[PROPOSAL] Commend United German Regions

[Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders]

RECOGNIZING United German Regions as founder of The Insane Region and current delegate and liberator of The Black Riders

NOTING that The Black Riders had occupied several small, helpless, and defenseless regions before April 27, 2015 when United German Regions successfully invaded the Black Riders with the help of several nations from The BRU (Black Riders Unit) Agency, a coalition of several regions, after the founder, Black Riders Commander, was deleted for illegal script usage

OBSERVING that United German Regions is working on a new, democratic constitution for the region, formerly feared by many small regions

ADMIRING that, with the help of several other regions, The Black Riders, formerly one of the most feared regions in NationStates was finally taken down

RECOGNIZING that United German Regions created a WA nation, UnitedGermanRegions to serve as delegate in The Black Riders while maintaining a presence in The Insane Region, itself a smaller region of about 60 nations

NOTING that United German Regions has led several smaller raids against TBR-occupied regions and successfully liberated them

AFFIRMING that United German Regions has worked tirelessly for several months to liberate TBR-occupied regions before finally overcoming the greatest challenge of all: raiding the Black Riders, the greatest coup d’etat since the liberation of Lazarus last week

HEREBY commends United German Regions

[Kaboomlandia]

Your "Admiring" clause seems a bit gloaty.

[Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders]

I changed it (but not too much)

[Polar Svalbard]

This resoultion is something ive wanted to see since 2011, it brings tears to my eyes and i think it is very good. The mods may think of it as a little gloaty though

[Kaboomlandia]

Was it necessary to submit this after a half-hour?

[Ramaeus]

Against. It's a tag-raid. This isn't worth the Security Council's time.

[Kaboomlandia]

Holy crap. This has 23 approvals in 11 minutes.

[Ramaeus]

Holy crap. This has 23 approvals in 11 minutes.

That's due to the nominee and someone else is campaigning for this proposal.

[Todd McCloud]

NOTING that The Black Riders had occupied several small, helpless, and defenseless regions before April 27, 2015 when United German Regions successfully invaded the Black Riders with the help of several nations from The BRU (Black Riders Unit) Agency, a coalition of several regions, after the founder, Black Riders Commander, was deleted for illegal script usage

Are we absolutely sure that "deleted for illegal script usage" is not a Rule 4 violation?

[Ramaeus]

NOTING that The Black Riders had occupied several small, helpless, and defenseless regions before April 27, 2015 when United German Regions successfully invaded the Black Riders with the help of several nations from The BRU (Black Riders Unit) Agency, a coalition of several regions, after the founder, Black Riders Commander, was deleted for illegal script usage

Are we absolutely sure that "deleted for illegal script usage" is not a Rule 4 violation?

I believe it would qualify. It's hard for a nation to get deleted in the real world.

[Kaboomlandia]

1. Nearly halfway there in 40 minutes. Even though you said they're campaigning, I'm still impressed.
2. Not sure. Personally, I used "unethical recruitment means".

[Todd McCloud]

Are we absolutely sure that "deleted for illegal script usage" is not a Rule 4 violation?

I believe it would qualify. It's hard for a nation to get deleted in the real world.

Aye. It's not in the rulings thread, but IMO it sounds awfully R4-ish. It'd be better if it was "ceased to exist after several violations" or something of that ilk.

[Main]

Gross. I mostly concern myself with running my region and occasionally screwing around on the forums, having unpopular opinions, and a bunch of other irrelevant stuff. I don't normally involve myself with R/D, as my region has an active founder. I just let it swirl around. In any case, and to get more to the point, I find this commendation appalling. TBR was easy to invade because few of the nation inside it are WA nations, since they have many puppets and they don't want to break the multi WA ban. Taking them over is an accomplishment no doubt, but we all know it is an extremely temporary one. Commendations are more permanent, even though they can and often are repealed. I strongly feel it would be a waste of time to commend a nation created solely for the purpose of invading TBR, especially since it will be repealed the moment that TBR kicks you out. In addition, if they don't reclaim it, they will just move to Nugut or make a whole new region. The offsite forum is still intact, all of the members are still intact, you've just stomped on the plant and didn't bother to rip out the roots. You can enjoy bragging to your friends, but don't force me to go along with it. It is entirely possible that this wall of text makes no sense, so my apologies if it doesn't.

