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Condemn Stujenske (Draft)

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Condemn Stujenske (Draft)

Postby Norse German Federation » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:58 am

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Recognizes Stujenske as the WA Delegate of Lazarus, including many of their colleagues who support their cause,

Believing that regions of such mass should have free and open elections for its Delegacy, to be protected at all costs, and not to be repressed by a totalitarian state,

Identifies Stujenske as a dictatorial Delegate, having set strict regulations on the code of freedom of speech, suppressing speeches and ejecting/banning member nations (including natives) for expressing their concern against the current state of affairs of the Stujenske regime,

Noting that the current power figures within Stujenske's regime have used manipulative and deceptive tactics to come into power, furthermore, outlawing any further democratic election within its Delegacy,

Concerned that the Stujenske government has seized absolute reign over the region, stating that it was for the betterment of all, totally disregarding many member nation's wishes for a democratic process within the Lazarene Delegacy,

Terrified that the Stujenske government continues to use propaganda and suppression of any opposition in an attempt to brainwash the regional population and further reduce unrest over the lack of democratic freedoms,

Recognizing the democratic agenda we here at the World Assembly fight so hard to keep intact,

Aiming to warn member nations residing within Lazarus and nations around the world of the threat the WA Delegate, Stujenske, and his colleagues, pose to the democratic process within the Lazarene Delegacy,

Hoping to someday liberate Lazarus from the shackles of dictatorship,


Hereby Condemns Stujenske.

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Postby Norse German Federation » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:59 am

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The proposal was removed from the floor and I'm seeking to fix the errors I made.

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Postby Nephmir » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:21 am

Aiming to warn member nations residing within Lazarus and nations around the world of the threat the WA Delegate, Stujenske, and his colleagues, pose to the democratic process within the Lazarene Delegacy,


Underlined phrase is illegal. I'd recommend taking it out entirely though as it interrupts the flow of the sentence. Like so:

"Aiming to warn member nations residing within Lazarus and nations around the world of the threat the WA Delegate, Stujenske, poses to the democratic process within the Lazarene government,"


Not saying anything else about the rest of the proposal or its content, that's just the only illegal part I see.
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Postby Funkadelia » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:34 am

Identifies Stujenske as a dictatorial Delegate, having set strict regulations on the code of freedom of speech, suppressing speeches and ejecting/banning member nations (including natives) for expressing their concern against the current state of affairs of the Stujenske regime,

This never happened.

Noting that the current power figures within Stujenske's regime have used manipulative and deceptive tactics to come into power, furthermore, outlawing any further democratic election within its Delegacy,

No mention has been made of elections.

Terrified that the Stujenske government continues to use propaganda and suppression of any opposition in an attempt to brainwash the regional population and further reduce unrest over the lack of democratic freedoms,

What unrest?
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Postby Norse German Federation » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:19 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Identifies Stujenske as a dictatorial Delegate, having set strict regulations on the code of freedom of speech, suppressing speeches and ejecting/banning member nations (including natives) for expressing their concern against the current state of affairs of the Stujenske regime,

This never happened.

Noting that the current power figures within Stujenske's regime have used manipulative and deceptive tactics to come into power, furthermore, outlawing any further democratic election within its Delegacy,

No mention has been made of elections.

Terrified that the Stujenske government continues to use propaganda and suppression of any opposition in an attempt to brainwash the regional population and further reduce unrest over the lack of democratic freedoms,

What unrest?

You're his ally, of course your opinion on the matter is nothing but negative. It'd be illogical to even value your opinion.
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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:10 pm

HOOT HOOT all aboard the bandwagon!
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:49 pm

We're not democratic in Lazarus? Then I guess I just made up this part of Lazarene law for the hell of it:

Section 5, sub-section 3 of the Lazarene Constitution
The People's Congress' entire membership shall be replaced by the citizenry via a general election that occurs every three months. The elected membership of the People's Congress shall consist of elected Congressman, whom may be citizens and party members who are not Governors, the Vice-Chairman, or the Chairman.


Not to mention we only recently elected a new delegate. Everyone knows that.

Despite our socialist theme, we're quite democratic.

