Taijitu's Founder has NOT stripped the delegate position of Executive Powers, meaning that the founder, Taijitu Founder, is not the sole ruler and the nations are the ones who choose their leader.
Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who help nations fleeing their delegate's oppression,
Hereby Commends Taijitu.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:01 am**

This proposal is...well...lacking in content. However it is on a region I feel could gain support in having recognition from the WA. Other then that don't really have much to say.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:35 am**

Aware that Taijitu provides a harbour for nations fleeing oppression.
Noting that Taijitu is a complete democracy, and all WA-Member nations have the right to choose their delegate.
Understanding that Taijitu has no endorsement laws, limits, or caps, and lets you run your own nation as you see fit.
Recognizing that Taijitu's Founder has NOT stripped the delegate position of Executive Powers, meaning that the founder, Taijitu Founder, is not the sole ruler and the nations are the ones who choose their leader.
Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who assist nations fleeing their delegate's oppression,
Hereby Commends Taijitu.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:50 am**

Riftdania wrote:This proposal is...well...lacking in content. However it is on a region I feel could gain support in having recognition from the WA. Other then that don't really have much to say.

As Riftdania said, it needed more work and content. However, since you submitted the proposal, you cannot change it now. I highly doubt it will reach quorum.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:52 am**

This is... is ridiculous draft! Replace Taijitu with Cimmeria (or thousand others regions), and situation is in principle equally commendworthy.

Against

Note that my example strongly represents the ideas of freedom of movement, and free delegate elections. Password is 'Padawan'.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:56 am**

You do realize there are a thousand other regions just like the one you are trying to commend?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:45 am**

As a former Delegate of Taijitu, I will be frank. This proposal needs a lot of work to be passable. While it's not my place to judge whether or not our region is deserving of a commendation, I would very much prefer that this proposal is cleaned up and greatly expanded if you're serious about submitting this.

As others have said, in its current state this proposal does nothing to highlight why you think Taijitu in particular needs a commendation. Plenty of regions elect their delegate, and plenty of regions leave their delegacies executive. Again, if you are serious about submitting this I recommend you ask long-time members of the community what Taijitu could be legitimately commended for.

In any case, thank you for the consideration and I'm happy you feel strongly enough about our region to write up what you did.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:16 am**

Also, didn't Taijitu once take part in a coup in TRR? Not very commend-worthy

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:48 am**

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Also, didn't Taijitu once take part in a coup in TRR? Not very commend-worthy

You liberate and defend hundreds of regions and they commend you, but you screw one goat and...

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:51 am**

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Also, didn't Taijitu once take part in a coup in TRR? Not very commend-worthy

Well if you ask me, raiding TRR is probably one of the more commend-worthy parts.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:47 pm**

Going to join the others who have already commented on this draft by saying it lacks content. The proposal currently describes several regions in the game and can be applied directly to them. Do a bit of research and add content that is solely representative to Taijitu. For instance, I am pretty sure their wiki can be added to this draft without getting into Rule 4 territory.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:38 pm**

The following submitted proposal is in violation of Rule 4 of the Security Council (violation is in boldface)

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: eastkeep_1437313055
Commend Taijitu

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Taijitu

Proposed by: Eastkeep

Description: Aware that the region of Taijitu provides a harbour for nations fleeing oppression.
Noting that Taijitu is a complete democracy, and all WA-Member nations have the right to choose their delegate.
Understanding that Taijitu has no endorsement laws, limits, or caps, and lets you run your own nation as you see fit.
Recognizing that Taijitu's Founder has NOT stripped the delegate position of Executive Powers, meaning that the founder, Taijitu Founder, is not the sole ruler and the nations are the ones who choose their leader.
Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who assist nations fleeing their delegate's oppression,
Hereby Commends Taijitu.

