[PASSED] Liberate Congress of Armed Proletarian States

[Pevvania]

Nice try, lol.

Seems these days that the Stalinist cure for military impotency is using the World Assembly to fight your battles for you. Military incompetence at its finest.

And if any of you had any doubt, this was a pretty obvious ploy on the part of Misley to invade CAPS and restart his little statist tea party. Bravo for fooling the Security Council into believing your intentions were pure. (Which, if we're honest, isn't that hard to do.)

You guys need to up your game. First you failed to annex Zentari, and now not even a Security Council vote can deliver you victory. It's quite amusing, really, that a region of your size and stature can still get beaten by one of far fewer resources, troops and nations.

We'll still be here, though, if you want to try anything else.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=12318819

Figured this was going to happen. Shame too, as I was really looking forward to a good fight over it. Oh well, c'est la vie.

[Misley]

A craven admission that they didn't stand a chance against the liberation. Saw it coming, but this gave very valuable insight into Libertatem's continued military incompetence.

I'm still interested in seeing this passed, even though it's nothing more than a symbolic gesture at this point.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

You guys need to up your game. First you failed to annex Zentari, and now not even a Security Council vote can deliver you victory. It's quite amusing, really, that a region of your size and stature can still get beaten by one of far fewer resources, troops and nations.

We'll still be here, though, if you want to try anything else.

Yes... Because it was such a monumental victory to pull out two nations and let the region CTE so you could refound it. Such a cunning plan you contrived. It really is a shame you weren't able to hold Zionist Empire. When all else fails, you resort to smear campaigns. Bravo.....

[Kaboomlandia]

Could this liberation possibly lead to another refounding, this time by friendly nations?

[Misley]

Could this liberation possibly lead to another refounding, this time by friendly nations?

No. The new password is established by the region founder, which will not be removed by a Liberation proposal even if the founder ceases to exist.

[Pevvania]

A craven admission that they didn't stand a chance against the liberation. Saw it coming, but this gave very valuable insight into Libertatem's continued military incompetence.

Continued military incompetence? Nabbing a region that we rightfully stole* indicates more incompetence than going through the World Assembly to overcompensate for your military's weakness? OK m8

I'm still interested in seeing this passed, even though it's nothing more than a symbolic gesture at this point.

Please do so. That way we'll get a nice badge over our region indicating that it has indeed been liberated - from Communist aggression.

*Theft is only justified when it's in compensation for a crime. In our case, you shook a dead tree in the form of your tag raid against BenCap. Sure, it was dead anyway, but it was still our tree.

[Zenny]

Incredibly disappointed in your conduct as well as your region's, Pev. Just proving all the critics right.

My statement on the refounding: http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_ ... #p12320586

[The New United States]

Someone who is far more important than you.

Modesty > Popularity

Maybe you guys should actually consider coordinating yourselves, instead of spewing shit no one cares about. In case it hasn't dawned on you, there are far more liberals on NS than conservatives, so you aren't going to get much sympathy for your cause. Instead of putting up a fight, you chickenshit out and call it a unprecedented victory. You realize even the Nazi's like to put up a fight correct?

Sympathy isn't something we need or desire of the leftist NS community. If we wanted sympathy, we wouldn't be waging The War on Communism.

It won't last for long. I already have a repeal ready, just to make sure you don't get to keep a badge. You are after prestige? Then we take it away. Just ask Krull, and AMOM. I am sure they will regale you with wonderful tales of their badges being stripped from them.

Any badges are just superfluous. We've already won.

[Funkadelia]

It's really upsetting to see REATO grief and destroy a region and a community in the face of the entire world at large. Lazarus will still be voting in favor, despite the lack of actual effects. I really can't express enough how disappointing it is to see REATO act so belligerently.

[Nintendo Landia]

Liberate Congress of Armed Proletarian States

The Security Council,

Recalling the Congress of Armed Proletarian States (hereinafter "CAPS") as an region dedicated to fostering interregional cooperation among regions;

Realizing that the Founder of CAPS relinquished executive authority to decentralize power of the region in keeping with its democratic ideals;

Noting that ideological forces which had declared a "war on communism" invaded CAPS and removed all legitimate native electors in the region;

Observing that these occupying ideological forces have since placed restrictions barring entry to CAPS by its legitimate native electors;

Observing further that these occupying ideological forces have severed all connections between CAPS and the regions participating in its planned program of interregional cooperation;

Taking into consideration that diplomatic attempts by legitimate native electors to return CAPS to native control were rebuffed by its invaders;

Recognizing that the legitimate native electors to CAPS have a right to support a liberation of the region from these occupying forces;

Hereby Liberates Congress of Armed Proletarian States.