[Kaboomlandia]

Gross. I mostly concern myself with running my region and occasionally screwing around on the forums, having unpopular opinions, and a bunch of other irrelevant stuff. I don't normally involve myself with R/D, as my region has an active founder. I just let it swirl around. In any case, and to get more to the point, I find this commendation appalling. TBR was easy to invade because few of the nation inside it are WA nations, since they have many puppets and they don't want to break the multi WA ban. Taking them over is an accomplishment no doubt, but we all know it is an extremely temporary one. Commendations are more permanent, even though they can and often are repealed. I strongly feel it would be a waste of time to commend a nation created solely for the purpose of invading TBR, especially since it will be repealed the moment that TBR kicks you out. In addition, if they don't reclaim it, they will just move to Nugut or make a whole new region. The offsite forum is still intact, all of the members are still intact, you've just stomped on the plant and didn't bother to rip out the roots. You can enjoy bragging to your friends, but don't force me to go along with it. It is entirely possible that this wall of text makes no sense, so my apologies if it doesn't.

UGR has over 130 endorsements. It'll be damn hard to kick them out.

[Ivo Mullur]

UGR has over 130 endorsements. It'll be damn hard to kick them out.

And it'll be damn hard for them to do anything else but tag-raid it.

[The Stalker]

UGR has over 130 endorsements. It'll be damn hard to kick them out.

And it'll be damn hard for them to do anything else but tag-raid it.

I don't know about that. TBR rarely kept WA in there, they don't have as much influence as people seem to think.

The dudes up to 140 in under a day. People seem to underestimate how hated TBR's are. Getting up to 200 endorsements and higher is a real possibility, we're talking GCR delegate level influence being gained.

While the resolution certainly doesn't meet the usual WA standard, I gotta tip my hat to the guy. He's the one who started The BRU Agency, I find it so rich he's the one that leads the charge to tear down the Black Rider's homeland.
BRU: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=335111

They all laughed at him, but he showed them, well done. Dude deserves some credit in my book.

[Malevolent Thomas]

While I admire the nation for his swift actions, lets at least wait for them to prove themselves competent at wrecking the region before we commend them.

[Xoriet]

There is a simple and sweet answer to this: No.

Raiding raiders doesn't make the target nation a hero any more than retagging regions makes them a showcase of Commend-worthy material. I may have no love for TBR as an organization, but there is nothing particularly outstanding about taking advantage of their founderlessness and piling in.

[Island Union]

Against.

Commendations historically feature multiple reasons to why a region/nation deserves it. This proposal focuses mainly on his efforts against TBR. If later on they do something else commendable then sure, lets debate it. But one reason shouldn't be the sole focus of an Commend proposal.

[We Are Not the NSA]

All I have to say in this matter is this: I do not mean to belittle UGR in any way; he has achieved a great success. However, at this time, the only reason to commend him is this one incident. While it is huge, this alone with a few minor detags, is hardly grounds for a commendation. My advise: UGR is about to become very popular, and is about to gain some more power in the R/D scene... Wait and see what he does with it. If he wields it honorably, add whatever he does next to a commendation, don't just rush it.

[Elke and Elba]

Commending the guy because he got a few hundred endos?

Nope. Just no.

If anything, the people commended should be the rest endoing, and not the guy sitting on the Endo pile.

[Mirevia]

Against until Revisement of Document. It was a team effort,Everyone should get credit.

[Elke and Elba]

Approved. But,everyone should get credit.

Precisely the case why this shouldn't be approved.

They are essentially thanking one person for garnering endos.

[Mirevia]

Approved. But,everyone should get credit.

Precisely the case why this shouldn't be approved.

They are essentially thanking one person for garnering endos.

Yeah,made the edit

[Sedgistan]

NOTING that The Black Riders had occupied several small, helpless, and defenseless regions before April 27, 2015 when United German Regions successfully invaded the Black Riders with the help of several nations from The BRU (Black Riders Unit) Agency, a coalition of several regions, after the founder, Black Riders Commander, was deleted for illegal script usage

Are we absolutely sure that "deleted for illegal script usage" is not a Rule 4 violation?

It is a Rule 4 violation, which is why CG just deleted the proposal.