Also, this looks eerily similar to the Condemn Lazarus proposal. At the very least, have the common decency to not recycle something before it has become garbage. Frankly, if this is what you currently have, you'd be extremely lucky to even get it to vote. Get some facts if you want this thing to get through.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:05 pm

Cheese and Rice! Why are Lazarenes so popular in the SC these days? I should join the LLA just so I can get my Commend a few years premature :p
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Postby Funkadelia » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:47 pm

Norse German Federation wrote:-snippity snip-

This isn't even opinion, these are matters of fact. If you're going to lie, at least try to fudge the details a little bit :P
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Postby Pergamon » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:01 pm

Best draft I have ever seen seriously. It's full of facts and has nothing to do with fantasy storytelling.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:50 pm

You forgot the clause about Lazarus being Imperialist. :p
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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:14 am

Yeah, because we are SO imperialist, what with our defender army and FRA membership.

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Postby Toronina » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:30 am

lol k. Seriously though. He JUST became Delegate. Target someone else, maybe the Black Riders, at least they would appreciate it.

I swear people are just targeting Lazarus. We could make this like the Ice Bucket Challenge.
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Postby Toronina » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:31 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Cheese and Rice! Why are Lazarenes so popular in the SC these days? I should join the LLA just so I can get my Commend a few years premature :p

Because all of us are very beautiful people :P They just jelly.
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 am

Toronina wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Cheese and Rice! Why are Lazarenes so popular in the SC these days? I should join the LLA just so I can get my Commend a few years premature :p

Because all of us are very beautiful people :P They just jelly.


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Postby Pergamon » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:18 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Toronina wrote:Because all of us are very beautiful people :P They just jelly.


I read this comment while imagining the majestic horse-shark in your avatar saying it aloud.

Is it possible to laugh oneself to death? 'Cause I'mma do it.


I lol'd. This post was actually better than this draft man.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:41 pm

Norse German Federation wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:This never happened.


No mention has been made of elections.


What unrest?

You're his ally, of course your opinion on the matter is nothing but negative. It'd be illogical to even value your opinion.

So are you actually going to answer Funk's questions, or...?
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Postby Feux » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:17 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Cheese and Rice! Why are Lazarenes so popular in the SC these days? I should join the LLA just so I can get my Commend a few years premature :p


You should, seriously. Get over here BT. Send me a telegram, and get over here. :P

EDIT: I would contribute to the proposal; however, I find the majority of this content false, leaving very little to work with. I would encourage the author to go back and research some of the claims that are being made by the proposal and attempt to readdress the issue of condemning the nominee at a later time when there is more tangible material present.
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Postby Hobbesistan » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:54 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Cheese and Rice! Why are Lazarenes so popular in the SC these days? I should join the LLA just so I can get my Commend a few years premature :p

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Postby Pauline Bonaparte » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:37 pm

Norse German Federation wrote:You're his ally, of course your opinion on the matter is nothing but negative. It'd be illogical to even value your opinion.


Clearly the only opinions our learned colleague should value are ones agreeing with his/her own.

What has Stujenske even done in the last week he's been Chairman worth condemning? If the bar for condemns is set at "nothing" please submit your Condemn Pauline Bonaparte resolution forthwith, and be sure to include the phrase "sasspants".
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Postby Xoriet » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:28 pm

Just from a cursory glance, I can already see that this is a proposal with very little ground. It seems as if your main argument is that Lazarus isn't democratic enough, and Stujenske just happens to be the delegate and thus the default target. I'd go so far as to wager that anyone who had replaced Milograd would have been the target for this condemnation.

What purpose does this proposal really serve? Stujenske is certainly no worthier of a condemnation than Lazarus itself. What has he personally done to others to deserve a condemnation?
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Postby Yao » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:38 pm

Xoriet wrote:Just from a cursory glance, I can already see that this is a proposal with very little ground. It seems as if your main argument is that Lazarus isn't democratic enough, and Stujenske just happens to be the delegate and thus the default target. I'd go so far as to wager that anyone who had replaced Milograd would have been the target for this condemnation.

What purpose does this proposal really serve? Stujenske is certainly no worthier of a condemnation than Lazarus itself. What has he personally done to others to deserve a condemnation?

condemn Milograd!1!1!

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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:22 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Toronina wrote:Because all of us are very beautiful people :P They just jelly.


I read this comment while imagining the majestic horse-shark in your avatar saying it aloud.

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Thanks :lol: I still don't know how I found it
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