Approvals: 4 (Bitely, Jellydom, Alternate Universe 912, The Midwestern Atlantic Embassy)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 11 hours

WA Proposals cannot contain personal pronouns when dealing with nations (see this post). While the proposal in the original post was legal, it was still rather nondescript and nebulous. As stated earlier, it could use more specifics. Your heart appears to be in the right place, but the document needs more work.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:58 pm**

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Also, didn't Taijitu once take part in a coup in TRR? Not very commend-worthy

They were being used as foot soldiers for DEN for a while (not the DEN recently used as a sock puppet of the Black Riders) to help them field more update bodies, even before the invasion of the Rejected Realms by mass ejection. They weren't so much the planners as willing grunts in need of more experienced direction.

They were most notable as invaders, because of how adamantly they insisted that their region weren't invaders, even after the mass ejection invasion into the RR. In that respect they were very much like their predecessor region: the Lexicon.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:59 am**

Myro's post covers my thoughts very well.

I just wanted to add on the Raids/Defenses issue - I know people are not used to such a varied history in a UCR, but it happens

However, I believe we can say that the tradition of participating in defenses has been a much stronger one than the singular action in TRR or Taijitu's raiding periods.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:05 pm**

I see you want to paint Taijitu as a target for regional destruction, eh? Look at the last few regions that have been Commended and tell me what trend you notice.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:19 pm**

Atomic Utopia wrote:I see you want to paint Taijitu as a target for regional destruction, eh? Look at the last few regions that have been Commended and tell me what trend you notice.

Well we have to go all the way back to July 2012 to see a region commended. The Featured Region Followers seems to be doing quite nicely. Commend the NationStates community was repealed as it was a terrible resolution written as a joke, and Wysteria is thriving. Just ask The Bruce, who has been commended since.

Next time you may want to do some research.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:21 pm**

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Atomic Utopia wrote:I see you want to paint Taijitu as a target for regional destruction, eh? Look at the last few regions that have been Commended and tell me what trend you notice.

Well we have to go all the way back to July 2012 to see a region commended. The Featured Region Followers seems to be doing quite nicely. Commend the NationStates community was repealed as it was a terrible resolution written as a joke, and Wysteria is thriving. Just ask The Bruce, who has been commended since.

Next time you may want to do some research.

Thank you for correcting me, sorry for the mistake.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:26 pm**

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Atomic Utopia wrote:I see you want to paint Taijitu as a target for regional destruction, eh? Look at the last few regions that have been Commended and tell me what trend you notice.

Well we have to go all the way back to July 2012 to see a region commended. The Featured Region Followers seems to be doing quite nicely. Commend the NationStates community was repealed as it was a terrible resolution written as a joke, and Wysteria is thriving. Just ask The Bruce, who has been commended since.

Next time you may want to do some research.

No we don't. Renegade Islands Alliance ring any bells?

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:48 pm**

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Well we have to go all the way back to July 2012 to see a region commended. The Featured Region Followers seems to be doing quite nicely. Commend the NationStates community was repealed as it was a terrible resolution written as a joke, and Wysteria is thriving. Just ask The Bruce, who has been commended since.

Next time you may want to do some research.

No we don't. Renegade Islands Alliance ring any bells?

Hmm. I'll be damned. RIA is not really a region though, it is an alliance of several regions so that doesn't apply.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:11 pm**

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:No we don't. Renegade Islands Alliance ring any bells?

Hmm. I'll be damned. RIA is not really a region though, it is an alliance of several regions so that doesn't apply.

The RIA is a region, not an alliance of regions.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:24 pm**

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Hmm. I'll be damned. RIA is not really a region though, it is an alliance of several regions so that doesn't apply.

The RIA is a region, not an alliance of regions.

Shit you are right. My bad, I had it in my head the FRA.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:19 pm**

Aware that Europe provides a harbour for nations fleeing oppression.

Noting that Europe is a complete democracy, and all WA-Member nations have the right to choose their delegate.

Recognizing that Europe's Founder has NOT stripped the delegate position of Executive Powers, meaning that the founder, EuroFounder, is not the sole ruler and the nations are the ones who choose their leader.

Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who help nations fleeing their delegate's oppression,

Hereby Commends Europe.

<snark> Fixed it for you. </snark>

However, on the serious side, this argument for Commend Taijitu is much too ... totally lacking in any real content whatsoever.

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