Read that first line
"Recalling the Congress of Armed Proletarian States (hereinafter "CAPS") as an region dedicated to fostering interregional cooperation among regions;"
"an region"?
I must vote against this because we cannot implement a law which has a spelling error.

[The great Imperial army]

Hurray the region has been refounded

[Nodin]

Yes... Because it was such a monumental victory to pull out two nations and let the region CTE so you could refound it. Such a cunning plan you contrived. It really is a shame you weren't able to hold Zionist Empire. When all else fails, you resort to smear campaigns. Bravo.....

Refounding CAPS while it was in the spotlight is a monumental victory for Libertatem. It was a bold and risky maneuver. All of you who wanted to deprive Libertatem of a trophy that they legitimately and cannily won, should have been on refound watch. Misley admitted he anticipated a refound, yet made no move to intercept it. From start to finish, Misley’s Lib spotlights his military shortcomings. His reaction to being bested by Libertatem was shamefully unsportsmanlike, as were the reactions of other leftists posting in this thread.

Seems these days that the Stalinist cure for military impotency is using the World Assembly to fight your battles for you. Military incompetence at its finest.

There’s no love lost between Libertatem and Nazi/fascist regions. Libertatem targets, or rather tries to target our interests as often as they do communist interests, but I’ve no problem recognizing enemy achievement.

If nothing else, Misley is resourceful. He’s realized the only way he can deal with his enemies is by sucking up to Gameplay and SC personalities. Misley has difficulty rallying the Left militarily because he has none of La P’s charisma and passion. He’s alienated the anarchist anti-fascist crusaders who once provided a considerable amount of support to Antifa ops. You can bet Libertatem would have had some competition refounding CAPS had the anarchists been on watch.

[Muh Roads]

Much agreed Nodin and thank you. See you on the battlefield!

[Noricum Novum]

I thank you for so openly showing your true face. No longer will anyone have to have any doubt regarding your intentions or ability to react to defeat in a mature manner. It has all been laid bare for the world to see in your own words.

[Island of the Lonely]

And this proposal is completely useless. With this refound there is absolutely no reason to pass this, except, as aforementioned, for symbolic meaning. The SC however is packed full of useless liberations so I don't think I will be voting for this one.

[Naginii]

With "[INSTA-REPEAL DRAFT 2] Repeal SC#180: Liberate CAPS" prop already on-deck in another thread and gaining support, this prop that has 10k votes for it, is worse than useless — it's a complete and utter waste of time.

[Funkadelia]

With "[INSTA-REPEAL DRAFT 2] Repeal SC#180: Liberate CAPS" prop already on-deck in another thread and gaining support, this prop that has 10k votes for it, is worse than useless — it's a complete and utter waste of time.

It wasn't when it went to vote.

[The Republic of Nuhm]

I agree with the points in this resolution. We need not barriers imposed upon us. Everything should be peaceful and wars allowed to start. We need not too much peace or too much war. Resolution gained my full support.

[Naginii]

With "[INSTA-REPEAL DRAFT 2] Repeal SC#180: Liberate CAPS" prop already on-deck in another thread and gaining support, this prop that has 10k votes for it, is worse than useless — it's a complete and utter waste of time.

It wasn't when it went to vote.

Fair point, nicely stated and well presented. Perhaps we were a bit too abrupt. It is our view is that a region that holds exactly two pups from a takeover happening months previous, when the liberation should've been proposed, is now a waste of effort with most natives moved-on elsewhere. I may indeed have missed the specific dialogue on this point, but I never got the sense that the vast rank-and-file of former natives of this region were demanding return. Indeed, from everything posted here, it seems this was always more a race by interested parties against a likely refound, which has now happened. If that's incorrect, I'm happy to be so advised.

We hold that not every little regional crisis deserves or warrants WASC intervention, and would like to see a bit more discipline in vetting what makes it to the floor. This is one of those instances where the effort was too late to help, and only makes this body look a bit foolish for expending the time in a pointless circular fashion. Indeed, once the paperwork is filed for this prop and the repeal, absolutely nothing will have been gained for the former natives.

[Osnilic Asylum for the Mentally Insane]

You have my vote.

[Rellacrystal]

Read that first line
"Recalling the Congress of Armed Proletarian States (hereinafter "CAPS") as an region dedicated to fostering interregional cooperation among regions;"
"an region"?
I must vote against this because we cannot implement a law which has a spelling error.

Hahahahahaha! Awesome, dude

[Kaboomlandia]

Liberate Congress of Armed Proletarian States was passed 10,837 votes to 1,284.

[Misley]

Thanks all for your support.

See you again soon for the Repeal.

[Jakker]

I don't think I've ever seen a region with a founder be Liberated because seeing a Liberation badge while still passworded is freaky